Vaccine

Can the forever jabbers just go live somewhere all together ?

I’ll give them NYC, DC, and LA
I'll give them more then that if they jab away from me. These people Pro-Jabbers are ill and I mean mentally ill. Full of fear and full of shit now. I understand fear and respect it and have lived in fear most of my life. The full of shit part is what has me and many others I know pissed off, People getting fired and all that. I have friends who are jabbed but not jab for life.
 
I'll give them more then that if they jab away from me. These people Pro-Jabbers are ill and I mean mentally ill. Full of fear and full of shit now. I understand fear and respect it and have lived in fear most of my life. The full of shit part is what has me and many others I know pissed off, People getting fired and all that. I have friends who are jabbed but not jab for life.

they could even have a super duper UBer ECNL league , really exclusive
 
I'll give them more then that if they jab away from me. These people Pro-Jabbers are ill and I mean mentally ill. Full of fear and full of shit now. I understand fear and respect it and have lived in fear most of my life. The full of shit part is what has me and many others I know pissed off, People getting fired and all that. I have friends who are jabbed but not jab for life.

the forever jabbers don’t want to interact with a non forever jabber, I understand it’s hard to come around to that , but it is what it is , gotta move on
 
This Dr. F is something else.......

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Is it safe to attend a holiday party DR If everyone at your party is vaccinated?

If you’re vaccinated and gathering with other vaccinated people, the answer is a simple “yes,” White House chief medical advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said in a briefing last week. Ideally, every guest should be boosted, too.


If anyone at your party is unvaccinated (or unwilling to share)

If anyone’s unvaccinated at your party — including small children who aren’t yet vaccine-eligible — or unwilling to share their vaccination status, your decision gets much harder. You’ll face a higher risk of getting sick or transmitting the virus to someone else, even if you’re fully vaccinated yourself. (?????)

If you’re hosting such a party ((shame on you)), you should rely on a combination of safety strategies, like gathering outdoors, wearing masks and maintaining social distance. ((That sounds like a stupid party. No thanks!!)) You can also ask your unvaccinated guests to quarantine ((Don't bother with the invite)) and get tested before the event ((Never)), as an additional layer of assurance. ((Dont waste your time Pro-Vax only))

The risk grows further if you’re in a “public congregate setting,” where you can’t realistically know who’s vaccinated, Fauci said last week. That could mean an office holiday party at an indoor bar where vaccination isn’t required, or even taking a crowded bus home.
In those situations, “it is very prudent to wear a mask,” Fauci said. “That’s what I do.”
You can briefly lower your mask to safely eat a cookie or drink some eggnog, but try to keep it on as much as possible.
 
Top line for the morning run down in the omicron news: cases so far have been relatively mild with very few hospitalizations. Symptoms tend to resemble a cold more than classic covid. The us does very little sequencing but already accounted for 16% of sequencing. Within 6-8 weeks from now it should be the dominant form globally. They still aren’t sure if the breakthrough rate on the vaccine or how much vaccinated people can spread it but both numbers appear to be shaping up to be high from a handful of superspreader events.

the problem we are now faced with is a casedemic. Cases are going to go through the roof. Everyone that’s out and about (including school children) will fall ill with it or be exposed. It means governments need to be effectively preparing for all schools and most large work sites (from construction to supermarkets to ports) to be shut down for a lack of workers if we are going to require people to quarantine. Hospitals may also be overwhelmed even if the severity is low because a small percentage of a huge number can still be large particularly if everyone falls ill at once. Bottom line: if things continue on track even if the governments don’t enact npis school, sports and many businesses and the supply lines are effectively going to be disrupted (how badly is anyone’s guess but it’s looking bad in early signs) as long as we are doing the testing/remove people for exposure, even if this is shaping up to be just a bad cold.
 
I heard a news report on the radio that a kid in lausd was vaccinated without his parents consent? Apparently was bribed with free pizza? Anyone have a link?
 
I heard a news report on the radio that a kid in lausd was vaccinated without his parents consent? Apparently was bribed with free pizza? Anyone have a link?
This is one I found with a Google search. I know nothing about the site.


I'm not even a little surprised if this is true. It's a power struggle and there are many incidents of public schools usurping parental/family power such as forcing PE on athletes who participate in sports outside of the school system and not accepting credits from UC-approved courses as pre-requisites (posted this a while ago). The power grab will continue as long as we allow it.
 
I heard a news report on the radio that a kid in lausd was vaccinated without his parents consent? Apparently was bribed with free pizza? Anyone have a link?

this happened in Maryland , vaccinated. Kid by mistake who had not gotten parental consent

totally normal, nothing to see here
 
Top line for the morning run down in the omicron news: cases so far have been relatively mild with very few hospitalizations. Symptoms tend to resemble a cold more than classic covid. The us does very little sequencing but already accounted for 16% of sequencing. Within 6-8 weeks from now it should be the dominant form globally. They still aren’t sure if the breakthrough rate on the vaccine or how much vaccinated people can spread it but both numbers appear to be shaping up to be high from a handful of superspreader events.

the problem we are now faced with is a casedemic. Cases are going to go through the roof. Everyone that’s out and about (including school children) will fall ill with it or be exposed. It means governments need to be effectively preparing for all schools and most large work sites (from construction to supermarkets to ports) to be shut down for a lack of workers if we are going to require people to quarantine. Hospitals may also be overwhelmed even if the severity is low because a small percentage of a huge number can still be large particularly if everyone falls ill at once. Bottom line: if things continue on track even if the governments don’t enact npis school, sports and many businesses and the supply lines are effectively going to be disrupted (how badly is anyone’s guess but it’s looking bad in early signs) as long as we are doing the testing/remove people for exposure, even if this is shaping up to be just a bad cold.
I'm hearing anecdotal information where individuals are getting what they think is a cold and the Dr. tells them that if they don't have a fever, don't bother getting tested and they find out later that they had Corona. I also have a feeling a lot of people had Corona with mild symptoms and never reported it and will get Corona with mild symptoms and not report it. What is the incentive to do so? The milder the symptoms, the less likely the virus will be identified through testing. Here's to hoping that this is a significant proportion of cases. It would mean the calculated severity using cases is overstated.
 
Bad policy causes "unintended" consequences.


With the holidays around the corner, Americans are experiencing inflated prices, goods shortages, and long shipping times. Right now would be the perfect time to simplify the transport of needed goods from the United States’s No. 1 trading partner: Canada. More than $300 billion in truck freight came into the U.S. from Canada in 2020, and the loss of any significant portion of this will further hike prices and cause more empty shelves. Canadian and international goods arrive through our border crossings, and the White House is imposing a stiff travel restriction for all residents entering the country. Not only do tourists and visitors need to show proof of vaccination, but so do truck drivers. The new regulation, taking effect on Jan. 22, will further ensnare the arrival of both raw materials and finished goods into the country.

Considering that more than half of the freight entering the U.S. from Canada comes via truck, the effects will be immediate. Approximately 20 percent of Canada’s truckers are unvaxxed.

 
This is one I found with a Google search. I know nothing about the site.


I'm not even a little surprised if this is true. It's a power struggle and there are many incidents of public schools usurping parental/family power such as forcing PE on athletes who participate in sports outside of the school system and not accepting credits from UC-approved courses as pre-requisites (posted this a while ago). The power grab will continue as long as we allow it.

I suspect it’s more of a bureaucratic failure than a deliberate power grab. Line the kids up, forms in the box, get your shot, get your pizza, next kid. The exceptions are more difficult, and someone screwed up. You probably had a couple lactose intolerant kids who got cheese, too.
 
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