"Society is at a breaking point"? Looks like you are panicking.
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"Society is at a breaking point"? Looks like you are panicking.
Desert Hound
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This goes to an issue I had for the first months to year of the whole thing. Blaming T for not stopping the virus. And a lot of people believed that.
The reality is no matter who is in charge it is going to spread. Just look at the various govs in W Europe to see this is the case.
It was a completely partisan charge made by a partisan press.
Everyone is going to get exposed to the virus at some point and time and likely multiple times.
Look how fast it spread initially. Look at how you see the new variant already popping up all over the world.
see Morgan stanley above.
i think large swaths of the country have moved on
now if they re-impose March and April 2020 type restrictions that could change , but people may largely ignore them
further to this....haven't read it all the way through yet, but it seems on point.... boo-yah.
p.s. they seem to be suggesting that one of the impacts of the masking might have been to frighten the older people into distancing.
JP Morgan is not Morgan Stanley.
like it. The problem is also illustrated in the cartoon: 'I don't want to get sick'. she thinks the masks is just fine protection so she approaches her friend to have a mask discussion. Classic. --^=
That picture isn’t at all realistic. How are you supposed to hide under your bed while wearing that?
Actually, most people around here don’t do any more than get their booster, wear a mask when indoors, and give people more room on the sidewalk.
Look closer. The characters are drawn smaller so he can show them standing 6 feet apart.
It’s from April, 2020. It has aged better than most things written back then.
At that time, you were trying to convince people that masks had a significant risk of infection from touching the outside.
No it hasn't:
a. I thought we had moved off of the entire masks protect me. Yet she clearly thinks they do
b. It's unclear if they are indoors or outdoors.
c. Is it 6 feet....Looks a little closer given their relative sizes?
d. O.k. arguendo 6 feet. She approaches him at 6 feet even though he's unmasked (doing a little gender assuming here) and then proceeds to discuss masks!
e. The 6 foot thing has also been shown to have no basis in science.
f. you like to mischaracterize opinions particularly in situations where you've lost. You'll recall I said masks help a little....probably most in indoor situations with short contacts (not long like at work or on a plane)...why I speculating on a bunch of reasons including lack of a seal, poor quality masks, viruses building on the surface when you cough or sneeze to later be dislodged, people touching their masks (particularly kids), people (particularly kids) not being able to wear them properly. Between the 2 of us, 1 of us (not you) was more right than the other, and the main flaw in my reasoning was we believed (from people like you and what you were saying) in the surface transmission of COVID.
what-happened
GOLD
We've become such a hysterical and weak society, reacting to every shadow around.
It's great for business though - Pharma will pivot to redesign and assure us in 30 days they'l have a new batch ready to go, apparently for a variant that isn't as harmful. Could it be more transmissble..sure, which isn't a bad thing if it's less harmful. Mutations in virus can be a good thing. Less lethal, easier to catch, easier to get over, quicker to immunity to this variant. But no, we'll freak out, crush business in other countries, and continue to not implement a better vaccination plan abroad. With that said, not too many people in SA andother places even want to be vaccinated. There's the rub.
Preprint out of the UK. If it holds it basically confirms what we've been discussing here: natural immunity wanes more slowly than vaccine immunity, there is substantial waning 6 months out on vaccine immunity without boosters.
When you say “Grace was accurate”, you are error checking against your own opinion.
Put another way, your opinion in April 2020 is an excellent predictor of your opinion in December 2021. This is unarguably true.
It is also equivalent to saying “I have learned almost nothing”.
Errr....."You have learned almost nothing"......spoken like a true pastor....even your Bangladesh study (where we started this today) agreed with me on cloth masks. Guess I was before my time. Boo-yah!
You have learned nothing. Reread the study.
The study does not come to any conclusion at all on cloth masks. But you think it agrees with you.
The study does come to a conclusion on surgical masks, and it disagrees with you. But this fact has yet to sink in.
The constancy of your thought patterns remains unparalleled. If I want to know your opinions on next year’s research, I can look at your posts from last year.
One of the criticism of the study (which BTW is true is standard operating procedure for such studies) is because it showed no statistically significance re cloth masks ----> their conclusion they can't make a ruling on cloth masks, but on surgicals (never mind the criticism ranging from small sample, small results, difference in protocols, that surgicals had no statistical significance under 50, and that they then extrapolated to saying it should work even better if more people masked without any evidence to such effect) it's a conclusion.
and the constancy of my thought pattern??? Please!....nothing holds up next to yours....it's faithfulness to the good book of Covidian. Otherwise, how else would seriously embrace such topsey turvey, and failing, logic? Otherwise, how do you embrace those beliefs despite the evidence that those beliefs are crumbling before you? Otherwise how do you reconcile the behavior in your own life (e.g., masks work but you wear the N95 in the supermarket)? But sure, keep thumping that good book.
san francisco....preparing to hunker down.
www.nytimes.com
For a City That Followed Covid Rules, Will Omicron Change the Playbook? (Published 2021)
San Francisco has endured mask mandates, vaccination requirements and lockdowns. Now with the first U.S. case of the Omicron variant, no one’s sure what comes next.
