Vaccine

Grace T. said:
Agree with a lot of the sentiment but here's what I think is different. If this is anything like a new delta quite a few things (the economy, the Biden administration, the mental health of a segment of society, parents with kids in closed schools, the vaccination strategy) are close to the end of their ropes. If this thing is just more of the same, I agree. If this thing is even something as bad as a "new delta" or delta-type wave, the health authorities will feel obligated to "do something" and that something causes a few wheels to go off the rails. That's what I think the markets are pricing in: the possibility that this is a delta or worse * the negative costs it will inflict.
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p.s. it's why also the markets seem to fluctuate whenever an authority figure comes on and reflects the possibility (Biden's no time to panic v. Fauci's be prepared v. the Moderna chief's this is scary comments). The guess as to the probability figure is moving.
 
Grace T. said:
p.s. it's why also the markets seem to fluctuate whenever an authority figure comes on and reflects the possibility (Biden's no time to panic v. Fauci's be prepared v. the Moderna chief's this is scary comments). The guess as to the probability figure is moving.
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The message is all over the place and that's why this is the biggest scam and heist ever. I called it, "Grab & Go" and t is calling it, "smash & grab." I'm sure we need more pain before the fence sitters wake up. The Military is the only way to fix this shit. We need to find the truth and then never let this ever happen again. I call upon God to help us and when I make that call, God answers :) Make that call and God help you too :)
 
watfly said:
Here is my "prediction". Covid and its variants will do what it does regardless of restrictions, cases will spike and then go down. The majority will go on with life. The media will continue to fear monger, left leaning politicians will continue to discriminate against children and the unvaccinated. The healthy and the young will continue to have very little risk from the virus. Some will continue to hide at home while others work to deliver their Amazon packages. This thread will average 15+ posts a day.

Not so much a prediction as much as just a continuation of the last two years. It ain't rocket science.
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Very preliminary but the following boosts (little joke) the more of the same theory:

-It's been in Europe for a few weeks now and gone undetected and no mass dropping dead

www.cbsnews.com

Omicron COVID variant was in Europe before South African scientists detected and flagged it to the world

Authorities in the Netherlands say testing has confirmed that COVID cases identified on November 19 and 23 were the new strain — days before researchers identified it.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

-I wouldn't trust the Pfizer data as far as I can throw it and it's a very small sample but it seems the vaccine holds up well, at least against severe disease.

 
A true Chemist
dad4 said:
Three months?

If CDC wanted you to take boosters every three months, they'd say so. CDC wants you to get your two shots and a single booster at 6 months.

Even if you wanted four boosters a year, they won't let you. It isn't approved.

Your "news" source is making stuff up.
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Instead of " typing " your own commentary, why don't you
cite sources to back up the CDC insanity.
You might even read it.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Ha! You didn't address any of my criticisms of their statement and what you did write is not at all what CNN stated. If they would have stated washing hands and wearing masks can be useful in reducing the transmission of viruses, I wouldn't have had an issue.

It's not news - it's advocacy and it is misleading. It's a statement of absolutes. How is this not presented as an "ironclad defense"? "No known mutation can make a virus evade precautions ...". It gives a false sense of security and wasn't true for the original COVID virus much less more transmissible mutations.

Maybe you are overly eager to put a stamp of approval on anything that encourages the wearing of masks - misleading or not. Not everyone is predisposed to unquestioningly trust people who are willing to manipulate them. You lose their trust with statements like that.
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I guess I just don’t expect advanced biology lessons from a news reporter. Is it likely that certain mutations make a virus more or less able to survive longer journeys from host to host? Maybe. Would that have an impact on mask effectiveness? Maybe. Do I expect that a news reporter would be able to answer either question? Heck no.

As soon as a reporter started telling me what mutations are and are not capable of, I took it all with a grain of salt.
 
watfly said:
Here is my "prediction". Covid and its variants will do what it does regardless of restrictions, cases will spike and then go down. The majority will go on with life. The media will continue to fear monger, left leaning politicians will continue to discriminate against children and the unvaccinated. The healthy and the young will continue to have very little risk from the virus. Some will continue to hide at home while others work to deliver their Amazon packages. This thread will average 15+ posts a day.

Not so much a prediction as much as just a continuation of the last two years. It ain't rocket science.
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Sounds about right. Put on your tinfoill hat and chew on this one: We'll continue to supress delivery of vaccines to Africa. They'll continue to spin off variants (likely less deadly but panic worthy). Pharma companies will come to the rescue with more vaccines and therapeutics. We'll carry this cycle for the foreseable future.
 
dad4 said:
I guess I just don’t expect advanced biology lessons from a news reporter. Is it likely that certain mutations make a virus more or less able to survive longer journeys from host to host? Maybe. Would that have an impact on mask effectiveness? Maybe. Do I expect that a news reporter would be able to answer either question? Heck no.

As soon as a reporter started telling me what mutations are and are not capable of, I took it all with a grain of salt.
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Advanced biology? How about simple unsupported statements. Notice there is no expert quote there. So, why did the reporting say it at all? They violated the first law of Dirty Harry, "A man's gotta know his limitations"
 
The Merck drug passes FDA advisory panel in a surprisingly close vote. 13-10. Chief concerns seem to be it's efficiency is much less than initially reported (only 30% in stopping hospitalizations) and might encourage further mutations.

The Pfizer drug seems to have fewer concerns (but I'm now somewhat skeptical of any data Pfizer now produces on anything).
 
Grace T. said:
The Merck drug passes FDA advisory panel in a surprisingly close vote. 13-10. Chief concerns seem to be it's efficiency is much less than initially reported (only 30% in stopping hospitalizations) and might encourage further mutations.

The Pfizer drug seems to have fewer concerns (but I'm now somewhat skeptical of any data Pfizer now produces on anything).
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The panel also recommended the Merck drug to be limited in use. 13-10 is very close. Also, some panel members wanted to specifically exclude pregnant women from popping the pills. Jabs yes, pills no. Interesting stuff.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Advanced biology? How about simple unsupported statements. Notice there is no expert quote there. So, why did the reporting say it at all? They violated the first law of Dirty Harry, "A man's gotta know his limitations"
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New reporting has exponentially more overblown statements these days. It has become orders of magnitude more difficult to get reporters to use precise language.
 
crush said:
Ok pal, whatever you say. What a fake this guy is.

www.bitchute.com

CNBC's Cuck Cramer Has This To Say To The Pure Bloods.....

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1. Biden's multiple mandates are in tatters in front of the courts already....what makes him think the President can just mandate it for everyone? I think the only one left fully in tact is the military one IIUC.
2. How exactly would the military make a difference? It goes in and drags people into their houses to get vaxxed?
3. If you think these soft vax mandates have gotten push back, wait til you involve the military.
4. Add kids to that...it will be fun.
5. If it doesn't work against the omicron, then what exactly is the point?
 
Grace T. said:
1. Biden's multiple mandates are in tatters in front of the courts already....what makes him think the President can just mandate it for everyone? I think the only one left fully in tact is the military one IIUC.
2. How exactly would the military make a difference? It goes in and drags people into their houses to get vaxxed?
3. If you think these soft vax mandates have gotten push back, wait til you involve the military.
4. Add kids to that...it will be fun.
5. If it doesn't work against the omicron, then what exactly is the point?
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Bad word warning. Cover your ears you fuckers!!! Crammer is calling for a war and wants to lock my ass up because I say "Never Mother Fucker will you or anyone force me or try and scare me into taking any jabs from Gates, Fauci & Epstein." That guy is desperate and sold his soul I bet. He makes zero sense and he's some financial wiz over at the news? What a joke he is!!!
 
dad4 said:
New reporting has exponentially more overblown statements these days. It has become orders of magnitude more difficult to get reporters to use precise language.
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Why stop at reporters. Besides, where do you think they are getting their info from. These days very little news is derived from journalism. Much of it is driven by calculated leakers to their favorite outlet that supports a specific agenda.
 
what-happened said:
The panel also recommended the Merck drug to be limited in use. 13-10 is very close. Also, some panel members wanted to specifically exclude pregnant women from popping the pills. Jabs yes, pills no. Interesting stuff.
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Read the reasons for the no votes.

The pill doesn't work very well. It can also cause birth defects.

The mechanism is troubling, too. It works by creating viral mutations. Mostly, that means the new viral copies are broken things that cannot reproduce. (Yay!) But you run the risk that one of the mutated copies is a new and improved version. (Boo!)

In all, I find viral mutanogen pills to be a scarier concept than an mRNA vaccine.
 
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