Hüsker Dü
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Oh I see your problem, comprehension. Where did I say I support mandates? Actually I said the opposite but that wouldn’t help you do whatever it is you are trying to do. Misrepresentation isn’t a valid debate tactic amongst the aware.
Vaccine
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And some of that has been aimed in my direction.
My bad, I assumed you were pro-mandate based on your rationalizations regarding mandates. I honestly have a hard time keeping up with you and Espola (although I still don't know Espola's opinion on mandate). I guess I shouldn't assume based on someone's rhetoric implying something in the alternative. I guess I missed your prior anti-mandate statements.
Not trying to do anything here. Glad to hear you are anti-mandate. Welcome to the pro-vax, anti-mandate club.
A critique of the CDC immunity study and why it conflicts with the Israeli
brownstone.org
A Review and Autopsy of Two COVID Immunity Studies ⋆ Brownstone Institute
I have never before seen such a large discrepancy between immunity studies that are supposed to answer the same question.
brownstone.org
MicPaPa
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Whiny little bitch.
Based on his wiki the founder of Brownstone is quite an interesting character. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_TuckerA critique of the CDC immunity study and why it conflicts with the Israeli
A Review and Autopsy of Two COVID Immunity Studies ⋆ Brownstone Institute
I have never before seen such a large discrepancy between immunity studies that are supposed to answer the same question.
These articles and studies go way over my head most of the time. We can argue about the degree of relative immunity that prior infection provides but it seems clear that it provides a level of immunity at least in the neighborhood of vaccinated immunity.
Bernie seems to have principles that he unflinchingly adheres to. Of course, I'd adhere to those principles too if I could make that kind of coin just working for the government without any apparent job skills.
Nope your were just fooled like me. Espola and Husker were simply playing "devil's advocate" and they did an incredibly compelling job. Oscar worthy stuff when you consider the lengths they went with the insults. Well played.
Great article!
Conclusions
Concerning the Covid recovered, there are two key public health issues. 1. Would the Covid recovered benefit from also being vaccinated? 2. Should there be vaccine passports and mandates that require them to be vaccinated in order to work and participate in society?
The CDC study did not address the first question, while the Israeli study showed a small but not statistically significant benefit in reducing symptomatic Covid disease. Future studies will hopefully shed more light on this issue.
Based on the solid evidence from the Israeli study, the Covid recovered have stronger and longer-lasting immunity against Covid disease than the vaccinated. Hence, there is no reason to prevent them from activities that are permitted to the vaccinated. In fact, it is discriminatory.
Many of the Covid recovered were exposed to the virus as essential workers during the height of the pandemic before vaccines were available. They kept the rest of society afloat, processing food, delivering goods, unloading ships, picking up garbage, policing the streets, maintaining the electricity network, putting out fires, and caring for the old and sick, to name a few.
They are now being fired and excluded despite having stronger immunity than the vaccinated work-from-home administrators that are firing them.
MicPaPa
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Pathetic! This is the ball game - and their unions have hung them out to dry, they're going to spark a real insurrection.
Hüsker Dü
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“insults”? Where? Making things up to accuse others of seems to be some kind of pattern in here.
Desert Hound
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Worth a read as we think about government response to covid.
www.newsmax.com
James Maughan: Sweden's Covid Success Ignored by Media
Sweden, in the final analysis, apparently was correct.
www.newsmax.com
Joe Blow from MSNBC ((more shit noise bull crap)) said that all first responders WHO refuse the Jab should be fired!! That guy is just like Husker and wants death. VA and NJ is making some noise too. Now that we have no more cheating in elections, America will be owned by the people, not some fat ass old farts who has been living off their families bloodline forever. The days of Cain are over!!!!
Woulda, coulda or shoulda. Welcome to the new life Husker, where we dont blame others for our lot in life. Get off your ass and live is the new way. Stop projecting your bullshit anymore and start living life you foolish one because you have been played more then anyone on here.
Not just Youngkin....the entire state swung heavily R....and not just Virginia but Republican wins in NJ, NY, Pennsylvania and texas....the exit polls show the main thing driving it was school closures. I also think the Ds are getting generally blamed for the poor state of the economy, that COVID hasn't gone away, and that Biden promised to unite us but we seem to be more divided than ever. I don't think Trump could have done a whole lot better....we can argue whether he would have done marginally better such as on the transportation, employment and Afghanistan issues, but they were always going to be issues that were baked in. Biden only has a few months left to turn this around before things get baked in for the midterms.
IIHC, San Francisco just mandated the vaccines for the youngers. If we do get even a moderate winter wave, the fight is going to be interested. LAUSD vaccine mandates for athletes also going into effect.
met61
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...I also heard a lot of people last night at the ballot boxes saying you leftists are full of shit...I agree.