Vaccine

One of the issues I encountered going to an elite college and elite law school is that many of the elite lived (don't know if it's true anymore) very sheltered lives up to that point (since they had to work so hard to get there...whether at sports, arts or academics). Common sense intelligence was very lacking (I suppose I was capable of noticing it because I was the worst offender and therefore it was impossible not to notice it when I fell on my face).

Book smarts are not the same as street smarts and common sense and people had a dearth of it in these institutions. Throw in a sheltered life and lack of real life experience from many of them and it's a recipe for disaster.
Grace T, this is excellent and honest. The Elitist man lacks basic street smarts and when out foxed by a street smart kind of guy, they cheat to win or will kill or start a war so they win. The secret society elitist groups that practice pure evil are the elitist that I dealt with. Their time is over thank God.
 

For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.

Please remember that I "tend to post facts". :p:p:p

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Grace T, this is excellent and honest. The Elitist man lacks basic street smarts and when out foxed by a street smart kind of guy, they cheat to win or will kill or start a war so they win. The secret society elitist groups that practice pure evil are the elitist that I dealt with. Their time is over thank God.

I was so naive when I was 20 I got scammed in a tax cab line scam my first time on my own (not in a group tour or with parents) in NYC.

I like to pride myself that I spent my 20s catching up rapidly (and under constant fire, landing flat on my face more often than not).
 
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I'm not claiming that they didn't also die of Covid.

My point is the same one that Met61 is making in that we should of put more effort and focus towards protecting the vulnerable, then locking down the healthy.
 
One of the issues I encountered going to an elite college and elite law school is that many of the elite lived (don't know if it's true anymore) very sheltered lives up to that point (since they had to work so hard to get there...whether at sports, arts or academics). Common sense intelligence was very lacking (I suppose I was capable of noticing it because I was the worst offender and therefore it was impossible not to notice it when I fell on my face).

Book smarts are not the same as street smarts and common sense and people had a dearth of it in these institutions. Throw in a sheltered life and lack of real life experience from many of them and it's a recipe for disaster.
...who are "Those Who Lack Wisdom" ?
 

For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.

Please remember that I "tend to post facts". :p:p:p
Que another REDDIT rant….
 
Of whom none would have died but for Covid. Glad you don't give a shit about people with co-morbidities. Let's just kill them all in support of your anti-vax/mask crusade, am I right? The general had it coming since he had blood cancer and was such a loser anyway according to fearless leader. Powell should have just stayed home so that the real patriots can parade around without masks or vaccines.

Speaking of patriots....

...now do those who died of AIDS...maybe call it: "The Fiddler Follies"
 
Dad's been preaching to the "vaccinated beyond herd immunity" choir for over a year. He needs to get a signboard - English on one side and Spanish on the other - go out into the high case neighborhoods and call out all those "assholes" who are not vaccinated and/or not wearing masks. Until then, he's just talking to make himself feel better.
Dad4 has come to the realization that you all want a nice room where you can tell each other how right you are. Someone needs to walk in and fart in that room occasionally, but that’s EOTL’s job.

We don’t even see the same data in the same event. You guys look at Colin Powell’s death and see a co-morbidity or a vaccine failure. I look at the same event and see a concrete example of why reducing community spread is important- some people have immune systems that don’t respond well to vaccines.
 
Dad4 has come to the realization that you all want a nice room where you can tell each other how right you are. Someone needs to walk in and fart in that room occasionally, but that’s EOTL’s job.

We don’t even see the same data in the same event. You guys look at Colin Powell’s death and see a co-morbidity or a vaccine failure. I look at the same event and see a concrete example of why reducing community spread is important- some people have immune systems that don’t respond well to vaccines.
...does the vaccine (age-old definition) do much of anything for community spread?

...or put differently, before mandating it and killing folk's jobs and livelihoods... shouldn't it do more for community spread?
 
Dad4 has come to the realization that you all want a nice room where you can tell each other how right you are. Someone needs to walk in and fart in that room occasionally, but that’s EOTL’s job.

We don’t even see the same data in the same event. You guys look at Colin Powell’s death and see a co-morbidity or a vaccine failure. I look at the same event and see a concrete example of why reducing community spread is important- some people have immune systems that don’t respond well to vaccines.

If the vaccines decline as much as in the study in the article I referenced, vaccine herd immunity is a fantasy. If anything, the only way we can get to herd immunity is by not engaging in NPIs that postpone things (but that's assuming natural immunity is long lasting against all variants, which we aren't sure about yet either), that means that you are being selfish by trying to avoid the virus (since it prolongs all this for all of us), but that means there's not much we can do for people like poor Colin Powell (though the sooner we get there we might spare another Colin Powell equivalent 2 years down the line).

Back in my div school hanging out days, there was this nice evangelical guy who would hang out with us all. He was very tolerant of our arguments (ranging from the shockingly out right atheist even though it was the div school) to my weird theory about religion being like prisms (they all scattered some portion of truth). Very much a literalist, though, who did his best to convince us the Bible is the spoken word of God, and that the world was some 4000 years old. Even humored me on a tour of the natural history museum, which he angrily pushed aside as propaganda. Some time around Easter he blew up at us at a gathering in the lounge, saying we were incorigible and we were all going to hell, even though we were all overwhelmingly welcoming of his point of view.

It's not our side of the table which is trying to censor dialogue...we aren't the ones pulling tweets or facebook posts...we aren't the ones telling people they should just shut up and do as they are told....we aren't the ones telling people they are fing morons or c words. When this started, remember it was those of us on team reality who were in the minority. We've always welcomed your point of view which has always been constructive (unlike the 3 trolls), and your critiques have sharpened our own.
 
Dad4 has come to the realization that you all want a nice room where you can tell each other how right you are. Someone needs to walk in and fart in that room occasionally, but that’s EOTL’s job.

We don’t even see the same data in the same event. You guys look at Colin Powell’s death and see a co-morbidity or a vaccine failure. I look at the same event and see a concrete example of why reducing community spread is important- some people have immune systems that don’t respond well to vaccines.

...or maybe it's as simple as @dad4 has painted himself into a corner and can't get out.
 
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