Vaccine

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I fear that mandating vaccines will have the unintended consequence of increasing vaccine hesitancy. As any parent or teacher knows, when you order people to do something, they are motivated to do the opposite. Some employees will submit fraudulent vaccine records. Others will simply refuse to get their shots, and dare employers to fire them. And countless state governments, employers and employees will go to court to halt this program.

Predicting childish behavior by the portion of the population that has already demonstrated it doesn't take much thought. The rest of it looks like it was an assignment to write a given viewpoint, paid by the word.


Reminder: The CDC/NIH/Fauci-backed pause of the J&J vaccine did more to invigorate vaccine hesitancy in the US than any other factor.


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The FDA's opinion on boosters should create another cliff dive
 
It seems to me that there maybe two parallel universes going on. In our community, as far as I can tell, everyone has moved on from Covid since they have been vaccinated. With the exception of schools (and airplanes), there is little to no mask wearing and people have resumed normal life. High school football games are packed, offices are back to in-person, restaurants are full, people are enjoying concerts, flights are oversold etc. Our local sushi place has at least a 1 hour wait on weekends and some weekdays. It's life as normal. Are there communities not like that? The media would have you believe that the unvaccinated are holding up life returning to normal (when the reality is that the fearful are holding off life returning to normal). I don't see it but maybe there are areas that are still that way. What is your community like?

Has is anyone else noticed that the narrative has changed from fear of Covid to fear of the unvaccinated?

The ANTI-IMMUNE SYSTEM MOVEMENT (AISM) has quite the religious following.

Been going to the gym since March and, unmasked for at least 3 months now. Had sit down lunch at Jersey Mikes in L.A. yesterday and the meat slicer is babbling from behind her mask when we we walk in where no masking sign is posted at the entrance. I ask her to speak clearly from behind her mask. Finally, she slips her mask down and says MissIZ and I have to wear mask. I ask if they have any and they reluctantly provide some for us. She goes, "you guys must not be from L.A.?". "Thank God" I answer. "We're from San Diego" miss IZ says. Wait for it. "We follow the Science" I say. We enjoyed our Subs on the indoor tables...maskless. The manager sets up tables outside the entrance as a subtle hint. WE actually thought about eating outside. But the parking spaces are about 6 ft across the walkway from us, facing us. Miss IZ goes "wanna go outside? I say, "Are you kidding me??? Some old lady jumps the curb because she thinks she's hitting the brakes and now we're an indirect covid kill?? No thanks!! I came to eat a sandwich, not be one.
 
Some people are always looking for excuses. trump is a standard bearer for them. They will deny him while expounding on ideas exclusive to him and his ilk. Interesting combination of denial and strict loyalty. “But he’s not president anymore! TRUMP 2024!”
Youre' babbling

… is from page 3 of Richard Epstein’s 2020 book, The Dubious Morality of Modern Administrative Law:
The key explanation for why such a high level of discretion is applied by courts [to the decisions of administrative agencies] is an uncritical belief that administrative agencies will act in the public interest and resist pleas for partisan outcomes. In all too many cases, that optimistic assumption is false.


DBx: Yep. Politicians – even those duly elected by majorities – never have the motivation (or the knowledge) of gods. Ditto for appointed administrative officials and all other government employees. The reason for why this reality escapes so many people escapes me.
 
The ANTI-IMMUNE SYSTEM MOVEMENT (AISM) has quite the religious following.

Been going to the gym since March and, unmasked for at least 3 months now. Had sit down lunch at Jersey Mikes in L.A. yesterday and the meat slicer is babbling from behind her mask when we we walk in where no masking sign is posted at the entrance. I ask her to speak clearly from behind her mask. Finally, she slips her mask down and says MissIZ and I have to wear mask. I ask if they have any and they reluctantly provide some for us. She goes, "you guys must not be from L.A.?". "Thank God" I answer. "We're from San Diego" miss IZ says. Wait for it. "We follow the Science" I say. We enjoyed our Subs on the indoor tables...maskless. The manager sets up tables outside the entrance as a subtle hint. WE actually thought about eating outside. But the parking spaces are about 6 ft across the walkway from us, facing us. Miss IZ goes "wanna go outside? I say, "Are you kidding me??? Some old lady jumps the curb because she thinks she's hitting the brakes and now we're an indirect covid kill?? No thanks!! I came to eat a sandwich, not be one.
That was a risky move bro. Food servers can put green boogers in da food if you talk too much smack or make political statement. I took my outlaws out for some killer Mexican food up in Claremont yesterday, which is out in the IE. Miss Crush was shocked that 99% of EVERYONE had a mask on everywhere. I did notice that the obese were 100% wearing a mask and had fear all over the eyes. Outlaws put the mask but not us. We walk in and no one said a word to my wife and I. We ate our happy meal and no one gave us dirty looks. Basically, it was like we were foreigners and we were stared at but not given the mad dog look down I used to get when I lived in East LA for a year. In fact, I think people liked us for bringing a light of love and confidence to the place. Kind of like a "it's ok everyone, we got played!" We look really happy & in love together and grandpa thanked me for taking care of his oldest dd the last 24+ years and producing a stud DS and a beautiful and tough as nails DD. He loves me but is rough me sometimes. He talks Guatemala smack most of the time and some Che and tells me like it is and I tell him like it is. My mother in law has the best heart and is pure as they come. She doesn;t think she took the jabbs and we dont say anything.
 
Just a reminder for those who seem to forget.

"scientists now believe those infected by the Delta variant can still harbour similar levels of virus to those who are unvaccinated."


The above negates the stated reason for vaxx passports, etc by the way.

Right now with the delta and the vaxx is that the vaxxed will spread the virus for a bit shorter period of time vs the unvaxxed.

Either way this is why the virus will continue to spread. Everyone still spreads it vaxxed of unvaxxed. The vax religious amongst us continue to believe other wise. That is why they keep saying it is the fault of the unvaxxed we are still in this situation.

Reality is...this is going to be endemic.
 
This should go in the good news section. Resist.

Resist maybe, but I also think its a function of common sense and survival.
 
I'm assuming those can be rapid tests and not PCR? If that's the case, it's not super bad as those suckers are easy to do. Problem will be who's going to pay for them.

What's also weird is the 10-14 day period. Delta is a much faster moving virus. In 3-5 days you should know if you have it. Our schools sit around 7 days with a negative (rapid) on the 5th day. I thought this was extreme, but now looking at your situation it's looking like a cake walk. Wonder if it's due to our high vax rates.
Schools pay for the tests. I'll have to ask my colleague what kind of test her soon took.
 
Just a reminder for those who seem to forget.

"scientists now believe those infected by the Delta variant can still harbour similar levels of virus to those who are unvaccinated."


The above negates the stated reason for vaxx passports, etc by the way.

Right now with the delta and the vaxx is that the vaxxed will spread the virus for a bit shorter period of time vs the unvaxxed.

Either way this is why the virus will continue to spread. Everyone still spreads it vaxxed of unvaxxed. The vax religious amongst us continue to believe other wise. That is why they keep saying it is the fault of the unvaxxed we are still in this situation.

Reality is...this is going to be endemic.
This is a religious cult were dealing with Hound. Ran into old liberal pal of mine and he's a mess and is not so confident like he used to be when his side had all the power & control buttons. He and I both know the truth. He hates to hear it but yesterday was the first day he actually acknowledged that I was right and he was wrong about the last 5 some years. 5 year social war with this fool and he finally see's what I see. He is now eating Crow & Humble Pie. Another guy I used to tangle with just moved to Mexico.

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Just a reminder for those who seem to forget.

"scientists now believe those infected by the Delta variant can still harbour similar levels of virus to those who are unvaccinated."


The above negates the stated reason for vaxx passports, etc by the way.

Right now with the delta and the vaxx is that the vaxxed will spread the virus for a bit shorter period of time vs the unvaxxed.

Either way this is why the virus will continue to spread. Everyone still spreads it vaxxed of unvaxxed. The vax religious amongst us continue to believe other wise. That is why they keep saying it is the fault of the unvaxxed we are still in this situation.

Reality is...this is going to be endemic.
Any wonder that cases have more than doubled while IFR’s have decreased?
 
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