Vaccine

EvilGoalie 21 said:
Yep. Them's the dudes I'm talking about. Hobbes like Shrek 2 "You have free will, what you lack is the capacity to use it". Calvin like "Well same difference as God's will/fate then. Except all the screw ups get to be my fault. Damn it that makes me mad". Since you were a debater, here might be an interesting debate. Position 1. Organized sport is the antithesis of Calvinball. Position 2. Organized sport is the same as Calvinball. My son tried debate when he was in 7th grade. Did it exactly once. It was something of an epic fail. Not that he froze up. He just sort of derailed the thing. On the drive home I'm like little dude this is just like soccer. It's a competition, there are rules. But no, he went total Calvinball. And I could tell deep down inside that he was pleased with himself. Haven't thought about that in awhile.
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Competitive debate, unlike Calvinball, has rules. Back in my old-timey days, each club would prepare an argument for and an argument against a particular proposition (my first season it was "Should Congress pass the Medicare Bill?") and they wouldn't know which side they were arguing until the beginning of debate, when that would be decided by coin flip.
 
espola said:
Competitive debate, unlike Calvinball, has rules. Back in my old-timey days, each club would prepare an argument for and an argument against a particular proposition (my first season it was "Should Congress pass the Medicare Bill?") and they wouldn't know which side they were arguing until the beginning of debate, when that would be decided by coin flip.
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You sir are the biggest quitter on these boards. In fact, I have never ignored anyone and never will. Bring it on loser.......Big baby and cheater Espola is and ignore only those who kick his ass on SM debate skills. "I will super ignore you now." You suck at debate big cheater :(
 
espola said:
Competitive debate, unlike Calvinball, has rules. Back in my old-timey days, each club would prepare an argument for and an argument against a particular proposition (my first season it was "Should Congress pass the Medicare Bill?") and they wouldn't know which side they were arguing until the beginning of debate, when that would be decided by coin flip.
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Again you don’t understand. Calvinball has two (really 3) unbreakable rules.
 
Kicker4Life said:
According to Statista:

2018/19 Flu Season - 477 kids 0-17 died of the Flu

1/20 -9/15/21 - 436 kids 0-17 died with Covid
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You aren’t going to be dads favorite person anymore. Even taking your figures, even disregarding it’s been shown the covid kid death count is somewhat inflated, you took 2 years of covid and counted it against 1 season of flu. You may as well count deaths from inception.
 
Grace T. said:
You aren’t going to be dads favorite person anymore. Even taking your figures, even disregarding it’s been shown the covid kid death count is somewhat inflated, you took 2 years of covid and counted it against 1 season of flu. You may as well count deaths from inception.
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It’s all I could find quickly. Digging deeper isn’t going to change the numbers to Fauci’s favor.
 
Kicker4Life said:
It’s all I could find quickly. Digging deeper isn’t going to change the numbers to Fauci’s favor.
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This so called Doc is a fraud bro, just like some of the Docs some of us parents had to deal with in soccer. When people lie and life is on the line, that really is a bad a lie. The Doc who lied to my dd and me was bad but not like this bad Doc WHO lies every time he opens his mouth. This guy fooled even the smartest on this forum.
 
Grace T. said:
We have vaccinated the adults. The question now is whether we force the refusers to for their own good.

There's also a portion of the adults who (depending on the definition of "need") may not need vaccination because either: a) they've had it already, or b) they are young enough that their risk is negligible.

Then finally there's the separate question of whether we (the responsible ones that have been vaccinated, are very young, or have had it) need to wait for the irresponsible ones to "open up". Hint: the answer is no. The only conceivable rational is because some portion of the population (the vaccinated very old in which immunity does not take hold, the immunocompromised) is still vulnerable and then we'd need to know how many and what the off ramp is (an offramp which BTW you haven't been able to articulate).
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We vaccinated 2/3 of our adults.

That isn't the same thing as "we vaccinated the adults".

Kind of like my kid saying "I set the table". Then you look and see three plates and one napkin.
 
dad4 said:
We vaccinated 2/3 of our adults.

That isn't the same thing as "we vaccinated the adults".

Kind of like my kid saying "I set the table". Then you look and see three plates and one napkin.
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I find it kind of interesting you chose a parent-kid dynamic to describe it. Reeks of paternalism.

A more proper analogy would be that if high school kids want to have lunch, they need to be in line at the cafeteria by noon. If you aren't in line by noon, you bear the consequences and don't eat. Everyone who wants lunch at this point has been offered it. No one is dragging the kids kicking and screaming to have lunch, no one is telling them they will be expelled if they don't have lunch, no one is holding their hand if they fall asleep in algebra class after lunch, and no one is checking before they run afternoon pe if they had lunch in order to avoiding having them faint.

Note also a chunk of the 1/3 already has natural immunity. By the CDC's own estimate, among blood donor eligible ages, it's in the mid 80s
 
Grace T. said:
I find it kind of interesting you chose a parent-kid dynamic to describe it. Reeks of paternalism.

A more proper analogy would be that if high school kids want to have lunch, they need to be in line at the cafeteria by noon. If you aren't in line by noon, you bear the consequences and don't eat. Everyone who wants lunch at this point has been offered it. No one is dragging the kids kicking and screaming to have lunch, no one is telling them they will be expelled if they don't have lunch, no one is holding their hand if they fall asleep in algebra class after lunch, and no one is checking before they run afternoon pe if they had lunch in order to avoiding having them faint.

Note also a chunk of the 1/3 already has natural immunity. By the CDC's own estimate, among blood donor eligible ages, it's in the mid 80s
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And you're still wrong.

Why do you do this, day after day?
 
Ron DeS of Florida continues to live in Fantasy Land as he appoints a new Surgeon General who advocates the hydroxychloroquine cure.
 
Grace T. said:
I find it kind of interesting you chose a parent-kid dynamic to describe it. Reeks of paternalism.

A more proper analogy would be that if high school kids want to have lunch, they need to be in line at the cafeteria by noon. If you aren't in line by noon, you bear the consequences and don't eat. Everyone who wants lunch at this point has been offered it. No one is dragging the kids kicking and screaming to have lunch, no one is telling them they will be expelled if they don't have lunch, no one is holding their hand if they fall asleep in algebra class after lunch, and no one is checking before they run afternoon pe if they had lunch in order to avoiding having them faint.

Note also a chunk of the 1/3 already has natural immunity. By the CDC's own estimate, among blood donor eligible ages, it's in the mid 80s
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Of course I had to use a child for the example. Your statement was premature in a childlike fashion.

It is not adult behavior to claim to have finished something which you have not actually finished.
 
dad4 said:
Of course I had to use a child for the example. Your statement was premature in a childlike fashion.

It is not adult behavior to claim to have finished something which you have not actually finished.
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Your authoritarianism is leaking again….the task was offering a vaccine to anyone who wanted one

do you bend over this much for your students? Give them as if they didn’t study, give them a nap and your notes if they are too tired for class, let them rest under a tree if they are out of condition during pe, give them extra time if the dog eats their homework, pat them on the head if they are late for school?
 
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