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whatithink said:
How long before Trump gets pissed off that Musk is sucking all the attention in the "room" and basically running Congress through threats of primaries .. backed up by an essentially unlimited war chest that literally nobody can compete with and amplified by owning X?

Can't see it ending well myself, but I am stocking up on popcorn - are we not entertained!
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If that's what it takes to motivate Trump and make him do his job, so be it.

It can't be any worse than the shit show we've had the last 4 years.
 
whatithink said:
Well I've never watched The View, and never likely will. I don't particularly use X either, but apparently its a big thing. I'm all for cutting waste though and the deficit along with it. I will not hold my breath on either mind.
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Do you remember Trump trying to make cuts the last time and the dems fighting him every single time? I do. Then they sat back and cried about how he added to the deficit.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
This is what a real leader sounds like...

"What are you going to do when the other guy goes out there bragging about accomplishments under you?" Ben Meiselas of MeidasTouch asked in a new interview.

"The Medicare $2,000 cap, its going to kick in in 2025. He’s going to be out there saying, 'I did this.' How’s that going to make you feel when that happens?" he asked.

"Look: I’ve invested more in red states than in blue states with all these programs we just talked about," said Biden. "The reason for that was that the red states didn’t operate very well, and they really hurt their constituents so those factories closed and the like."

"The fact is that I represent all of America, not just Democrats," the president continued. "And I think what it’s going to do is bring the country more together than separate it."

"And for example, you already have folks like Marjorie Taylor Greene and others saying, 'Don’t eliminate the factory,' after talking about how the proposal to build it was the worst idea anybody’s ever had," Biden continued. "She didn’t vote for it."

"So I think there’s going to be a bit of a comeuppance here but the bottom line is I'm convinced that over time the American public will respond to what is the intention of the party to try to help ordinary people," he went on.

"And the fundamental change I made — and I made a speech at Brookings Institution about it recently — was on the economy," said Biden.

"The fact is that we had a long time this idea of trickledown economics," he said. "Let the wealthy do very, very well. They'll have so much money it'll trickle down on people's kitchen tables and coffee tables and the like and everyone will benefit. I never bought that theory!"

"And so what I've decided to do is to change it to build the economy from the middle out and the bottom up," explained Biden. "The wealthy still do very well but the middle class and the working class people do much, much better.

"And that's exactly what's happening and so I think the long term prospects for the country are very good," he added.

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Are you pretending Biden was a leader?
 
whatithink said:
How is Corporate cash a strawman? That table represents $1T of unproductive capital held by only 20 companies. Laws can be crafted to include and help SMBs only - zero chance of that though for obvious reasons.

I said Johnson got played. You can't blame the Dems for Johnson's failures, that's just silly.

I've laid out my thoughts on Biden previously. The narrative was that Obama had crushed the GOP for a generation in 2008, it lasted 2 years.

The GOP has 18 months before electioneering in earnest for the midterms, that's not a lot of time and expectations have been set sky-high
- food prices will go down to 2020 levels!
- inflation will go down
- economy will be awesome
- deficit will be under control / going to cut govt spending
- border under control

No excuses with a GOP trifecta, and I'm fine with it, but you break it, you own it; irrespective of party.
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So Biden owns inflation, immigration and the foreign policy disasters. See the double standard?

Obama would be a moderate compared to today's Democrat Progressive party, other than his tendency to promote racial division. The progressive narrative is getting crushed, its not coming back, at least not on a national basis. "Moderate" Dem's may make some inroads in the mid-terms, that's traditionally what happens, but they will have to stop the finger pointing and the continual denial. The general public saw right through the denial of the last 4 years in November. But hey, my crystal ball isn't any clearer than yours.

No doubt that Trump will break things, hopefully, its the things that need to be broken. Yes, Trump has to perform. My point is he is coming in with incredible momentum and a great win streak, lets see if he can keep it going.
 
watfly said:
So Biden owns inflation, immigration and the foreign policy disasters. See the double standard?

Obama would be a moderate compared to today's Democrat Progressive party, other than his tendency to promote racial division. The progressive narrative is getting crushed, its not coming back, at least not on a national basis. "Moderate" Dem's may make some inroads in the mid-terms, that's traditionally what happens, but they will have to stop the finger pointing and the continual denial. The general public saw right through the denial of the last 4 years in November. But hey, my crystal ball isn't any clearer than yours.

No doubt that Trump will break things, hopefully, its the things that need to be broken. Yes, Trump has to perform. My point is he is coming in with incredible momentum and a great win streak, lets see if he can keep it going.
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Biden does own those, I never said he doesn't - I even listed more on some thread on here fwiw.

The GOP won in Nov. That's the win streak, one election. Let's see what they can do.
 
Slobodan said:
Do you remember Trump trying to make cuts the last time and the dems fighting him every single time? I do. Then they sat back and cried about how he added to the deficit.
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I'm a deficit hawk, an absolute fiscal conservative - so I hate them both equally for the $36T in debt we now have that we don't need to have (at that level).
 
watfly said:
Yes, Trump has to perform. My point is he is coming in with incredible momentum and a great win streak, lets see if he can keep it going.
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It's the Trump Train bro. President Trump is on a historic win streak, and I don't see him losing ever again. With that said, crush is also winning. Granted my wins are smaller than Trumps, but I'm still a winner and not a loser like espola and Husker Du.
 
Slobodan said:
Do you remember Trump trying to make cuts the last time and the dems fighting him every single time? I do. Then they sat back and cried about how he added to the deficit.
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I'm assuming this was in the 2nd half of his term. Why didn't he do it in the first half, when the GOP controlled the trifecta? Funny that you are saying that Nancy Pelosi owned Trump for 2 years of his first term! I guess he'll go all out to max the cuts in the next two years then, having learned his lesson - I genuinely look forward to it.

I do wonder why he is looking for the debt limit to be increased though, seems odd to me 🤔 .
 
whatithink said:
It was a House bill, which is controlled by the GOP, so they get to own this, no?
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Yes, their leadership absolutely owns it - some of whom I’m not a fan of. But, they don’t whine with hilarious lack of self-awareness as the libs do. This looks better. I’ll also note that this seems like the type of work Trump hired Musk and Ramaswamy to do.

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watfly said:
One thing I notice about the liberals on here, is they're very concerned about what could happen and give very little care for what did happen. I guess its just hyper-partisanship.
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I'm still waiting for you to eat crow bro. Don't try and be a conservative now. Kevin and Mike are a complete joke. Obviously, you support the way of the wind from your fence. Monday Quarterback you.

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