How much of that is a result of the lockdowns? Suicides, Domestic Violence, People scared of going to emergency rooms because theyre scared of getting COVID, etc.Deaths from all causes is up 3% this year through today compared to the expected deaths (average of the last three years adjusted for population growth).
And ironically California might be too big to compare to those two "entire" countries. It has 19% more land mass than Germany and its population is 700% that of the tiny city-state of Singapore.
So COVID is less dangerous than the Flu for kids even with the flu vaccine. Got it. Thanks.
Even with kids receiving flu vaccine shots, they are effected exponentially more by the flu virus then the Covid virus. ALL DATA points show kids are fine to play.
It does seem there is a decline but we don't know by how much yet looking at the CDC data because there is a significant reporting lag. As the footnote on the CDC Provisional Death Count page says: "Previous analyses of 2015–2016 provisional data completeness have found that completeness is lower in the first few weeks following the date of death (<25%), and then increases over time such that data are generally at least 75% complete within 8 weeks of when the death occurred." See https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm. On top of this reporting delay it's at least 2-8 weeks from infection to death. So it could be a while before we can judge the true impact of these new outbreaks.You should also look at deaths by week in the US and note how despite states opening up, more testing positive...deaths have plummeted.
The week of 4/18 the US had 16300 deaths
The week of 6/13 the US had 1260 deaths
Are you denying the flu kills children under 17 (Even though we have a flu vaccine) while there are 0 COVID deaths for kids under 17 in california?
They do project a "final" number of deaths up to the current full week based on adjusting real data for expected growth due to future reporting. Here it is for the US. Same things apply as stated for my previous post regarding CA. Both this and the CA graph support that deaths have been falling significantly from the peak.
No reason to be a broken record, please do your own research. Where's your data that shows the flu is less deadlier than Covid?I have plenty of data. Don't rely on data posted here, take the time and effort to come to your own conclusions. It's easy to ask questions and play devil's advocate. When Data shows that there is a zero percent chance my kid will die from the Covid virus, I am very comfortable for my kid to play, bottom line.
| Symptomatic Illnesses | Medical Visits | Hospitalizations | Deaths | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Age group | Estimate | 95% UI | Estimate | 95% UI | Estimate | 95% UI | Estimate | 95%UI |
| 0-4 yrs | 3,633,104 | (2,506,551, 7,199,330) | 2,434,180 | (1,667,892, 4,820,252) | 25,328 | (17,475, 50,191) | 266 | (85, 713) |
| 5-17 yrs | 7,663,310 | (6,027,982, 10,438,419) | 3,984,921 | (3,067,414, 5,415,715) | 21,012 | (16,528, 28,621) | 211 | (38, 640) |
COVID Data Tracker Weekly Review
The week’s key data, narrative interpretations, & visualizations.www.cdc.gov
Estimated Flu-Related Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2018–2019 Flu Season | CDC
CDC calculates estimates of disease burden in the United States using surveillance data and modeling to adjust for sources of under-detection. Burden estimates for the 2018-2019 season found here.
Symptomatic Illnesses Medical Visits Hospitalizations Deaths Age group Estimate 95% UI Estimate 95% UI Estimate 95% UI Estimate 95%UI 0-4 yrs 3,633,104 (2,506,551, 7,199,330) 2,434,180 (1,667,892, 4,820,252) 25,328 (17,475, 50,191) 266 (85, 713) 5-17 yrs 7,663,310 (6,027,982, 10,438,419) 3,984,921 (3,067,414, 5,415,715) 21,012 (16,528, 28,621) 211 (38, 640)
Estimated Flu-Related Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2018–2019 Flu Season | CDC
CDC calculates estimates of disease burden in the United States using surveillance data and modeling to adjust for sources of under-detection. Burden estimates for the 2018-2019 season found here.
Symptomatic Illnesses Medical Visits Hospitalizations Deaths Age group Estimate 95% UI Estimate 95% UI Estimate 95% UI Estimate 95%UI 0-4 yrs 3,633,104 (2,506,551, 7,199,330) 2,434,180 (1,667,892, 4,820,252) 25,328 (17,475, 50,191) 266 (85, 713) 5-17 yrs 7,663,310 (6,027,982, 10,438,419) 3,984,921 (3,067,414, 5,415,715) 21,012 (16,528, 28,621) 211 (38, 640)
No problem
you can look at the other years, its on the same website. Then you can compare it to all covid deaths at under 17 years of age in the U.S.
I should have looked closer. The last week is the week ending June 6th. So, they appear to wait a full two weeks before trying to report anything. I would expect them to be able to project pretty accurately at this point given that much runway. The week ending June 6th is actually just under the 95% CI bar (same with CA).
