But this is part of the problem. The reps and experts are now 1) playing favorites (protests o.k. but worship outside is limited, theatres where people won't wear masks because they are eating and what's worse have airconditioning v. youth sports which are played outside), and 2) going for the low hanging fruit (people won't riot because their kids can't play youth sports...kids don't vote so keep the schools closed....but shut down a riot that's hard and will make us look bad).
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But this is part of the problem. The reps and experts are now 1) playing favorites (protests o.k. but worship outside is limited, theatres where people won't wear masks because they are eating and what's worse have airconditioning v. youth sports which are played outside), and 2) going for the low hanging fruit (people won't riot because their kids can't play youth sports...kids don't vote so keep the schools closed....but shut down a riot that's hard and will make us look bad).
Looking past the headlines for San Diego County:
Total hospitalizations as a percentage of population: 0.05% (5 one hundredths of a percent)
Total deaths as a percentage of population: .01% (1 one hundredths of a percent)
Current hospital beds in use is the 2nd lowest its been since the beginning of April
7 day running average of daily hospitalizations is down 44% from its peak (25 vs 14)
7 day running average of deaths is down 56% from its peak (5.86 vs 2.57)
0-19 age deaths: 0 SD County and California
0-19 hospitalizations as a percentage of total hospitalizations: 2.1% (despite the fact they represent 25% of SD population)
Yes, the positive tests are up which is due to a variety of reasons, more testing, mass protests, additional reopenings. This result is to be expected, but is much less serious from a health and welfare (obviously economic too) than keeping things closed down.
There is zero scientific or common sense basis for preventing kids (the least vulnerable by a long shot) from playing sports. If tattoo parlors and nail salons can open (as well they should), its absurd not to allow kids to resume sports. If you don't think were getting played, you're either not paying attention or you defer to our government to regulate your non-criminal personal behaviors. (However, please wear a mask as you resume activity out of respect for others until the hysteria subsides). If your not comfortable having your child play soccer, then don't...more power to you. The country was founded on freedom of choice.
Total hospitalizations as a percentage of population: 0.05% (5 one hundredths of a percent)
Total deaths as a percentage of population: .01% (1 one hundredths of a percent)
Current hospital beds in use is the 2nd lowest its been since the beginning of April
7 day running average of daily hospitalizations is down 44% from its peak (25 vs 14)
7 day running average of deaths is down 56% from its peak (5.86 vs 2.57)
0-19 age deaths: 0 SD County and California
0-19 hospitalizations as a percentage of total hospitalizations: 2.1% (despite the fact they represent 25% of SD population)
Yes, the positive tests are up which is due to a variety of reasons, more testing, mass protests, additional reopenings. This result is to be expected, but is much less serious from a health and welfare (obviously economic too) than keeping things closed down.
There is zero scientific or common sense basis for preventing kids (the least vulnerable by a long shot) from playing sports. If tattoo parlors and nail salons can open (as well they should), its absurd not to allow kids to resume sports. If you don't think were getting played, you're either not paying attention or you defer to our government to regulate your non-criminal personal behaviors. (However, please wear a mask as you resume activity out of respect for others until the hysteria subsides). If your not comfortable having your child play soccer, then don't...more power to you. The country was founded on freedom of choice.
Haven’t your experts told us that they have found that A Symptomatic cases aren’t communicating the virus?
Zero?
Desert Hound
DA
Pretty much zero. The risk to them is LESS than the FLU, and we don't shut down kids from playing sports during the flu season. And when a kid gets the flu on the team....the team continues on with practice etc.
And since kids based on what we know now do not seem to be spreaders of the covid...what exactly is the concern about youth sports exactly?
Deaths from all causes is up 3% this year through today compared to the expected deaths (average of the last three years adjusted for population growth).
Is 3% pretty much close to zero?
Do you have some source for your claim that kids do not seem to be spreaders of the covid?
MicPaPa
GOLD
Then stay home on your knees.Deaths from all causes is up 3% this year through today compared to the expected deaths (average of the last three years adjusted for population growth).
Fair point. I meant to say there is zero scientific or commons sense basis for youth sports not being allowed at this point. No evidence of youth sports being a greater risk than activities that have been allowed like mass protests, nail salons, in person dining. In fact, there is substantial evidence that youth sports are significantly less risky than most activities that have been allowed.
It appears that you have no issue with the statistics.
While your data is accurate on current stats, there is a lag time for hospitalizations and deaths. The recent spikes this week in San Diego will have a two to three week lag time. That's what I'm keeping my eye on.
It's true that kids are low risk, but it's the spreading to others which is the concern.
I do agree that it makes no sense why certain entities are open, and others are not.
What substantial evidence are you referring to?
MicPaPa
GOLD
SOURCE: Gov't Officials, "Experts" and you quiet as a church mouse during weeks of massive at protests.
Desert Hound
DA
From the CDC:
For children (0-17 years), cumulative COVID-19 hospitalization rates are much lower than cumulative influenza hospitalization rates at comparable time points* during recent influenza seasons.
For children (0-17 years), cumulative COVID-19 hospitalization rates are much lower than cumulative influenza hospitalization rates at comparable time points* during recent influenza seasons.
Florida and Georgia, with their early opening policies, are striving to catch up with the rest of the country.
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
As IAM waiting outside to pickup some food I ordered outside wearing a mask. Two unmasked Police officers walk in, door opened for them and they order and walk out with food while the rest of in the line are wow nice, priority service and different rules for the privileged. At that point yes I have to say I've feel like I've been "played" since nobody else can even walk -in.
Pitiful.
If you want to express an opinion that youth sports should be allowed ASAP, that is your right.
If you are trying to justify that by citing some imaginary data or sources, that is dishonest. That is also your right, by the way, but people will make note of it.
Seems like a good reason to complain to your local police.
They didn’t shoot an unarmed black person, so that’s something. Maybe after lunch.