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watfly said:
We will never agree on this topic. An opinion piece, but lays out the fact that Palestinian's have no interest in a two state solution, despite Israeli offers to do so. I think your position is the "alternate reality" that this article speaks to.

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Clinton, Arafat, and a Century of Rejection

Ever since the Hamas attacks of Oct. 7, 2023, Bill and Hillary Clinton have been unable to hide their frustration with progressives’ retreat into an alternate reality, one in which
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When has Israel offered to abide by a two state solution?
 
watfly said:
No doubt some of this is performative, or PR. Some of the things he is doing I don't think the majority would deem as helpful or productive, but yet its not being hidden. Is their crazier stuff that's being hidden, possibly, but doubtful since our bureaucracy is a majority left leaning, his administration is being watched more closely than any other. It's going to be very difficult to hide anything.

I don't think either side should be reflexive (good or bad) to Trumps actions, skepticism is healthy.
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Flood the zone to get through the agenda. Project 2025 in full effect, featuring some of the main players in it’s conception.
 
whatithink said:
No mention of the right of return of Palestinian refugees which Israel wouldn't allow (5000 over 5 years isn't serious), or that Palestine had to be a demilitarized "state" with Israeli military installations in key parts. It was not a sovereign state, which apparently was Arafat's problem.

That said, I do think that Arafat should have accepted it and that the Palestinian people would have bitten your hand off for either the 2000 or 2008 agreements, with the latter very unlikely to have gone through in any case.

It is a pity more effort hasn't been put into electoral changes in both Gaza and the West Bank rather than propping up ($$$) both Hamas and the PLA. That's the path IMO, giving people something to live for rather than nothing to live for.
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Giving Netanyahu an easy target to prop himself up against. That’s why he’s funded them.
 
watfly said:
Formally, 1947, 2000, 2007, but has offered talks on many other occasions. The Palestinians have rejected in all instances and in some cases have refused to negotiate at all.
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When one side is hell-bent on the other’s destruction, I’m not sure there is a peaceful solution. Definitely not eager to “occupy” Gaza.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
When one side is hell-bent on the other’s destruction, I’m not sure there is a peaceful solution. Definitely not eager to “occupy” Gaza.
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Gaza is just a place where the bankers and assholes can have endless wars, and no one wins. They never end because if they did, no more money. The Tel A Vision Programs our brain by their programming.
 
Pay for play U SAID? Come on now. The game was always rigged. Hey watty, can you check one of these potential untruths from crush. Social Media is going off on so much fraud right now. It's like people are waking up from being ripped off, lied to and poisoned. Gee, thanks friend. Anyway, thoughts on the Ukraine war if this news is true?

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