Surf ENCL vs. Slammers Koge

Best teacher of the game is playing.

Play Futsal, YMCA, AYSO, local city league, Sunday latin league, high school, pickup, club, etc.

Lots of people prefer to emphasize training more than playing, 4x a week or more for how long before real competition and game playing starts regularly. To. On top of that private or semis also.

I recall some DA teams training for 3-5 months straight and only getting 3 scheduled games or so before Nov'ish. Son had some friends on the Pats and others that would almost train to death and not hardly play it seemed. Motivation for competition is often more enlightening then just training or preparing.

Not sure what the ideal training with the team, on your own, to playing competitive games ratios are but I will tell you all 3 of our players would rather play a competitive game vs training > 3 sessions a week for example. 1.5 hr playing / 6hrs training should be enough. > Greater ratios are almost like diminishing returns for a lot of people.

Have to keep things fun and loving of the sport if you want players to play 12 years or so (5 to 17/18) and continue on to college, go pro, or just as a hobby. Overtraining or not being with a successful club/teams can suck the life out of things if your a paying customer.

High school people says it's not really costing much so the expectations and happiness Factor or not as affected.
 
Best teacher of the game is playing.

Play Futsal, YMCA, AYSO, local city league, Sunday latin league, high school, pickup, club, etc.

Lots of people prefer to emphasize training more than playing, 4x a week or more for how long before real competition and game playing starts regularly. To. On top of that private or semis also.

I recall some DA teams training for 3-5 months straight and only getting 3 scheduled games or so before Nov'ish. Son had some friends on the Pats and others that would almost train to death and not hardly play it seemed. Motivation for competition is often more enlightening then just training or preparing.

Not sure what the ideal training with the team, on your own, to playing competitive games ratios are but I will tell you all 3 of our players would rather play a competitive game vs training > 3 sessions a week for example. 1.5 hr playing / 6hrs training should be enough. > Greater ratios are almost like diminishing returns for a lot of people.

Have to keep things fun and loving of the sport if you want players to play 12 years or so (5 to 17/18) and continue on to college, go pro, or just as a hobby. Overtraining or not being with a successful club/teams can suck the life out of things if your a paying customer.

High school people says it's not really costing much so the expectations and happiness Factor or not as affected.

You need a lot of good coaching, teammates, managers, parents, mentors that all can contribute to helping teach also.

Really takes a village, each step along the way can be a platform for next one. some take longer vs others.

The truly special players can and will dominate stretches of games. After a while sometimes its time to move up or along to the next level or challenge. When you see a player consistent playing at another level, time to move along. I call this the dominance factor, players that have that consistently are the ones that keep playing in college, pros, beyond.
 
You are missing out on the chance to learn from a lot of people that know better than you do because you’re stuck on your own ego. At least 4 parents of YNT/high level players have now given you similar advice - that there is value in the club soccer environment for many reasons, some of which are unique and cannot be duplicated elsewhere. My suggestion is to stop talking and listen to the quality answers that you’ve already been provided. All your questions have been answered if you would slow down and actually read. High school soccer and WPSL are valuable extra resources for their own reasons but are insufficient replacements.
There are zero high level players who have elected to forgo the club environment and play only high school and WPSL. There are many high level players who play WPSL in addition to club. Nobody plays high school to gain skill because the majority of players in high school have lower skill. There are exactly three high level players who have opted out of female club soccer - AT/GT play for a boys club and OM plays professionally. AT/GT are exceptional and played all the way up in the oldest age group for several years (and excelled) before they moved out and into a boys club.
You want to do it another way? Have at it. But it’ll be a lot harder and it’s unnecessary. I guess you have to decide if you actually want to learn from others or not. I’ve spent FAR too much time on this already so I’m out.
I think you are a passive aggressive racist that has a problem with intelligent black folks. Have you watched that pro game yet? Attached please find and American white guy saying what I was saying; hopefully you can receive the message from a white dude.
 
I think you are a passive aggressive racist that has a problem with intelligent black folks. Have you watched that pro game yet? Attached please find and American white guy saying what I was saying; hopefully you can receive the message from a white dude.
@Dominic : I do not think that this person should be allowed to participate in the blog. One can write as much nonsense as desired, that is not a problem, this is a blog after all. But reading such a racist diatribe is uncomfortable and disturbing, it should not be allowed
 
@Dominic : I do not think that this person should be allowed to participate in the blog. One can write as much nonsense as desired, that is not a problem, this is a blog after all. But reading such a racist diatribe is uncomfortable and disturbing, it should not be allowed

Pitiful.
 
I think you are a passive aggressive racist that has a problem with intelligent black folks. Have you watched that pro game yet? Attached please find and American white guy saying what I was saying; hopefully you can receive the message from a white dude.

Ironically, the video contradicts your training regimen in terms of running without a ball, and tell me where your gonna get quality rondos except on a team...we've tried to help you but you're not listening and keep putting a ton of weight on one person's opinion ...and your racist accusation is outta line so I'm done.
 
Ironically, the video contradicts your training regimen in terms of running without a ball, and tell me where your gonna get quality rondos except on a team...we've tried to help you but you're not listening and keep putting a ton of weight on one person's opinion ...and your racist accusation is outta line so I'm done.
He doesn’t contradict me. He says that you still have to do timed 2 mile runs, sprints etc….
I’m not taking one persons advice. Rather, I’m showing your dumb ass that the information is readily available if you cared enough to do the research.
Miss me with the bullshit.
 
It's always interesting to see how a topic gets hijacked by a few. The last 4 or 5 pages of this thread has nothing to do with the topic that most us want to talk about or read about. The topic is Surf ECNL vs. Slammers Koge.

I understand you want to get your message out there. Please start a new thread about the topic you want to discuss.

I was actually interested in the actual thread as to why, how the two clubs pulled off avoiding playing each other in the first game. It appears that the real motivation was to avoid a loss early on but, I don't know that. Others may have some insightful information about the situation but it got drowned out by some of you that want to discuss your ideas and or philosophies that have nothing to do with this thread. Please for all of our sake stay on topic or start a new thread.
 
It's always interesting to see how a topic gets hijacked by a few. The last 4 or 5 pages of this thread has nothing to do with the topic that most us want to talk about or read about. The topic is Surf ECNL vs. Slammers Koge.

I understand you want to get your message out there. Please start a new thread about the topic you want to discuss.

I was actually interested in the actual thread as to why, how the two clubs pulled off avoiding playing each other in the first game. It appears that the real motivation was to avoid a loss early on but, I don't know that. Others may have some insightful information about the situation but it got drowned out by some of you that want to discuss your ideas and or philosophies that have nothing to do with this thread. Please for all of our sake stay on topic or start a new thread.
We shall never know the truth in this sport. Trust me, I'm still trying to get questions answerred from three years ago. My dd is now hurt again from this past weekend. Some had back to back under 18 hours all the while the top docs make a quickie call and they can skip the big match up. Anyone willing to give us a better reason then what socal soccer 1 is saying? Lastly, I'm sorry for going sideways. I will take it take it to the off topic. All clubs and players need equal rights and same chance to reschedule games any time they feel like it. Something smells like a fish..
 
I agree
We shall never know the truth in this sport. Trust me, I'm still trying to get questions answerred from three years ago. My dd is now hurt again from this past weekend. Some had back to back under 18 hours all the while the top docs make a quickie call and they can skip the big match up. Anyone willing to give us a better reason then what socal soccer 1 is saying? Lastly, I'm sorry for going sideways. I will take it take it to the off topic. All clubs and players need equal rights and same chance to reschedule games any time they feel like it. Something smells like a fish..

I agree.

They need to be held accountable otherwise nothing will change. Perhaps it will never change but the additional potential pressure and/or brining the situation to light at minimum should put some pressure either from ECNL or public outing so that they don't pull a fast one in the future. BTW, sorry to hear about your dd getting hurt, I hope a fast recovery for her.
 
I agree


I agree.

They need to be held accountable otherwise nothing will change. Perhaps it will never change but the additional potential pressure and/or brining the situation to light at minimum should put some pressure either from ECNL or public outing so that they don't pull a fast one in the future. BTW, sorry to hear about your dd getting hurt, I hope a fast recovery for her.
Last time I put pressure on a club I was labeled a club hopper for leaving and black listed. I was warned to STFU or else. Three years later I'm still yapping my gums and I will never STFU, but it looks like the top dogs have some sway after all. Anyone from Slams want to chime in on what happen? Maybe we wrong and like others have said, "WTF cares, it's just one game and they will have to make it up some day." If both clubs never advertised championships or being rewarded with top club of all the other clubs, then this is a nothing burger. I want fairness at least for God Almighty sakes and for the Sake of Christ at least. We need fair and honest play for all, regardless of who you know and who you rub with.
 
I just had this thought and maybe even a question to those in the know. Why can;t ECNL schedule a game during the week? Tuesday or a Wednesday and then another on a Saturday and give Sunday back to the families for family time and also gibe these poor girls a day off. This back to back is no bueno, moo!!!
 
Legends were 19-0-4 (ECNL and ECRL) and Blues were 21-1 this past weekend in extreme Riverside and Arizona weather respectively.

Win your own games and don't worry about someone else.
Spoken like Messi. Very nice record for the record heat weeknd. Congrats to all the winners this weeknd in the heat. That one hit me in da gut, ouch. Nice one and I needed that. WTF cares everyone. Play whenever the hell you want and who care how hot it is for your dd.
 
Spoken like Messi. Very nice record for the record heat weeknd. Congrats to all the winners this weeknd in the heat. That one hit me in da gut, ouch. Nice one and I needed that. WTF cares everyone. Play whenever the hell you want and who care how hot it is for your dd.
Kind of... 105-110 heat + humid tends to kill people.
 
Legends were 19-0-4 (ECNL and ECRL) and Blues were 21-1 this past weekend in extreme Riverside and Arizona weather respectively.

Win your own games and don't worry about someone else.

I don't disagree with your point but curious what do those numbers mean? 6 ECNL teams so a total of 12 games each for Legends and Blues.....but that shows 23 and 22 games......
 
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