Surf Cup's Fate

Yep will be watching some great soccer. Gee, give you my club name so you can send emails to anybody and everybody complaining about our attendance and doing everything possible to create problems for my kids club? I tell you what though I'd love to meet some of you little sheep clowns face to face down there and see if you are still keyboard tough guys. I'm sure you little snowflakes wont even consider meeting me there face to face because you know you are nothing more then meaningless words on the internet. View attachment 9697

Got it. Surf versus Blues in every final. Sounds exciting.

I’ll be rooting for that Beach team.
 
Because it looks like someone is trying to sell people a bill of goods here.

Come to AZ and play Surf Cup. So you pay your insane fee and book your overpriced hotel. Then, when the team list is out, it looks like a silver level tournament in Barstow. You exposed your team and their families for nothing.

There you go defaming a well known tournament with no factual basis. Just meaningless dribble.
 
Because it looks like someone is trying to sell people a bill of goods here.

Come to AZ and play Surf Cup. So you pay your insane fee and book your overpriced hotel. Then, when the team list is out, it looks like a silver level tournament in Barstow. You exposed your team and their families for nothing.
I'm skeptical that that's your true intent since you're not going, why would you care about the level of competition? That having been said, I sure hope people aren't making exposure related decisions based upon the level of competition, I would think you would feel the same way.

People have all sorts of motivations for playing and justifications for the price of things. If I was concerned about the level of competition its simple enough just to ask Surf who is confirmed for your bracket. If they won't or can't tell you then make your decision from there.
 
My hospital is down to 2 ICU beds. My county‘s daily case rate is 2000% of their case rate in mid October. No, that’s not a typo. We went from 70 to 1400.

That’s enough of a surge for me, thanks. What are you waiting for before you are willing to say it’s a problem?
That is terrible, but last I checked Thanksgiving isnt in October. Im not disputing things are worse than in October, no one can. What I am saying is the fear porn is at epic levels right now. The area with the most lax rules over Thanksgiving is dropping in cases and hospitalizations. We "should" follow that trend..
 
That is terrible, but last I checked Thanksgiving isnt in October. Im not disputing things are worse than in October, no one can. What I am saying is the fear porn is at epic levels right now. The area with the most lax rules over Thanksgiving is dropping in cases and hospitalizations. We "should" follow that trend..
Oct was when my county opened restaurants. That was the surge.

Then we had Thanksgiving. That caused a surge on top of the first surge.

No thanks on following North Dakota on this.
 
Oct was when my county opened restaurants. That was the surge.

Then we had Thanksgiving. That caused a surge on top of the first surge.

No thanks on following North Dakota on this.

Los Angeles has had indoor dining shut all along and we still got the surge.
 
It's an opinion, likely stemming from accurate assumptions

Haven't we hashed this out about a gazillion posts before? What's up with the requirement for surgical precision? I thought this was safe place to share information without the requirement to testify in front of congress. And please don't reply that misinformation is being provided, cuz it's not. What you are getting is valid information from parents in those clubs that aren't going.

We can likely say, without having to cite sources that most of the NORCAL ECNL/GA teams aren't going. None of the MLS next teams are going (theirNOV event was cancelled in Tucson). Many of the SOCAL ECNL/GA teams aren't going - Surf is likely trying to send some team, but that's just them trying to carry the colors. Blues sound like they are dropping most teams. The AZ ECNL/GA teams aren't playing.

I know there is more to the soccer world than ECNL/GA/MLS, but for many it's the world we operate in. I know Surf attracts many very good top clubs that are not affiliated with one of the silly letter leagues. I have no idea, within that category, who is going and who has cancelled. I suspect many have backed out.

So yea, is Surf a go? Don't know. Will it look similar to what a normal Surf tournament looks like? Nope. If it happens, will your players play? Sure. Is it worth it? Up to you. If I were in your situation, would I go? nope.
Would love to see if your "accurate assumptions" turn out to be accurate. My accurate assumptions say your assumptions are wrong, at least for quite a few teams.

When someone says 450 teams are pulling out previously and now says 85% but then can't name the teams, I can't help but roll my eyes. I guess the truth will come out amongst all this BS info that anyone can claim is accurate lol.
 
For olders big Bunch of Surf & Slammers teams added.

(12) or so Beach teams, (9) City SC, (6) DMCV, (10) Eagles, (15) Heat NV, (7) LAFC Slam, (8) Pats, (15) Real Socal, (12) Rebels, (12) RSL AZ, (10) Blues, (7) Strikers

Utah, texas, washington also sending teams with Utah having the biggest numbers over AZ for example.
 
Would love to see if your "accurate assumptions" turn out to be accurate. My accurate assumptions say your assumptions are wrong, at least for quite a few teams.

When someone says 450 teams are pulling out previously and now says 85% but then can't name the teams, I can't help but roll my eyes. I guess the truth will come out amongst all this BS info that anyone can claim is accurate lol.
Fair enough. You can see how the argument is circular and how your characterization of quite a few teams is just as vague as someone saying many teams aren't coming. Surf is on until it's not. If it's on, safe travels and enjoy your time in AZ. Hopefully your matches are played on the pitches at SSC.
 
For olders big Bunch of Surf & Slammers teams added.

(12) or so Beach teams, (9) City SC, (6) DMCV, (10) Eagles, (15) Heat NV, (7) LAFC Slam, (8) Pats, (15) Real Socal, (12) Rebels, (12) RSL AZ, (10) Blues, (7) Strikers

Utah, texas, washington also sending teams with Utah having the biggest numbers over AZ for example.


But, but, but Dad4 told us everyone had dropped out of the tournament and it was just a barstow scrimmage game now.
 
And because our California government is incompetent (particularly the EDD), $2 billion in Covid unemployment benefits went to prisoners and other non-qualified individuals and because our Federal government is incompetent unknown billions of PPP has gone to businesses that didn't qualify.

Yeah, given that I always think that "competent government" is an oxymoron, I'm not surprised.

On the other side of the scale, they had to do something rapidly so nobody should be shocked at the lack of controls.
 
For olders big Bunch of Surf & Slammers teams added.

(12) or so Beach teams, (9) City SC, (6) DMCV, (10) Eagles, (15) Heat NV, (7) LAFC Slam, (8) Pats, (15) Real Socal, (12) Rebels, (12) RSL AZ, (10) Blues, (7) Strikers

Utah, texas, washington also sending teams with Utah having the biggest numbers over AZ for example.
where do you see this information?
 
But, but, but Dad4 told us everyone had dropped out of the tournament and it was just a barstow scrimmage game now.
So release the teams list, and keep it up to date.

Right now, we have a Surf website saying Beach is in, and a Beach parent saying all teams are out.

Doesn't inspire confidence in the rest of the list, does it? Sure seems like cancellations might be kept quiet until after it's too late to get money back.
 
So release the teams list, and keep it up to date.

Right now, we have a Surf website saying Beach is in, and a Beach parent saying all teams are out.

Doesn't inspire confidence in the rest of the list, does it? Sure seems like cancellations might be kept quiet until after it's too late to get money back.

Just so everyone understands, you dont have a kid playing in the tournament so now you have made it your life mission to talk crap about the tournament and spread false misleading information with no factual basis. Do you even have a kid in youth soccer? What is your obsession with this tournament? Surf team turned your kid down due to sub par play? Vendetta now?
 
For olders big Bunch of Surf & Slammers teams added.

(12) or so Beach teams, (9) City SC, (6) DMCV, (10) Eagles, (15) Heat NV, (7) LAFC Slam, (8) Pats, (15) Real Socal, (12) Rebels, (12) RSL AZ, (10) Blues, (7) Strikers

Utah, texas, washington also sending teams with Utah having the biggest numbers over AZ for example.
All Beach teams are out. The oldest age group requested an exception on the girls side and were denied by the club.
 
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