Surf Cup's Fate

My hospital is down to 2 ICU beds. My county‘s daily case rate is 2000% of their case rate in mid October. No, that’s not a typo. We went from 70 to 1400.

That’s enough of a surge for me, thanks. What are you waiting for before you are willing to say it’s a problem?
That is terrible, but last I checked Thanksgiving isnt in October. Im not disputing things are worse than in October, no one can. What I am saying is the fear porn is at epic levels right now. The area with the most lax rules over Thanksgiving is dropping in cases and hospitalizations. We "should" follow that trend..
 
That is terrible, but last I checked Thanksgiving isnt in October. Im not disputing things are worse than in October, no one can. What I am saying is the fear porn is at epic levels right now. The area with the most lax rules over Thanksgiving is dropping in cases and hospitalizations. We "should" follow that trend..
Oct was when my county opened restaurants. That was the surge.

Then we had Thanksgiving. That caused a surge on top of the first surge.

No thanks on following North Dakota on this.
 
Oct was when my county opened restaurants. That was the surge.

Then we had Thanksgiving. That caused a surge on top of the first surge.

No thanks on following North Dakota on this.

Los Angeles has had indoor dining shut all along and we still got the surge.
 
It's an opinion, likely stemming from accurate assumptions

Haven't we hashed this out about a gazillion posts before? What's up with the requirement for surgical precision? I thought this was safe place to share information without the requirement to testify in front of congress. And please don't reply that misinformation is being provided, cuz it's not. What you are getting is valid information from parents in those clubs that aren't going.

We can likely say, without having to cite sources that most of the NORCAL ECNL/GA teams aren't going. None of the MLS next teams are going (theirNOV event was cancelled in Tucson). Many of the SOCAL ECNL/GA teams aren't going - Surf is likely trying to send some team, but that's just them trying to carry the colors. Blues sound like they are dropping most teams. The AZ ECNL/GA teams aren't playing.

I know there is more to the soccer world than ECNL/GA/MLS, but for many it's the world we operate in. I know Surf attracts many very good top clubs that are not affiliated with one of the silly letter leagues. I have no idea, within that category, who is going and who has cancelled. I suspect many have backed out.

So yea, is Surf a go? Don't know. Will it look similar to what a normal Surf tournament looks like? Nope. If it happens, will your players play? Sure. Is it worth it? Up to you. If I were in your situation, would I go? nope.
Would love to see if your "accurate assumptions" turn out to be accurate. My accurate assumptions say your assumptions are wrong, at least for quite a few teams.

When someone says 450 teams are pulling out previously and now says 85% but then can't name the teams, I can't help but roll my eyes. I guess the truth will come out amongst all this BS info that anyone can claim is accurate lol.
 
For olders big Bunch of Surf & Slammers teams added.

(12) or so Beach teams, (9) City SC, (6) DMCV, (10) Eagles, (15) Heat NV, (7) LAFC Slam, (8) Pats, (15) Real Socal, (12) Rebels, (12) RSL AZ, (10) Blues, (7) Strikers

Utah, texas, washington also sending teams with Utah having the biggest numbers over AZ for example.
 
Would love to see if your "accurate assumptions" turn out to be accurate. My accurate assumptions say your assumptions are wrong, at least for quite a few teams.

When someone says 450 teams are pulling out previously and now says 85% but then can't name the teams, I can't help but roll my eyes. I guess the truth will come out amongst all this BS info that anyone can claim is accurate lol.
Fair enough. You can see how the argument is circular and how your characterization of quite a few teams is just as vague as someone saying many teams aren't coming. Surf is on until it's not. If it's on, safe travels and enjoy your time in AZ. Hopefully your matches are played on the pitches at SSC.
 
For olders big Bunch of Surf & Slammers teams added.

(12) or so Beach teams, (9) City SC, (6) DMCV, (10) Eagles, (15) Heat NV, (7) LAFC Slam, (8) Pats, (15) Real Socal, (12) Rebels, (12) RSL AZ, (10) Blues, (7) Strikers

Utah, texas, washington also sending teams with Utah having the biggest numbers over AZ for example.


But, but, but Dad4 told us everyone had dropped out of the tournament and it was just a barstow scrimmage game now.
 
And because our California government is incompetent (particularly the EDD), $2 billion in Covid unemployment benefits went to prisoners and other non-qualified individuals and because our Federal government is incompetent unknown billions of PPP has gone to businesses that didn't qualify.

Yeah, given that I always think that "competent government" is an oxymoron, I'm not surprised.

On the other side of the scale, they had to do something rapidly so nobody should be shocked at the lack of controls.
 
For olders big Bunch of Surf & Slammers teams added.

(12) or so Beach teams, (9) City SC, (6) DMCV, (10) Eagles, (15) Heat NV, (7) LAFC Slam, (8) Pats, (15) Real Socal, (12) Rebels, (12) RSL AZ, (10) Blues, (7) Strikers

Utah, texas, washington also sending teams with Utah having the biggest numbers over AZ for example.
where do you see this information?
 
But, but, but Dad4 told us everyone had dropped out of the tournament and it was just a barstow scrimmage game now.
So release the teams list, and keep it up to date.

Right now, we have a Surf website saying Beach is in, and a Beach parent saying all teams are out.

Doesn't inspire confidence in the rest of the list, does it? Sure seems like cancellations might be kept quiet until after it's too late to get money back.
 
So release the teams list, and keep it up to date.

Right now, we have a Surf website saying Beach is in, and a Beach parent saying all teams are out.

Doesn't inspire confidence in the rest of the list, does it? Sure seems like cancellations might be kept quiet until after it's too late to get money back.

Just so everyone understands, you dont have a kid playing in the tournament so now you have made it your life mission to talk crap about the tournament and spread false misleading information with no factual basis. Do you even have a kid in youth soccer? What is your obsession with this tournament? Surf team turned your kid down due to sub par play? Vendetta now?
 
For olders big Bunch of Surf & Slammers teams added.

(12) or so Beach teams, (9) City SC, (6) DMCV, (10) Eagles, (15) Heat NV, (7) LAFC Slam, (8) Pats, (15) Real Socal, (12) Rebels, (12) RSL AZ, (10) Blues, (7) Strikers

Utah, texas, washington also sending teams with Utah having the biggest numbers over AZ for example.
All Beach teams are out. The oldest age group requested an exception on the girls side and were denied by the club.
 
And just by coincidence within a 2-3 week window every state and pretty much every country in the N Hemisphere had the same spike as well?

I guess they all opened up their restaurants in Oct as well.

Actually, in October we had a national conspiracy to close all restaurant windows and reset the clocks to make it dark in the evenings.

I think the illuminati were behind it. It's where their name comes from.
 
Fair enough. You can see how the argument is circular and how your characterization of quite a few teams is just as vague as someone saying many teams aren't coming. Surf is on until it's not. If it's on, safe travels and enjoy your time in AZ. Hopefully your matches are played on the pitches at SSC.
Thats exactly my point, the vague answers after claiming 450 teams and 85% being pulled makes it very hard to be credible. All I asked for was who are these teams? How can we trust assumptions after claims like that? Let's just see what happens.
 
Actually, in October we had a national conspiracy to close all restaurant windows and reset the clocks to make it dark in the evenings.

I think the illuminati were behind it. It's where their name comes from.
I just find it more than entertaining that you cant really explain why pretty much everywhere in the N Hemisphere had the same spike within roughly the same 2-3 week period.

Your go to is well it must be restaurants and bars. As if magically everywhere in the N Hemisphere bars and restaurants all by chance also opened up in the same 2-3 week window.

Hey I wonder if this square peg fits into that circular hole? Didn't the first few times. Maybe this time it will.
 
Just so everyone understands, you dont have a kid playing in the tournament so now you have made it your life mission to talk crap about the tournament and spread false misleading information with no factual basis. Do you even have a kid in youth soccer? What is your obsession with this tournament? Surf team turned your kid down due to sub par play? Vendetta now?

You actually typed this out and didn't realize the irony? You are accusing someone of the very thing thing that you went on to do.

So..to make sure I understand, you are accusing someone of not making a Surf team and then using that as a motive to provide false information about a tournament that is obviously not what it set out to be. And you went directly after their player? Strong, and quite the tuff guy.

At some point we will see what the team list is and then we can rehash everyone's opinion on whether the competition is good or not. There will undoubtedly be opinions, which is not a bad thing.

What exactly is false information? someone just posted that 12 beach teams are going followed quickly by someone saying none are going?
 
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