Surf? What is there to discuss? 85% of us have backed out. 15% are going to wait for the fat lady to sing. Of course, she has covid, so the finale is delayed.
If you want to talk Surf, let’s talk about Del Mar in August or November.
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If you want to talk Surf, let’s talk about Del Mar in August or November.
MSK357
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who are the 85% and who are the 15%? or is this your opinion?
Yours in futbol
SILVER
I believe Redfield said the death toll could be 200k in the months of December through the end of February, not just December.
Based on your report that the US has suffered 36k deaths through just the first half of December so far .. do you still think they were predicting a bigger surge? It seems as though we are sadly on track to meet Redfield's prediction unless we continue to introduce mitigation measures (e.g., vaccinations, mask mandates, restricted indoor activities, etc.).
CDC Director: Winter Could Bring 200,000 Deaths, ‘Most Difficult’ Period Of US’s Public Health History
It doesn't have to be this way, warns Dr. Robert Redfield.
www.forbes.com
whatithink
GOLD
They added $250B to unemployment payments. They gave $850B in PPP to businesses incl small businesses. The individual checks "only" totaled $300B, and obviously some of that went to those who didn't need it, some who desperately needed it and some who were somewhere in between.
Here's a good overview, The $2 trillion CARES Act, a response to COVID-19, is equivalent to 45% of all 2019 federal spending - USAFacts
Just watching the posts here. So far, no one has said their club is going other than Surf and part of Blues.
Are you going? If so, what club?
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
I believe Redfield said the death toll could be 200k in the months of December through the end of February, not just December.
Based on your report that the US has suffered 36k deaths through just the first half of December so far .. do you still think they were predicting a bigger surge? It seems as though we are sadly on track to meet Redfield's prediction unless we continue to introduce mitigation measures (e.g., vaccinations, mask mandates, restricted indoor activities, etc.).
CDC Director: Winter Could Bring 200,000 Deaths, ‘Most Difficult’ Period Of US’s Public Health History
It doesn't have to be this way, warns Dr. Robert Redfield.
Biden Predicts 250,000 More Coronavirus Deaths, Urges Americans To Stay Home Over Holidays
You cannot be travelling during these holidays, as much as you want to,” the president-elect said.
www.forbes.com
I have misread before, but didn't Redfield say 450,000 through the end of February?
"On Wednesday, Redfield said the U.S. could see 450,000 deaths over the next three months"
Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church received $4.4M COVID-19 PPP loan. Isn;t that special!!!!
MSK357
GOLD
Im asking you. You seem to know that 85% backed out. that is a very specific percentage. It gives the appearance that you know who have backed out of the number of teams accepted. please share who those clubs are since you say they were posted here. or else please clearly state its your assumption based on a few posts.
Look, although they fight for market share like Arrowhead Spring Water and Sparkles Water, they help each other make money. I'll play in your is if you play in mine. I will steal your goat, just don't steal mine. I will offer goat access and you can;t loser. We play possession and you play kickball. How much you want for your biz?
Aka "fear mongering". Compliance through fear, one of the great leadership techniques. I'm not sure that even works for churches.
Does anyone remember that story from when you were a kid about the "boy who cried wolf"?
I'm here to say it does unfortunately. I'm living proof. I knew I had to experience hard core church for a reason. I now know why now. If you leave, you will be double the sinner that you were when you came to this find place of healing with control. If you leave, you will be going to hell and because your the dad, your wife will go to hell because of your poor choice of leaving and the kids too, plus Oreo. On top of all that, you better give 10% to guys like Joel so you can prosper like him and his wife. We have lots to work on in this country.Aka "fear mongering". Compliance through fear, one of the great leadership techniques. I'm not sure that even works with churches.
Does anyone remember that story from when you were a kid about the "boy who cried wolf"?
I think he was saying the total could hit 450K by Feb. 60K per month for 3 months, plus those who have died already.Biden Predicts 250,000 More Coronavirus Deaths, Urges Americans To Stay Home Over Holidays
You cannot be travelling during these holidays, as much as you want to,” the president-elect said.
I have misread before, but didn't Redfield say 450,000 through the end of February?
"On Wednesday, Redfield said the U.S. could see 450,000 deaths over the next three months"
”However, accounting for an upwards trend gaining momentum through November, Redfield’s projection is that nearly 60,000 new deaths will be reported during each of the next three months, meaning just over 2,000 Americans will die each day.”
450 teams in the tournament so that is his 15%? Lol....guess there was 3000 teams in the tournament originally according to his great statistical info.
Have it your way. A shit load of teams have backed out. A few are still in.
Is your kid’s team going?
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
It does appear that the two articles (both from Forbes) have different information included. While not necessarily conflicting, the numbers could obviously have used some context such as a range of values to better represent what Redfield was saying.Biden Predicts 250,000 More Coronavirus Deaths, Urges Americans To Stay Home Over Holidays
You cannot be travelling during these holidays, as much as you want to,” the president-elect said.
I have misread before, but didn't Redfield say 450,000 through the end of February?
"On Wednesday, Redfield said the U.S. could see 450,000 deaths over the next three months"
I can't get to yours anymore due to a paywall, but I saw where he talked about 200,000 through the end of February and I went to the link I used originally on the 2nd. The 450,000 number was pretty crazy, though. I wouldn't have blinked if he predicted 200,000 through the end of February.
That 450 is after they called up every rejected team and offerred them a spot. They still came up short.
Is your kid’s team going? If so, what club?
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Different links with different information - both from Forbes and both on the 2nd. That's an odd way to report. However, the link I list definitely states the following, which does not indicate the 450K is cumulative.
"On Wednesday, Redfield said the U.S. could see 450,000 deaths over the next three months"
If the article I saw would have said he expected 200,000 over the next 3 months, I wouldn't have blinked. It could just be sloppy reporting.
And because our California government is incompetent (particularly the EDD), $2 billion in Covid unemployment benefits went to prisoners and other non-qualified individuals and because our Federal government is incompetent unknown billions of PPP has gone to businesses that didn't qualify.
California unemployment fraud amid COVID-19 pandemic may total $2 billion, Bank of America says
The bank, which has contracted with the state Employment Development Department to issue debit cards containing unemployment benefits, issued the warning in a letter to California legislators.
www.latimes.com
How about helping the Gym Guy? Dang, these guys open up a gym to help with everyone's health and they want them shut down for good. This is insane I say......And because our California government is incompetent (particularly the EDD), $2 billion in Covid unemployment benefits went to prisoners and other non-qualified individuals and because our Federal government is incompetent unknown billions of PPP has gone to businesses that didn't qualify.
California unemployment fraud amid COVID-19 pandemic may total $2 billion, Bank of America says
The bank, which has contracted with the state Employment Development Department to issue debit cards containing unemployment benefits, issued the warning in a letter to California legislators.
It's an opinion, likely stemming from accurate assumptions
Haven't we hashed this out about a gazillion posts before? What's up with the requirement for surgical precision? I thought this was safe place to share information without the requirement to testify in front of congress. And please don't reply that misinformation is being provided, cuz it's not. What you are getting is valid information from parents in those clubs that aren't going.
We can likely say, without having to cite sources that most of the NORCAL ECNL/GA teams aren't going. None of the MLS next teams are going (theirNOV event was cancelled in Tucson). Many of the SOCAL ECNL/GA teams aren't going - Surf is likely trying to send some team, but that's just them trying to carry the colors. Blues sound like they are dropping most teams. The AZ ECNL/GA teams aren't playing.
I know there is more to the soccer world than ECNL/GA/MLS, but for many it's the world we operate in. I know Surf attracts many very good top clubs that are not affiliated with one of the silly letter leagues. I have no idea, within that category, who is going and who has cancelled. I suspect many have backed out.
So yea, is Surf a go? Don't know. Will it look similar to what a normal Surf tournament looks like? Nope. If it happens, will your players play? Sure. Is it worth it? Up to you. If I were in your situation, would I go? nope.