Surf Cup's Fate

Luis Andres said:
If Surf was smart they would move the tournament to coachella area where there is a Indian reservation. Get people to book at the casino hotels nearby and spread out their tournament over a few weeks to minimize lots of people congregated at once. Tournament for Dec 12 is still on for the Indian reservation lol...


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Hey Luis.... shhhhh I kinda feel like the more tournaments get talked about on here the quicker they get cancelled lol
 
The upcoming Holiday Cup Classic next weekend is still on (for now). Certainly smaller than Surf Cup but still over 300 teams that were supposed to use Reach 11 and Scottsdale Sports Complex. The tournament director sent our club the following message:

Holiday Classic Teams,

We have received word that the City of Phoenix has decided to close their fields. We had planned to use the city of Phoenix fields in addition to fields in other local cities around the Phoenix area. We know that this new closure information is causing concerns regarding how this will affect tournament play. We are still planning on continuing with our event. Please give us a few days to review this new information and to determine how this will affect field usage. We will be in contact very soon and appreciate your patience as we work through this. We will be in touch as soon as possible.
 
I hope it goes ahead, my DD won't be there but she had a great time at the ECNL showcase last month and Covid doesn't spread on the fields so they games should be played......however the below quotes from Surf's release are so disingenuous.....they want the $$$$$$, stop making us parents more stressed than we already are with BS comments like below...... yes I feel this way as do most of us but for the organizers of Surf Cup to be saying this is real rich.....

"we truly feel that these players need this event for more than just the soccer portion of what it brings but also for their physical and mental well being.

"we are all wanting to do something special for our children!"
 
SacBVB said:
The upcoming Holiday Cup Classic next weekend is still on (for now). Certainly smaller than Surf Cup but still over 300 teams that were supposed to use Reach 11 and Scottsdale Sports Complex. The tournament director sent our club the following message:

Holiday Classic Teams,

We have received word that the City of Phoenix has decided to close their fields. We had planned to use the city of Phoenix fields in addition to fields in other local cities around the Phoenix area. We know that this new closure information is causing concerns regarding how this will affect tournament play. We are still planning on continuing with our event. Please give us a few days to review this new information and to determine how this will affect field usage. We will be in contact very soon and appreciate your patience as we work through this. We will be in touch as soon as possible.
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Excellent, glad they are able to logistically modify so those kids can play some ball. I'm sure the politicians that made the decision to close fields are sitting in a crowded expensive restaurant having a meal with 10 of their close friends. I hope the teams have a great tournament.
 
futboldad1 said:
I hope it goes ahead, my DD won't be there but she had a great time at the ECNL showcase last month and Covid doesn't spread on the fields so they games should be played......however the below quotes from Surf's release are so disingenuous.....they want the $$$$$$, stop making us parents more stressed than we already are with BS comments like below...... yes I feel this way as do most of us but for the organizers of Surf Cup to be saying this is real rich.....

"we truly feel that these players need this event for more than just the soccer portion of what it brings but also for their physical and mental well being.

"we are all wanting to do something special for our children!"
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Of course money is a club goal but I have no problem with their statement. 99% of kids involved in youth sports just want to play period. That is my speculation based on my kids attitude and all the others I see at practice, scrimmages and available tournaments. That is why some of the small tournaments are seeing 5x or even 10x the amount of teams applying over last year.

Let them kids play...
 
happy9 said:
Yep, just the city of phoenix. The complete lack of understanding in regards to problem solving and administrating is woefully embarrassing. Somehow, canceling a soccer tournament is going to stop people from coming to the state. This is low hanging fruit for a group people who are incredibly under qualified to handle the crisis at hand.

We will see how the other cities react. Plenty of events upcoming in the City of Scottsdale that drive revenue.
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Lavey29 said:
Excellent, glad they are able to logistically modify so those kids can play some ball. I'm sure the politicians that made the decision to close fields are sitting in a crowded expensive restaurant having a meal with 10 of their close friends. I hope the teams have a great tournament.
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RSL just picked up the Paloma fields and they are not affiliated with a city so.. that will be the anchor. Hopefully they can find some other facilities to get this to work.
 
surf&donuts said:
They are not allowed to go to Arizona or Coachella?
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Arizona is sanctioned (was) by Calsouth. Natives FC is not. I called as I was trying to get my team to attend. You are on your own as you have no insurance and most large clubs are not allowing clubs to play that tournament. They also raised their prices to $1,000 for the MLK tournament. Supply and Demand.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
Arizona is sanctioned (was) by Calsouth. Natives FC is not. I called as I was trying to get my team to attend. You are on your own as you have no insurance and most large clubs are not allowing clubs to play that tournament. They also raised their prices to $1,000 for the MLK tournament. Supply and Demand.
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I think Arizona tournaments are typically sanctioned by Arizona Soccer Association which is part of US Youth Soccer (Which is part of USSF). Cal-South is also part of US Youth Soccer. State governing bodies within US Youth Soccer are affiliated and have insurance reciprocity (I think. Might need to fact check this).
The Natives tournaments are on sovereign nation land and are not subject to the rules or affiliated with the insurance policies of US Youth Soccer.
I think the tournament is awesome and I hope it goes well for everyone. But you might be at an "Enter at your own risk" environment if anything happens. I'm sure the folks running the tournament have some sort of liability insurance for themselves. Not sure what type of coverage your club, team, coach or players will have.
 
oh canada said:
Newsom just announced a non-essential travel ban that will likely kick in throughout the state in the next few days. Can't see Surf encouraging families to disobey this state order, regardless of its merits or effectiveness or lack thereof.
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The lockdown - for the regions that it applies to - will be temporary. You make an assumption that it will last into January.
 
I believe ( not certain) the non essential travel order is effective immediately. They did not specify any date when it goes into effect. They just said non essential travel is to be stopped statewide and didn't specify a date. They did say that only essential workers or travelers are supposed to stay in hotels statewide.
 
ITFC Blues said:
I believe ( not certain) the non essential travel order is effective immediately. They did not specify any date when it goes into effect. They just said non essential travel is to be stopped statewide and didn't specify a date. They did say that only essential workers or travelers are supposed to stay in hotels statewide.
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It applies to any region with fewer than 15% of ICU beds available.

Hits socal in the next few days. Bay area a week or three later.
 
timbuck said:
But you might be at an "Enter at your own risk" environment if anything happens. I'm sure the folks running the tournament have some sort of liability insurance for themselves. Not sure what type of coverage your club, team, coach or players will have.
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Do many people make a decision to play in a tournament based on whether it is Cal South sanctioned and has insurance? My kids play in 3-4 non-sanctioned tournaments a year that are thrown by some local person that has a waiver for you to sign. I suspect most people on this forum are the same.

What is the actual benefit of the Cal South insurance coverage? Real question. I honestly don't know.
 
justneededaname said:
Do many people make a decision to play in a tournament based on whether it is Cal South sanctioned and has insurance? My kids play in 3-4 non-sanctioned tournaments a year that are thrown by some local person that has a waiver for you to sign. I suspect most people on this forum are the same.

What is the actual benefit of the Cal South insurance coverage? Real question. I honestly don't know.
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Covers the club and coach just in case your child gets injured or gets covid and you believe it was a coach negligence or club negligence. Welcome to the USA where there’s a lawsuit to happen the moment you walk out of your house.
 
justneededaname said:
What is the actual benefit of the Cal South insurance coverage? Real question. I honestly don't know.
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A tournament that runs without insurance is basically gambling on player health and the moment you hear of a TD creating an unsanctioned tournament you should run far, far, far away and not look back.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
Covers the club and coach just in case your child gets injured or gets covid and you believe it was a coach negligence or club negligence. Welcome to the USA where there’s a lawsuit to happen the moment you walk out of your house.
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notintheface said:
A tournament that runs without insurance is basically gambling on player health and the moment you hear of a TD creating an unsanctioned tournament you should run far, far, far away and not look back.
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Yes, heaven forbid we take individual responsibility for our own choices.
 
oh canada said:
Newsom just announced a non-essential travel ban that will likely kick in throughout the state in the next few days. Can't see Surf encouraging families to disobey this state order, regardless of its merits or effectiveness or lack thereof.
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I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if you could even get a travel permit from Cal South?
 
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