Surf Cup's Fate

oh canada said:
Before the vote, the Head of Phoenix Parks said, "There are no field allocations beyond December." So, either Surf didn't ask to reserve fields in city of Phoenix (eg, Reach 11) or they asked but were not yet given permission. If other cities are also holding back on field commitments due to uncertainties of Covid contagion, it's possible Surf may not have any fields in any city 100% confirmed (Mesa, Scottsdale, etc.)

The council's epidemiologist said her recommendation is "no tournaments".

Still awaiting the final vote.
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I think it's a done deal - nothing official yet. This may be the saddest example of a group of people governing from a position of ignorance and pre-conceived bias.
 
happy9 said:
I think it's a done deal - nothing official yet. This may be the saddest example of a group of people governing from a position of ignorance and pre-conceived bias.
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Sad indeed. At least Councilman Jim Waring was able to bring some semblance of balance to the discussion. Doesn't look like it will matter in the end though
 
Kicker4Life said:
Following in the footsteps of California
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Yep, just the city of phoenix. The complete lack of understanding in regards to problem solving and administrating is woefully embarrassing. Somehow, canceling a soccer tournament is going to stop people from coming to the state. This is low hanging fruit for a group people who are incredibly under qualified to handle the crisis at hand.

We will see how the other cities react. Plenty of events upcoming in the City of Scottsdale that drive revenue.
 
Passed 7-2. All youth sports tournaments--not just out-of-state teams-- cancelled throughout City of Phoenix until levels drop down to September 6th.
 
RedHawk said:
7-2 vote. Phoenix tournaments are cancelled as of Dec. 3rd
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Right. Now, question is where did Surf Cup request fields. Someone on these forums should be able to relay that info. With PHX making this decision, there will be added pressure on neighboring cities to do the same.
 
There you go, the city of Phoenix, through their courage and innovation, have successfully launched a plan to begin the eradication of the rona by not allowing organized soccer games on city fields.

I would have more respect for them if they took on local business owners. Oh well.
 
oh canada said:
Right. Now, question is where did Surf Cup request fields. Someone on these forums should be able to relay that info. With PHX making this decision, there will be added pressure on neighboring cities to do the same.
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I don't think that's necessarily true, but we will see. Different cultures between cities in Arizona that are in close proximity. Time will tell.

Each city will take their situation into account. I think the county will stay out of it. If they get involved, then all bets are off.
 
This move is rather transparent though. They wait until after the Thanksgiving tournaments to cash in before they make this decision. How many tournaments are there really in the month of December?
 
oh canada said:
Right. Now, question is where did Surf Cup request fields. Someone on these forums should be able to relay that info. With PHX making this decision, there will be added pressure on neighboring cities to do the same.
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For the city of phoenix - Reach, Rose Mofford, and likely a field complex further north of Reach (small, 4 fields maybe, but under lights).

Total of 25 fields?
 
oh canada said:
Right. Now, question is where did Surf Cup request fields. Someone on these forums should be able to relay that info. With PHX making this decision, there will be added pressure on neighboring cities to do the same.
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Surf Youngers - Scottsdale Soccer Complex - Girls & Boys
Surf Olders - Scottsdale Soccer Complex Boys / Reach 11 Girls (I'd assume there is a contingency plan for this)
If Scottsdale were to follow it looks like there would be a big problem.
 
Lightning Red said:
Surf Youngers - Scottsdale Soccer Complex - Girls & Boys
Surf Olders - Scottsdale Soccer Complex Boys / Reach 11 Girls (I'd assume there is a contingency plan for this)
If Scottsdale were to follow it looks like there would be a big problem.
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Right! I think the other cities will follow suit
 
Luis Andres said:
Wether Surf cancels or does not cancel, we keep on playing. I just found tournaments happening in California this December and January on Indian lands. Also there is the Kandy Cup tournament this January 9th aim to protest against governor greasy Newsom. I would welcome you to join the protest by playing that day. It’s all about organizing among ourselves now. Who needs these big tournaments when we can self organize as parents and teams here ourselves.View attachment 9564
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What tournaments are being played on Indian lands? I heard about that, but can't find anything about them.
 
Lightning Red said:
Surf Youngers - Scottsdale Soccer Complex - Girls & Boys
Surf Olders - Scottsdale Soccer Complex Boys / Reach 11 Girls (I'd assume there is a contingency plan for this)
If Scottsdale were to follow it looks like there would be a big problem.
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No Reach 11 is a big problem. It has 18 fields, all under lights. SSC has 10 fields, but only 4 under lights. There are other fields in the metro area and Surf is not competing with any local tournaments. Logistically harder, but still doable.
 
Lightning Red said:
Surf Youngers - Scottsdale Soccer Complex - Girls & Boys
Surf Olders - Scottsdale Soccer Complex Boys / Reach 11 Girls (I'd assume there is a contingency plan for this)
If Scottsdale were to follow it looks like there would be a big problem.
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Good info, thank you. So yes, Surf will need to find another venue to accommodate older Girls teams. Reach 11 is a large complex (15+ fields), so likely they will need to find several other parks in the metro area. It won't be as easy as it seems assuming other sports tournaments are scrambling now too (remember, it's not just soccer).

And this all assumes that Scottsdale doesn't follow suit. But with infections and hospitalizations skyrocketing--and a clear desire from the local medical community to shut these large events down--it's more than likely they will do the same. Let's see if we can find out the next Scottsdale City Council meeting date.
 
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