Merry Christmas bro and I'm happy for your DD. I got my DD new earrings and piercings for xmas. Enjoy the times at the youngers because before you know it, they get older
Surf Cup - Get Your Refund Now
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Scott m Shurson
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I'm not dismissing it. I have daughters. I'm saying background checks aren't some magical filter that protect a kid because someone hasn't done it before or been caught doing it before. I'm talking about making sound decisions, as a parent, and not blaming everyone with deep pockets. Something we as a society have let get way out of hand the last 20 years. i.e. - the McDonald's example people talked about last week.
If you want dismissive, go review EOTL's dissertation on how female soccer players at Cal are soft.
whatithink
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You are being very selective wrt the article linked. Sure, background checks are not a panacea but they weren't even carried out. Maybe they would have caught this person, and maybe not, but they should been done at a minimum.
I've no doubt the parents are probably haunted by the decisions they made, but I've also no doubt that both organizations, youth sports orgs, failed miserably in their roles. They should absolutely be held to account for that.
I have zero time for frivolous law suits and people suing for any reason whatsoever. But in this instance, the parent were 100% right to sue.
Let's see how Mesa handles parents - league play didn't allow parents inside the complexes (Red Mountain and Eagles Park for sure, don't know about Quail Run).
Gilbert and Mesa definitely didn't want to oppose the baseball mafia, source of steady $$$ throughout the year. But those tournaments are normally attended by local teams.
whatithink
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Mesa has been all over the place. I've been outside fences at Red Mountain & Quail Run, but at Desert Cup, Red Mountain allowed parents back inside for some reason. I'd think it will be outside only, but who knows!
Any youth service organization should get a LiveScan background check, references checked (particularly from any prior youth organization employers) and a Google search for each and every employee and volunteer whether they come into contact with kids or not. To not do so is highly negligent. The choice to sue the organization is up to the victim. Prosecution of the individual is highly recommended, or I should say reporting of the perpetrator is highly recommended since prosecution is up to the law authorities. That would be my priority over suing the organization since these predators will get away with it time and time again if not prosecuted.
US Soccer and Cal South Soccer required every parent to sign a waiver for their kid for Covid thus getting sick still isn't covered.
Scott m Shurson
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I was actually speaking in generalities... not even article specific. The problem is that frivolous lawsuits, just like bullshit sexual harassment charges, take credibility away from the real victims because we become ambivalent at some point. When you see someone sue the homeowner for a slip and fall on the sidewalk, the builder, the city, the concrete company, 2 neighbors that witnessed it, the yard sprinkler manufacturer, the gardener, a bird that shit on it the week before, etc., it becomes ridiculous. That said, I'm all for legitimate accountability.
First, polls show 75-85% of people are now wearing masks. Second, New York did a trace and found 70% of all cases are spread in the house, where people don't wear masks. Third, 15 times as likely to get the Virus from being inside as opposed to outside.
Masks don't work 100%. Not even close. I recently put in a rule at work that all conversations need to be less than 1 minute long because we had 3 cases spread from people working inside, with mask on, talking for about 5-10 minutes on work related items.
Our last tourney parents were 100% staying outside or in hotel room, with mask usage at the field at all times.
We made two stops last time at a Home Depot and a Target for restroom breaks. I have a weakness, I love polar pops.Satire 100% on the pee diapers. I can hold it but not my wife or dd. I yell at my dd for not drinking enough water. We have to stop every couple hours. We did two drives and it was 105. It's all about the water
No, you are making an issue of something I did not ask. I am asking about tournaments. Does anyone have any experience with a tournament's insurance coming into play. Based on the lack of responses, I would say the answer is no.It is a little tougher than you are acknowledging due to the age of the participants (minors), and confidentiality agreements of settlements.
I am not a lawyer, but as someone who has been in insurance their entire adult life, I can tell you that everyone gets sued when the lawsuit hits.
For an example of a case:
Excerpt:JANE DOE MINOR v. UNITED STATES YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION INC (2017) | FindLaw
Case opinion for CA Court of Appeal JANE DOE MINOR v. UNITED STATES YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION INC. Read the Court's full decision on FindLaw.caselaw.findlaw.com
"...Fabrizio also spent extensive time alone with plaintiff on June 11 and 12, 2011. He drove her alone to and from a tournament in Santa Cruz, even though her parents attended 30 minutes of the final game. During the tournament, Fabrizio took plaintiff alone for two walks. After parents and girls speculated about whether there was romantic or sexual activity between plaintiff and Fabrizio, plaintiff became upset by the girls' comments and told the coaches and the team parent, T.B. M.R., a coach, asked plaintiff whether she and Fabrizio had engaged in a sexual act. The coaches later held two team meetings to discuss the comments and tried to get the girls to apologize to plaintiff..."
I added the emphasis. The tournament organizer may have been let off at some point, but I have not doubt they were an original party to the lawsuit and incurred defense costs.
Had a great view during desert cup despite not being on the field. Didn’t bother us at all
I parked in the front and had AC on. Great seats. Desert Hound even came by ((with a mask on)) and said hi. Super nice fields. Happy say's you might have some dead grass and you will. This is winter and soccer must be played on all types of fields.
whatithink
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Ditto, my views were fine.
Jose has returned
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if the recruiter coach sees a kid and goes back to the college head coach and tells them hey i have a kid you should look at........but oops parent took advice from socal soccer forum and decided not to make a video. Make your video they won't know you are there if they can't see you
Please explain to me how insurance works. I will go and get my popcorn.
Jose has returned
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please let this be true
Jose has returned
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grandma should wear a mask too
well, yes. And meet her outside.
Or, see her at Easter, by which time she will have been vaccinated.
Jose has returned
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nothing is guaranteed in this world. many elderly don't see their family as it is they would rather risk covid than miss out on a chance to see family.