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MacDre said:
I call BS. There’s no way you can know this with absolute certainty. But, I’ve heard from reliable sources that they’ve recently had a pleasant experience submitting video to coaches.

So can we say SOME coaches but not ALL? In fact, I recently read a SA article where Radcliffe from Stanford said that he wasn’t reviewing videos.
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Ratcliffe, from Stanford, isn't viewing video from 99% of us in a normal year.
 
Keepermom2 said:
Clearly my post related to the article "Wild West....." covers the tournament issue and the risk of not having insurance. I am guessing you are not in the legal industry because if you were, you would know how many law suits get filed for things that don't make the news but can be costly to organizations.
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You keep skirting the issue. I know tournaments should be covered. My question is do any of you have an example of a tournaments insurance being used. It is really not a tough question.
 
crush said:
We did ECNL Showcase and went something like this.
Drive to AZ and never stop. Pee diapers come in great use. If you got a BM, your SOL if I'm driving and you better hold it.
Check in by myself. Everyone stays in car. I come back and we take the stairs up. Go right to room and stay there.
Wife drives out to pick up grub and we eat it inside our room. We watch movies and sleep
Wake up and grab & go fruits and snakes and play ball.
Repeat for three days
Drive back in pee diapers and hope everyone can hold it until we get home.
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This thread might be crap but condiser investing in a PETT portable camp toilet with the bio bags. The clean waste go anywhere brand REI sells folds up nice and is compact. Diapers not really great for your urinary tract.
 
GT45 said:
You keep skirting the issue. I know tournaments should be covered. My question is do any of you have an example of a tournaments insurance being used. It is really not a tough question.
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Probably hard to find because non-disclosure statements were signed as part of the settlement(s).
 
Here are a subset of a sample quotes from college coach emails that lead me to believe that coaches want video:

"Based on what we have seen of your soccer ability so far, we have identified you as a potential top prospect for the program and we want to take this opportunity to connect with you and express our interest in you as a student-athlete here... " Note that we've only sent highlight videos.

"Because our in-person scouting opportunities have been and will continue to be greatly impacted by the pandemic, highlight videos and game footage is now an important source of scouting for our coaches."
 
lafalafa said:
This thread might be crap but condiser investing in a PETT portable camp toilet with the bio bags. The clean waste go anywhere brand REI sells folds up nice and is compact. Diapers not really great for your urinary tract.
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I read somewhere where a jealous lover who worked for NASA drove across country in space diapers to catch the cheater. Pee diapers was not the right example.

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crush said:
We did ECNL Showcase and went something like this.
Drive to AZ and never stop. Pee diapers come in great use. If you got a BM, your SOL if I'm driving and you better hold it.
Check in by myself. Everyone stays in car. I come back and we take the stairs up. Go right to room and stay there.
Wife drives out to pick up grub and we eat it inside our room. We watch movies and sleep
Wake up and grab & go fruits and snakes and play ball.
Repeat for three days
Drive back in pee diapers and hope everyone can hold it until we get home.
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The "pee diapers" part is just you being "you" again, right? You're not that cray?
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Satire 100% on the pee diapers. I can hold it but not my wife or dd. I yell at my dd for not drinking enough water. We have to stop every couple hours. We did two drives and it was 105. It's all about the water :)
 
lafalafa said:
This thread might be crap but condiser investing in a PETT portable camp toilet with the bio bags. The clean waste go anywhere brand REI sells folds up nice and is compact. Diapers not really great for your urinary tract.
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Who says you don't get useful information on this forum anymore and that its just arguing about Covid and politics. Of course this tidbit isn't something I really needed to, or cared to, learn about. (Actually JK some of the overnight floats I do require a portable toilet).
 
MacDre said:
I am listening and learning. I have actually walked my position back. But, my objection was that I think “all coaches” is an exaggeration. I cited a recent SA article to support my position.
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True...nothing is 100.000%. However every Program has staff that is responsible for recruiting (some schools more than others) and those people are in charge of reviewing video and pain the info up the the Head Coach. So although Radcliffe may not be reviewing video, someone on the staff is.

I’m not saying you can’t get recruited without sending videos. But I am saying good luck getting recruited by an out of state school without having something to market your player.
 
Kicker4Life said:
True...nothing is 100.000%. However every Program has staff that is responsible for recruiting (some schools more than others) and those people are in charge of reviewing video and pain the info up the the Head Coach. So although Radcliffe may not be reviewing video, someone on the staff is.

I’m not saying you can’t get recruited without sending videos. But I am saying good luck getting recruited by an out of state school without having something to market your player.
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100% correct. Check this out. Talked to old club dad ((you know him but he wants this info on the down low)) and his kid 100% got a deal because of the video. It's an introduction to form a potential recruit who might be interested in their program. I was hoping they would "see" my player but with all this Rona, I'm on board and 100% support vides. If your a scout and not watching every video for at least the first 5 seconds, you will get fired. MLB scouts go everywhere and have tryouts for old washed up like Jim. You never will know if you dont take a peak.

 
GT45 said:
You keep skirting the issue. I know tournaments should be covered. My question is do any of you have an example of a tournaments insurance being used. It is really not a tough question.
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It is a little tougher than you are acknowledging due to the age of the participants (minors), and confidentiality agreements of settlements.

I am not a lawyer, but as someone who has been in insurance their entire adult life, I can tell you that everyone gets sued when the lawsuit hits.
For an example of a case:

JANE DOE MINOR v. UNITED STATES YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION INC (2017) | FindLaw

Case opinion for CA Court of Appeal JANE DOE MINOR v. UNITED STATES YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION INC. Read the Court's full decision on FindLaw.
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Excerpt:

"...Fabrizio also spent extensive time alone with plaintiff on June 11 and 12, 2011. He drove her alone to and from a tournament in Santa Cruz, even though her parents attended 30 minutes of the final game. During the tournament, Fabrizio took plaintiff alone for two walks. After parents and girls speculated about whether there was romantic or sexual activity between plaintiff and Fabrizio, plaintiff became upset by the girls' comments and told the coaches and the team parent, T.B. M.R., a coach, asked plaintiff whether she and Fabrizio had engaged in a sexual act. The coaches later held two team meetings to discuss the comments and tried to get the girls to apologize to plaintiff..."

I added the emphasis. The tournament organizer may have been let off at some point, but I have not doubt they were an original party to the lawsuit and incurred defense costs.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
Sounds like the AZ cities are ready for Surf Cup

Some Valley cities continue hosting youth sports tournaments despite virus surge

With COVID-19 cases in Arizona surging, some Valley cities continue hosting youth sports tournaments that often bring in out of state visitors.
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Scottsdale pulled half their fields and Mesa says that if protocols are not followed they'll shut down the fields. Surf better police their youngers to get 100% compliance. I always find the youngers parents are much more zealous and vociferous.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
People will sue for anything if it means free money. No background check? How many 1st time offenders passed the "background check"?
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A pretty dismissive response to a very specific example of an actual pedophile (no background checks by 2 separate youth soccer orgs, known breaches of AYSO policies) who got caught and convicted (on a plea) to 8 years.

So the parents shouldn't sue? So they should allow these orgs off? So these orgs should be allowed to continue doing this shit and putting other children at risk because there are no repercussions?

You must be trolling.
 
whatithink said:
I always find the youngers parents are much more zealous and vociferous.
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Your dame right. I had a dad out of Lake Elsinore who wanted to fight me after we got our asses kicked at my dd first ever State Fair. It was only Governors division too. This guy thought he was the sideline coach. He coached his son's AYSO Select All Star team and he thought that qualified him to be a soccer coach. So the whole team had to listen to him all season and I finally had had enough. We were losing our last game 6-0 at the start of the second half. This is U9 so no come back down 6. He starts telling my goat to do this and that and try harder. I told him to, PLEASE STOP COACHING MY DD!!!! He came over to me and said he also had enough of my whining all season because out team sucked and we lost all the time. That was my only complaining during the season, that we sucked!!! Thank God JL saw her play the day before and called me and off to Legends we went :)
 
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