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[Keepermom2]

Really? Give me an example or two of when this insurance has come into play?

“Insurance carriers are so hesitant right now because they’re under siege from all of these COVID claims from every line of business,” said Lori Crispo, area president for RPS Bollinger Sports & Leisure, which is the insurance administrator for US Lacrosse. “I can’t get answers on what specifically I can tell clients they’re covered for. It would all depend on the allegation. It’s the wild, wild west.”

Added note related to school districts:
"To the best of his knowledge, Gaby said insurance companies’ policies with school districts do not cover communicable diseases. RPS Bollinger’s school programs do not, at this time, have a communicable disease exclusion."

“That’s a big problem,” Gaby said. “All of the liability is on the school district. The insurance industry is not even going to entertain a claim arriving on COVID-19. If a child comes back to play and somehow gets sick and parents say, ‘It happened because you let my child play sports with another child,’ the insurance company is going to say, ‘Sorry, it’s not a covered risk.’ You’re handling the legal defense on your own.”

‘Wild west’: Youth sports providers weigh liability risks - Project Play

With much of the country opening back up, sport organizations are evaluating when to return to play. How travel, community and high school sports do so rely in part on a legal question: What level of liability risk can an organizer afford to accept?

www.aspenprojectplay.org

 

[dad4]

why cant we do both? Just wear a mask when visiting old folks and stay 6 feet apart right?

Masks reduce transmission by maybe 40%. They do not eliminate it. Same goes for 6 feet. Good things to do, but not perfect.

Active social life, then 6 feet and masks when around grandma, still puts grandma at elevated risk.

 

[GT45]

Sounds like a great business for out of work coaches. I still doubt these videos will be reviewed.

Clearly you are not involved with college recruiting then. All coaches, including the top programs in the country, are absolutely watching these videos.

 

[Desert Hound]

Masks reduce transmission by maybe 40%. They do not eliminate it. Same goes for 6 feet. Good things to do, but not perfect.

Active social life, then 6 feet and masks when around grandma, still puts grandma at elevated risk.

Again make the choice.

If you are going to be out and about and have grandparents stay away from them. OR if you want to hang out with the grandparents, dont go out and about. This is where the choices should be made.

That is a much better solution vs what you want to do...close biz, limit education and so on.

 

[GT45]

here you go and it is 4 days ago...

Lawsuit alleges prominent SoCal youth soccer organizations ignored child protection policies in sex abuse case

The family of a young soccer player is suing prominent Los Angeles-area soccer organizations over allegations of negligence that led to the sexual abuse of a young boy, San Diego-based law firm Est…

ktla.com

I meant for a tournament. The issue being discussed was about a tournament being covered by insurance. No one has brought an example forward yet.

 

[crush]

Clearly you are not involved with college recruiting then. All coaches, including the top programs in the country, are absolutely watching these videos.

I had one say, "thank you for this high light reel. Please send more and we will look to have you to our campus for a nice private campus tour next year." You need good, solid, and fresh video clips from end of 2020. They need to know who is ready and willing to compete and stay sharp and ready. These folks on here telling us to take hikes and go skate boarding in the street are cray cray and have no clue what's it like having a16 and up goat not signed yet. Get a video now!!!!

 

[Keepermom2]

Masks reduce transmission by maybe 40%. They do not eliminate it. Same goes for 6 feet. Good things to do, but not perfect.

Active social life, then 6 feet and masks when around grandma, still puts grandma at elevated risk.

really...study after study has shown otherwise. I am perplexed why you are drumming this up again....

July 10, 2020 -- Wearing a facial covering not only curbs the spread of the coronavirus but reduces a mask wearer's risk of catching the virus by 65%, said Dean Blumberg, MD, chief of pediatric infectious diseases at UC Davis Children's Hospital.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200710/face-masks-reduce-covid-risk-by-65-percent

Per CDC:

• In a study of 124 Beijing households with > 1 laboratory-confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 infection, mask use by the index patient and family contacts before the index patient developed symptoms reduced secondary transmission within the households by 79%.33
• A retrospective case-control study from Thailand documented that, among more than 1,000 persons interviewed as part of contact tracing investigations, those who reported having always worn a mask during high-risk exposures experienced a greater than 70% reduced risk of acquiring infection compared with persons who did not wear masks under these circumstances.34
• A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments, found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70% reduced risk.35

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

 

[MacDre]

All coaches

I call BS. There’s no way you can know this with absolute certainty. But, I’ve heard from reliable sources that they’ve recently had a pleasant experience submitting video to coaches.

So can we say SOME coaches but not ALL? In fact, I recently read a SA article where Radcliffe from Stanford said that he wasn’t reviewing videos.

 

[Keepermom2]

I meant for a tournament. The issue being discussed was about a tournament being covered by insurance. No one has brought an example forward yet.

Clearly my post related to the article "Wild West....." covers the tournament issue and the risk of not having insurance. I am guessing you are not in the legal industry because if you were, you would know how many law suits get filed for things that don't make the news but can be costly to organizations.

 

[Soccerfan2]

I call BS. There’s no way you can know this with absolute certainty. But, I’ve heard from reliable sources that they’ve recently had a pleasant experience submitting video to coaches.

So can we say SOME coaches but not ALL? In fact, I recently read a SA article where Radcliffe from Stanford said that he wasn’t reviewing videos.

Wouldn’t you get more out of this forum if you listened and learned from people who are further along in the process than you, who have actual experience with the things you’re just shooting off from the hip about?

 

[MSK357]

Masks reduce transmission by maybe 40%. They do not eliminate it. Same goes for 6 feet. Good things to do, but not perfect.

Active social life, then 6 feet and masks when around grandma, still puts grandma at elevated risk.

So would you say you are contributing to the "possible" spread of COVID every time you leave your house even when wearing a mask? I.E. grocery store, getting gas in your car, etc. You should stay in your house and start planting food in your back yard or else in EOTLs words, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE! RACIST! Or maybe we live life and use mitigations and accept the risk. We dont want to be facists and force people to be be locked in their homes now do we?

 

[dad4]

really...study after study has shown otherwise. I am perplexed why you are drumming this up again....

July 10, 2020 -- Wearing a facial covering not only curbs the spread of the coronavirus but reduces a mask wearer's risk of catching the virus by 65%, said Dean Blumberg, MD, chief of pediatric infectious diseases at UC Davis Children's Hospital.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200710/face-masks-reduce-covid-risk-by-65-percent

Per CDC:

• In a study of 124 Beijing households with > 1 laboratory-confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 infection, mask use by the index patient and family contacts before the index patient developed symptoms reduced secondary transmission within the households by 79%.33
• A retrospective case-control study from Thailand documented that, among more than 1,000 persons interviewed as part of contact tracing investigations, those who reported having always worn a mask during high-risk exposures experienced a greater than 70% reduced risk of acquiring infection compared with persons who did not wear masks under these circumstances.34
• A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments, found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70% reduced risk.35

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Even at 79% effective, an indoor gathering with grandma is a bad idea. That 21% is important, too.

 

[TOSDCI]

Because it’s laborious, tedious, and boring. On second thought, the coaches may review videos if and when they need help falling asleep.

Actually, I know some Juniors and Seniors that are going to play at Surf for more game footage. They have already communicated with coaches. The coach is interested but wants to watch them play. So yes, I do think coaches will be watching. Will there be the same number of coaches watching virtually as they typically do live, absolutely not.

 

[TOSDCI]

You actually think 99% of parents who are willing to travel during a pandemic are going to eat dinner in the hotel room?

Or you’re just disagreeing with me on instinct?

Read your sentence about people being social, then tell me whether 99% of parents will eat dinner in the hotel room.

Both my kids are playing in Surf and yes, we will be eating in the hotel room. I will be watching from the sidelines, socially distant with my mask on.

 

[crush]

Both my kids are playing in Surf and yes, we will be eating in the hotel room. I will be watching from the sidelines, socially distant with my mask on.

We did ECNL Showcase and went something like this.
Drive to AZ and never stop. Pee diapers come in great use. If you got a BM, your SOL if I'm driving and you better hold it.
Check in by myself. Everyone stays in car. I come back and we take the stairs up. Go right to room and stay there.
Wife drives out to pick up grub and we eat it inside our room. We watch movies and sleep
Wake up and grab & go fruits and snakes and play ball.
Repeat for three days
Drive back in pee diapers and hope everyone can hold it until we get home.

 

[TOSDCI]

We did ECNL Showcase and went something like this.
Drive to AZ and never stop. Pee diapers come in great use. If you got a BM, your SOL if I'm driving and you better hold it.
Check in by myself. Everyone stays in car. I come back and we take the stairs up. Go right to room and stay there.
Wife drives out to pick up grub and we eat it inside our room. We watch movies and sleep
Wake up and grab & go fruits and snakes and play ball.
Repeat for three days
Drive back in pee diapers and hope everyone can hold it until we get home.

You lost me at Pee diapers....that's a hard no!

 

[watfly]

I have a tinfoil hat theory based on a few emails-- Surf is not going to publish the schedule and is only emailing teams their fields and times.

That will be very telling if they don't. If you're going to host a tournament under these conditions, own it. By not publishing the schedule you're kinda admitting that what your doing is not kosher.

 

[crush]

You lost me at Pee diapers....that's a hard no!

Tryin to show dad4 that I took measure to keep everyone safe in Blyhthe. I got a car rental that gave 400+ Miles on a tank. I did my part is my point and it's still not enough.

 

[dad4]

Tryin to show dad4 that I took measure to keep everyone safe in Blyhthe. I got a car rental that gave 400+ Miles on a tank. I did my part is my point and it's still not enough.

If the diapers work for you, fine. Glad the good people of Blythe are safe.

It’s more important to just wear the mask and avoid the restaurant and the hotel bar.

 

[MacDre]

Wouldn’t you get more out of this forum if you listened and learned from people who are further along in the process than you, who have actual experience with the things you’re just shooting off from the hip about?

I am listening and learning. I have actually walked my position back. But, my objection was that I think “all coaches” is an exaggeration. I cited a recent SA article to support my position.