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tjinaz said:
I didn't think the goal right now was a cure only to "flatten the curve". Herd immunity like Flu.
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Do you realize that the reason there is herd immunity for the flu is because there are flu vaccines, while there is no vaccine for covid? 60-70% of the population has to be immune to the virus for there to be herd immunity, and nobody knows yet if a single infection to the virus gives the infected person immunity.
 
wc_baller said:
Do you realize that the reason there is herd immunity for the flu is because there are flu vaccines, while there is no vaccine for covid? 60-70% of the population has to be immune to the virus for there to be herd immunity, and nobody knows yet if a single infection to the virus gives the infected person immunity.
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So we stay locked down until one is found? Most of the yearly Flu vaccines are not a silver bullet anyway they wildly vary from year to year based on that years strain. I don't think that is how it works. As there is no vaccine the point of the lockdown was to gradually expose people as we cannot control the infection. The point is to not overload the healthcare system with mass exposure, but to do it over time. Even without a vaccine people will develop defenses. People are being exposed and infected all the time only 1 in 5 is actually showing symptoms. We cant stay inside forever or until a vaccine is found.
 
Happy Mother's Day​

I would like to give a shout out to my adopted mom ((RIP Warrior Woman)). The great Bette had four of her own and then fostered and adopted 8 other kids from all over the country in the 60s. Talk about Eight is Enough. You taught me the strength of a woman. Also, a big thank you to my birth mother, Miss Kirk. I heard what you had to endure and many other woman had to go through some similar sh*t as well back in the 60s.

 
dad4 said:
We are quarantining healthy people because we don’t know who is contagious.

We are quarantining young people because it is impossible to divide the entire society along age lines, where the young mingle and the old quarantine.

If you opened it up for the young, you would get a mostly non-fatal explosion in covid-19 among the young. There would be leaks, since some young people work with older people. You would then have a fatal explosion of covid-19 among the old.

You are right it isn’t the last virus. Find a cloth mask you like. Buy a few copies.

Can we go back to wishing our kids could play soccer again?
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i said quarantine the old and those that need it. i never said dont wash your hand wear a face mask or not do social distance when you can. If you get a explosion of non fatal cases you also get herd immunity which wont happen until numbers indicate that. The object was to flatten the curve. It has been flattened the hospitals are not only not over whelmed they are empty of all the elective surgeries people need. People need to go back to work. I take it you dont own a business that is determined as a non essential? or you are getting money from somewhere else
 
Jose has returned said:
i said quarantine the old and those that need it. i never said dont wash your hand wear a face mask or not do social distance when you can. If you get a explosion of non fatal cases you also get herd immunity which wont happen until numbers indicate that. The object was to flatten the curve. It has been flattened the hospitals are not only not over whelmed they are empty of all the elective surgeries people need. People need to go back to work. I take it you dont own a business that is determined as a non essential? or you are getting money from somewhere else
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Thank you for your comment, well said. I don't know about anyone else but I kind of think I'm essential and I don't appreciate being labeled "non-essential". All I want is to get my business up and running again so I can provide for my family. Herd immunity is what we need not more and continued lock down.
 
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Soccer4evr said:
Thank you for your comment, well said. I don't know about anyone else but I kind of think I'm essential and I don't appreciate being labeled "non-essential". All I want is to get my business up and running again so I can provide for my family. Herd immunity is what we need not more and continued lock down.
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Herd immunity by vaccine is just fine.

Herd immunity by infection has problems.
You need about a 70% infection rate to get herd immunity. (John Hopkins).
The disease is about 0.4% to 0.65% fatal in the overall population.
Those two combined mean that about .28 to .45% of the population would die if we tried to get herd immunity by increasing infections. (about 1 to 1.6 million people)

To my knowledge, there is no third path to herd immunity. Wait for a vaccine, or watch it ballon and see somewhere around 1M dead.

If evidence of immunity in Lombardy or NYC develops, that is a different story. So far, the medical journals are not making any such claims.
 
I also believe soccer is essential to the coaches, clubs and most importantly, the girls. I will drop off my child and take a walk at the great park for 1 hr. I support all businesses to open somehow and someway.


"Marijuana retailers in the city of Los Angeles also kept their doors open despite an initial lack of clarity from the governor, who didn't mention them in his order."
This is 100% essential. Time to open so everyone can go back to work. I know who really likes this kind of break and that's not why this country was founded. It's time to come out of our holes and live life again, beginning Memorial Day Weekend. Then July 4th we can declare our Independence from Corona. No more fear of the unknown. Maybe a little different but let's start living. My buddy is pissed too. Single, late 40's. Made over $150,000 last year. Was on pace for $175,000 this year, but Corona came instead. He's had to take a 10% cut off the top on commission and a 25% cut in salary. He has to work to pay his bills and his business help people find great jobs. No stimulus check or bail out for him. He's making less and working twice as hard. His roommate is a young cool guy who was layed off. He's making $5K a month plus his $1200 stimulus check. So April he made $7K to stay home. My friend is risking death from Corona and is making less. This is whacked!!! BTW, he does NOT need to look for a job, the guy kicking it on the couch in HB getting hippie lettuce deleivered as he waits out this virus. He's so afraid he won't go back to work until a vaccine is made. He walks to the beach to surf and then chills it on his porch. WTF is that? At least let him make some mask or something to help out.

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dad4 said:
Herd immunity by vaccine is just fine.

Herd immunity by infection has problems.
You need about a 70% infection rate to get herd immunity. (John Hopkins).
The disease is about 0.4% to 0.65% fatal in the overall population.
Those two combined mean that about .28 to .45% of the population would die if we tried to get herd immunity by increasing infections. (about 1 to 1.6 million people)

To my knowledge, there is no third path to herd immunity. Wait for a vaccine, or watch it ballon and see somewhere around 1M dead.

If evidence of immunity in Lombardy or NYC develops, that is a different story. So far, the medical journals are not making any such claims.
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Thats a choice people have to make. If you are scared, continue to quarantine yourself. If you feel you need to work to survive and provide for your family, take the less than 1% fatality rate and continue to live life.
 
SoccerGuru said:
I have heard that argument before and if you are a good player and it means the college scout walking over a few fields at a showcase to watch, I believe they would do that. However, if you aren’t at the showcases and it will require a coach to make a special trip to your game or practice, it would have to be a really special player. I’m not saying it can’t happen or won’t happen, just saying it’s tougher that way. I hope all the girls make it to where they want to go and I do hope Beach and legends are successful, it’s better for Socal soccer. But it’s an uphill battle and really unfortunate but common sense says one path is easier and the other is a lot riskier. If drive time, cost, loyalty, etc come into play....that changes things a bit. But from a very outside the situation look, it’s very clear that those two clubs have a few tough years ahead.
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Because of the location of Beach games and Legends games, a lot of So. Cal. coaches show up. I have seen it happen a lot (we are not part of Beach or Legends).
 
MSK357 said:
Thats a choice people have to make. If you are scared, continue to quarantine yourself. If you feel you need to work to survive and provide for your family, take the less than 1% fatality rate and continue to live life.
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It definitely is a choice. Just like saving and having at least six months income in an emergency fund, even if it takes a few years to achieve. There is always a way to save no matter your income.
 
Giesbock said:
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I hear a ton about Beach and Legends, but not a peep about the other former OC DA clubs making it into ECNL. Is there that big a gap that everyone expected B&L to get a shot at ECNL but not the other GA clubs?
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Teams are waiting to see how many teams Blues ravages and picking up the players Blues drops. Probably no more teams being picked up for ECNL.
 
Jose has returned said:
why are we quarantining healthy people? lock down the elderly and those with other morbidities. This isn't the first virus and won't be the last.
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And why are we handing out food to people who drive expensive cars and don't seem to know how to save enough money for even 8 weeks of food? I would bet 80% of the people getting free handouts have more than one cell phone in the family and maybe two or more TVs. It is all about setting priorities. Questions that should be asked. Maybe the covid-19 pandemic will help people set up budgets and savings plans for future emergencies. Instead of three beers when out to eat, have just one or two, save the difference. So many small ways to save that add up over time.
 
Copa9 said:
Because of the location of Beach games and Legends games, a lot of So. Cal. coaches show up. I have seen it happen a lot (we are not part of Beach or Legends).
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But wasn’t that when they were DA and playing teams like surf, beach, legends, real and other good clubs? Will they show up to see players play ecrl?
 
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