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Surf Zombie said:
Which Midwest clubs do you think should be added to improve the travel situation?
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Travel isn't good for either league in the Midwest, and both leagues have their share of impostors. GAL league now has more members, but it also stretches a bit farther east to west than ECNL. I think any reduction in travel will be a bit of an illusion and will come in the form of clubs scheduling more games on neutral territory on fields located between the two clubs' home fields. I've heard some talk of that for both leagues.

There is just is no escaping how ridiculous it is for Detroit and Chicago to each have one ECNL franchise and other major metro areas (smaller than Chicago) have 5 or more ECNL clubs, especially when Lavers is out there talking about adding clubs to reduce travel burden.
 
gotothebushes said:
I believe Quakes are now Bay Area FC! And yes they have some very talented players over there. They have a tough decision to make but talent always finds talent and they should be ok.
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I've never heard of Bay Area FC. Do you mean FC Barcelona Bay Area?
 
ChalkOnYourBoots said:
Travel isn't good for either league in the Midwest, and both leagues have their share of impostors. GAL league now has more members, but it also stretches a bit farther east to west than ECNL. I think any reduction in travel will be a bit of an illusion and will come in the form of clubs scheduling more games on neutral territory on fields located between the two clubs' home fields. I've heard some talk of that for both leagues.

There is just is no escaping how ridiculous it is for Detroit and Chicago to each have one ECNL franchise and other major metro areas (smaller than Chicago) have 5 or more ECNL clubs, especially when Lavers is out there talking about adding clubs to reduce travel burden.
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Lavers could reduce the travel burden for everyone by offering ECNL membership to all GA clubs. Solves midwest and comes close to solving mountain.

Of course, that would mean putting the girls first, so it isn’t too likely.
 
timbuck said:
Here’s an idea- take those 2 “super teams” in AZ and Vegas. (Or any other state with only 1 or 2 ecnl teams) and break those 36 players up. Sprinkle them on to 6 local teams with a few decent players. All of the sudden- you have a competitive local league. If you need to- create an all star team for summer tournaments and travel all that you want.
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Genius! and I mean that sincerely.
 
Desert Hound said:
No it wouldnt.

Phx to Denver is a 15 hour drive. 900 miles away.
Phx to SLC is 10-12 hours drive. 700 miles away
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It’s unfair to make AZ teams go where they don’t want to go. It’s only ok to make SoCal teams do that.

The flights to SLC and Denver take less time than SoCal clubs driving to Phoenix or Las Vegas, and we all know time is money.
 
SoccerGuru said:
Wow, I didn't realize how much the traveling is going to suck for Real CO in ecnl. They have a lot of traveling to do, @milehighdad, what are your thoughts about this?
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My goat is an 04 and has been traveling since she was U10. We hit Nv, Az and played in the Blues Cup a few times . Personally I feel blessed to get to travel to watch her play the game she loves. Sure there are some trips when like EJ says everyone gets a hat trick, it is a waste all around. But those teams get weeded out. Imagine being those parents and kids. Lopsided matches 4-1/3-0 type games are learning experiences for all and then when you get the hard fought draw or the 1-0 game, it is certainly worth the price of admission. So from my lone CO perspective, traveling to play teams that represent the more competitive teams in a certain area is absolutely worth it. It took leaving Socal 15 years ago to see how big the world is outside of Ca. Now looking forward to see how NorCal and the NW plays. Texas was a blast and it is fun to see our Club hold its own down there. I really applaud the Ca parents that deal with getting your goats to practices after working all day. We are 1 mile from our practice fields and 6 miles from our complex. I’m also a bit skewed since my DD has battled back from contact ACL injuries too. We may be starting some social distancing practices in June. So I would say enjoy the ride for your kid cuz it goes by really quick.
 
EOTL said:
It’s unfair to make AZ teams go where they don’t want to go. It’s only ok to make SoCal teams do that.

The flights to SLC and Denver take less time than SoCal clubs driving to Phoenix or Las Vegas, and we all know time is money.
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When I go to Mexico there is a popular sticker. No Sniveling.

That is you. The beta male.

The guy that joins a club that knows it involves travel and complains.

The guy that says there are plenty of clubs in So Cal they can play but yet chooses not to join that league.

The guy that buys a house by an airport that then complains about aircraft

The guy that moves out of the city to save cash and buys a house next to a feedlot that then complains about the smell.

A whiney bitch.
 
EOTL said:
It’s unfair to make AZ teams go where they don’t want to go. It’s only ok to make SoCal teams do that.

The flights to SLC and Denver take less time than SoCal clubs driving to Phoenix or Las Vegas, and we all know time is money.
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What is the problem Mijo?

"Once every 10 months I have to go to PHX"

Ay Caramba!

How much does that cost?

"Papi maybe $300. We have to get a hotel for 2 nights"

Que terible!

Don't you also spend the night in SD?

"Si papi...pero we save a couple of hours drive on the way down and back"

Mijo why not join a local league. You knew you have to travel?

"Papi they should adjust to me!!"

Ok Mijo I guess you need a nap.
 
Desert Hound said:
When I go to Mexico there is a popular sticker. No Sniveling.

That is you. The beta male.

The guy that joins a club that knows it involves travel and complains.

The guy that says there are plenty of clubs in So Cal they can play but yet chooses not to join that league.

The guy that buys a house by an airport that then complains about aircraft

The guy that moves out of the city to save cash and buys a house next to a feedlot that then complains about the smell.

A whiney bitch.
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Yep. And the dope who lives in the middle of nowhere and wants everyone to come visit.

(See, we all can call names.)

I agree AZ is a hard problem. Nobody but Vegas is near you. But, if you try to keep it like it is, eventually the 11 socal clubs will outvote the 3 AZ/NV clubs.
 
Desert Hound said:
When I go to Mexico there is a popular sticker. No Sniveling.

That is you. The beta male.

The guy that joins a club that knows it involves travel and complains.

The guy that says there are plenty of clubs in So Cal they can play but yet chooses not to join that league.

The guy that buys a house by an airport that then complains about aircraft

The guy that moves out of the city to save cash and buys a house next to a feedlot that then complains about the smell.

A whiney bitch.
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Apparently the truth hurts more than I thought.

I know your mantra in life is “do what you’re told”, but no. The GDA Mafia tried and failed, and so will the Cactus Cartel.
 
EOTL said:
I know your mantra in life is “do what you’re told”,
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Actually it is a bit different. Research the thing you plan on joining.

If after you research it and you decide it doesn't work, don't do it.

In my case we looked at it, liked it and joined.

What we didn't do is what you are doing... sniveling and asking the league to change because you don't like traveling. I am not asking them to change things for me. I knew what we signed up for. That is the difference between you and I.

The smart people sign up for things that work for them.

I certainly do not sign up for stuff that I don't like.

Why do you?

You state local clubs have what you need. And yet for some reason when given the choice you don't like that option.
 
Desert Hound said:
See here is the difference.

When I signed my kid up the deal was travel.

I didn't join and then complain about the fact the league involves travel.

See how that works?
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False choice.

There are not enough high skill kids for two leagues. The high skill kids belong in the same league.

And, if the parents of those high skill kids think day trips to Vegas and Salt Lake are crazy stupid, we have every right to say so. And to ask our clubs to use their influence to realign the conferences.

The day trips for mismatched opponents are crazy stupid. There is no reason to drive 300 miles or fly 900 miles just to make sure that the 10th best team in the country can still beat the 240th best team.
 
Desert Hound said:
You state local clubs have what you need. And yet for some reason when given the choice you don't like that option.
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For some kids, playing local means playing up two years. It just isn’t safe. Otherwise I would.

And yes, she could play her age and play local. But it ruins the game for the middle skill kids. I won’t do that.
 
Desert Hound said:
Actually it is a bit different. Research the thing you plan on joining.

If after you research it and you decide it doesn't work, don't do it.

In my case we looked at it, liked it and joined.

What we didn't do is what you are doing... sniveling and asking the league to change because you don't like traveling. I am not asking them to change things for me. I knew what we signed up for. That is the difference between you and I.

The smart people sign up for things that work for them.

I certainly do not sign up for stuff that I don't like.

Why do you?

You state local clubs have what you need. And yet for some reason when given the choice you don't like that option.
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I can see why you would be so excited for your kid to play ECNL. The SoCal teams are a vast improvement over your local competition.

Arizona made some sense in early ECNL because they couldn’t steal players from existing SoCal clubs. Now that GDA caused ECNL to add a bunch of teams in SoCal, especially SD, AZ’s and NV’s usefulness has come to an end for SoCal.

The other difference between you and me is that I look past today and also try to help people. I want to make sure you have advance warning so you can prepare accordingly. I’m nice like that.
 
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