Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

vegasguy said:
What inside information do you have?
MSK357: Well we want it to happen and we are socal and so it should happen.
EOTL: Yes we are OC and ECNL needs OC and they should make us happy. I do not like to travel because well it is hard on my player because they lose and then I can not post on insta and fb how great my daughters team is.

Why do you think it is fair that NV and AZ travel farther to SLC and Denver than LA to Vegas?
MSK357: Dude I only travel for showcases but just a league well we are socal so why should we.
EOTL: No one wants travel. NV and AZ should just come to us we are Socal.

do you see your argument is just "we are socal" . Do you know the drive between LV and PHX is longer than any drive there is in the SW. 5.5 or 6hrs if we have to go to Mesa. Push the button on the Tesla, stop at Eddie's do not go to the outlet malls and we will see you this fall possibly.
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lol, I just think its funny that the possibility that tables might be turned, you suddenly don't think travel is a good thing. Look man, I don't care what happens, I prefer less travel. its not that serious. Its apparently very serious if you don't get to play socal teams anymore. Over react much?
 
MSK357 said:
lol, I just think its funny that the possibility that tables might be turned, you suddenly don't think travel is a good thing. Look man, I don't care what happens, I prefer less travel. its not that serious. Its apparently very serious if you don't get to play socal teams anymore. Over react much?
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Who has ever over reacted?? I didn't name call.. but I simply called out your one and only argument. I get that you prefer less travel than 2 extra trips. There is no turning of a table. I also never said travel was a bad thing. My point is you do not want to travel (we get it) and you think NV and AZ should travel farther to save you from your travel. Reality is the league is set up and when we all get back to playing it seems like socal/az/nv are in the same league. I get it Socal is an awesome place... waves... beaches... good schools but it is not the center of any universe add in traffic, taxes and pollution and it is just another place to choose to live. Just like you choose where your player plays.
 
vegasguy said:
Who has ever over reacted?? I didn't name call.. but I simply called out your one and only argument. I get that you prefer less travel than 2 extra trips. There is no turning of a table. I also never said travel was a bad thing. My point is you do not want to travel (we get it) and you think NV and AZ should travel farther to save you from your travel. Reality is the league is set up and when we all get back to playing it seems like socal/az/nv are in the same league. I get it Socal is an awesome place... waves... beaches... good schools but it is not the center of any universe add in traffic, taxes and pollution and it is just another place to choose to live. Just like you choose where your player plays.
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Finally, you get that I prefer less travel, I only had to say it a bunch of times for that to get through to you lol. You act as if regions will never change. I never said anything bad about AZ or NV. I actually said I don't mind traveling to Vegas. I Just prefer not travel if we have local teams that are just as good, like some that have recently been added. I get that if cali broke off you would have to travel further. But understand that Cali teams have no responsibility to cater to NV or AZ so that they get better competition. Lets be honest, you see my opinion as a threat to you having to travel more. Why are you so spun up on something I prefer? Because it inconveniences you? Sorry, not sorry.
 
MSK357 said:
Finally, you get that I prefer less travel, I only had to say it a bunch of times for that to get through to you lol. You act as if regions will never change. I never said anything bad about AZ or NV. I actually said I don't mind traveling to Vegas. I Just prefer not travel if we have local teams that are just as good, like some that have recently been added. I get that if cali broke off you would have to travel further. But understand that Cali teams have no responsibility to cater to NV or AZ so that they get better competition. Lets be honest, you see my opinion as a threat to you having to travel more. Why are you so spun up on something I prefer? Because it inconveniences you? Sorry, not sorry.
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Not spun at all. In the next season you agree you will be coming to Vegas and Phoenix. I just do not see your argument on why NV and AZ do not belong. If we were bottom feeders year after year and in all age groups you may have an argument but you and EOTL act like our clubs do not produce and thus do not belong. You actually said below average in one of your posts. Travel is inevitable you you just do not like it for one or two weekends. I get it. Let your DD come by herself on team travel. She will thank you for it.
 
vegasguy said:
Who has ever over reacted?? I didn't name call.. but I simply called out your one and only argument. I get that you prefer less travel than 2 extra trips. There is no turning of a table. I also never said travel was a bad thing. My point is you do not want to travel (we get it) and you think NV and AZ should travel farther to save you from your travel. Reality is the league is set up and when we all get back to playing it seems like socal/az/nv are in the same league. I get it Socal is an awesome place... waves... beaches... good schools but it is not the center of any universe add in traffic, taxes and pollution and it is just another place to choose to live. Just like you choose where your player plays.
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vegasguy said:
Not spun at all. In the next season you agree you will be coming to Vegas and Phoenix. I just do not see your argument on why NV and AZ do not belong. If we were bottom feeders year after year and in all age groups you may have an argument but you and EOTL act like our clubs do not produce and thus do not belong. You actually said below average in one of your posts. Travel is inevitable you you just do not like it for one or two weekends. I get it. Let your DD come by herself on team travel. She will thank you for it.
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Bro, I literally just said I would prefer playing local teams that are just as good as AZ and NV. I said we don't need to travel because we have equal level competition here. I prefer to travel less, that's my preference. I'm not downplaying AZ or NV teams, I'm not hating on where you live, I prefer to travel less. that really shouldn't bother you that I prefer that. What really bothers you is if that really happens and you are no longer playing cali level teams. Stop making it more than it is. If Lavers adjusts the regions, I would welcome it. Don't hate on me for the fact I want less travel, lol. You're just mad because you feel like its screwing you over. Not my problem.
 
I just back from surfing brahs and I feel obligated to chime in. Listen everyone, I want ((my dd too if I sell it right) to play the top teams in AZ, NV and NoCal. My dd has battled some great teams in those areas. AZ teams beat some ECNL teams and that LVSA old age team ((03/04)) beat my dd old Blues team at the Prestigious Blues Cup U12 finals back in 2015 :) They were tough. Heat FC always brought their heat. As a true competitor, I want ((so does my goat)) to play the best in AZ, NV and Norcal, period and end of story. This is a stupid talk btw but I find it super funny from some on here. My advice to some is to stick with SCDSL, AYSO and or a Regional League. That is where 90% of you should be and I might be joining you all as well. Just keep in mine most sports leagues don;t promise play time with starts for dues and fees. I know GDA was so popular with the 25% starts. Last, I do not want to travel to Texas or CO or East Coast, never ever. However, CO, NV, AZ, TX, UT, CA, WA, OR, ID and Montana can all hook up in Las Vegas for a Regional Showcase. Go support Vegas baby!!! Then we can have a nice Showcase in AZ but make them count towards League. Inter league games........lol!!!!! That's my two cents. Back in my hole unless big breaking news hits.
 
Bruddah EJ, at least Tx and Co should be on your must play list. Tx facilities for FC Dallas and the one in Round Rock were pretty impressive . Watching our high altitude studs slowly fade after 60 minutes in the Tx humidity and by then end of the game you can tell both sides are hurting and you can see who the real athletes are. And in Co playing at Dicks Sporting Goods park or at the Real complex where Pugh, Hinkle, Smith and Beckie trained gotta have some sway.
We have only played in Oceanside, where are the must play locations in So Cal?
 
Mile High Dad said:
Bruddah EJ, at least Tx and Co should be on your must play list. Tx facilities for FC Dallas and the one in Round Rock were pretty impressive . Watching our high altitude studs slowly fade after 60 minutes in the Tx humidity and by then end of the game you can tell both sides are hurting and you can see who the real athletes are. And in Co playing at Dicks Sporting Goods park or at the Real complex where Pugh, Hinkle, Smith and Beckie trained gotta have some sway.
We have only played in Oceanside, where are the must play locations in So Cal?
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Mile brah, those Dallas fields are the best but........Corona and no flying. I'm scared...............I change my mind. I will go to Texas and CO for a roadie. The Great Park, Stud Hud, Cal State Fullerton, Silver lakes are very nice.
 
MSK357 said:
Bro, I literally just said I would prefer playing local teams that are just as good as AZ and NV. I said we don't need to travel because we have equal level competition here. I prefer to travel less, that's my preference. I'm not downplaying AZ or NV teams, I'm not hating on where you live, I prefer to travel less. that really shouldn't bother you that I prefer that. What really bothers you is if that really happens and you are no longer playing cali level teams. Stop making it more than it is. If Lavers adjusts the regions, I would welcome it. Don't hate on me for the fact I want less travel, lol. You're just mad because you feel like its screwing you over. Not my problem.
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Sensitive much. We were debating Lavers intentions that is all. You believe adding socal teams eliminates the need for az and nv and inevitably the will be moved out of the southwest. I think you are wrong . It is obvious you want less travel and yet travel. Not mad at all. No reason to get mad. I am not one that dislikes someone because the don't agree with. It is all good. The art of social discourse is gone and that is sad.
 
vegasguy said:
Sensitive much. We were debating Lavers intentions that is all. You believe adding socal teams eliminates the need for az and nv and inevitably the will be moved out of the southwest. I think you are wrong . It is obvious you want less travel and yet travel. Not mad at all. No reason to get mad. I am not one that dislikes someone because the don't agree with. It is all good. The art of social discourse is gone and that is sad.
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Not sensitive at all. Why do you care so much that I prefer less travel? Thats my preference. The fact you keep replying about me wanting less travel says more about you than me. Lol. Like I said, I'll be fine either way. But it seems to really bother you since you keep bringing it up.
 
MSK357 said:
Not sensitive at all. Why do you care so much that I prefer less travel? Thats my preference. The fact you keep replying about me wanting less travel says more about you than me. Lol. Like I said, I'll be fine either way. But it seems to really bother you since you keep bringing it up.
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But you keep reply to me... so... what does that say about you
 
dad4 said:
AZ would be fools to use showcases as leverage.

Having local showcases is great for your girls and your clubs. Why put that at risk?

You would be smart to accept the ex DA clubs. Builds a better local base with 4 teams so you aren't in an all travel situation like Real Colorado is now.
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Agreed!!!! SoCal has plenty of clubs so no need to travel during regular season. NorCal/AZ/NV/CO add more teams to reduce travel. Make a mid season or end of season tournament to meet iand invite the top 4 teams from SoCal/3 from each other region and make a 16 team tournament. Rotate the location each year like the World Cup.
 
vegasguy said:
Says something because you were denying mine.
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I'm not saying anything about yours. This whole time, I've been saying I prefer less travel. that socal can be just as competitive without AZ and NV. I don't care what you want, lol stop lying. The problem is you think I should care about your point of view. I don't. But you definitely care about mine.
 
MSK357 said:
I'm not saying anything about yours. This whole time, I've been saying I prefer less travel. that socal can be just as competitive without AZ and NV. I don't care what you want, lol stop lying. The problem is you think I should care about your point of view. I don't. But you definitely care about mine.
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I am a liar? OK. I am glad you want less travel so stop lying. I am happy for you. I NV and AZ were not leaving the southwest and you said the writing is on the wall that they were. I disagreed. You also said travel was forced on you.
 
vegasguy said:
I am a liar? OK. I am glad you want less travel so stop lying. I am happy for you. I NV and AZ were not leaving the southwest and you said the writing is on the wall that they were. I disagreed. You also said travel was forced on you.
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Nope, never said travel was forced on me. I don't care if nothing changes. I just prefer less travel. you care so much of what I prefer because it would mean you would end up traveling more and/or playing weaker teams.
 
Has it been determined what the 4 clubs that have GAL and ECRL will do with the A team and B teams and it appears that DPL will still operate as a second tier to GA so for those 4 clubs do they put the C team in DPL? Talking about Beach Legends Pateodores West Coast and from what it sounds like reading this thread each club is doing it different and if you are putting your B team in ECRL how does that help your chances of getting into ECNL when ECNL was rumored to never be happy with clubs with dual membership DA and ECNL putting it's A teams in DA.
 
ToonArmy said:
Has it been determined what the 4 clubs that have GAL and ECRL will do with the A team and B teams and it appears that DPL will still operate as a second tier to GA so for those 4 clubs do they put the C team in DPL? Talking about Beach Legends Pateodores West Coast and from what it sounds like reading this thread each club is doing it different and if you are putting your B team in ECRL how does that help your chances of getting into ECNL when ECNL was rumored to never be happy with clubs with dual membership DA and ECNL putting it's A teams in DA.
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Before a bunch of 5 year olds who had to have the last word hijacked this thread, @eric mentioned his kid's team (not sure which club) will play both GAL and ECRL.

This is indeed creating a lot of intriguing scenarios. If you think your club is a strong candidate to be included in the next expansion, perhaps you put your best teams in ECRL. If not, maybe placing your bet on the new GAL league instead. Who is to say Surf, Blues, or Slammers won't do well enough in ECRL to warrant a 2nd team (3rd team in Slammers' case) in the ECNL ahead of some of these 4 clubs?

I do hope ECNL gives some clarity on expansion/promotion/demotion for the sake of girls/families involved. Otherwise, I can see this website turn into a College Football Playoff type of forum. We will be arguing about who deserve to get promoted by debating quality of victory, margin of victory, quality of losses, key player missing in certain games, etc.
 
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