Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA
- Thread starter dreamz
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So now you’re misrepresenting that parents are opposed to two trips because you’ve run out of other stupid arguments. The reality is that SoCal people are only opposed to trips that make no sense. AZ and NV for league games aren’t the only trips that teams or families make, they’re just the two stupidest and least necessary ones. I’m perfectly happy going to AZ or NV for a real showcase. I might even be ok going to CO if it isn’t stupidly scheduled in April when it snows, it doesn’t require missing three days of school, and it isn’t any more expensive than any other location. I am huge proponent of doing things that make sense, and not doing things that don’t. It’s really a very simple philosophy.
Desert Hound
DA
I just chuckled and almost made a mess with my coffee.
Soccer should be as inclusive as possible....but we dont want LV and PHX in our league. So while arguing for inclusiveness you are at the same time wanting to kick out some ECNL teams in the division. Ok.
Can you name anyone who sends their younger teams out into the boondocks to help out smaller clubs? Heat certainly doesn’t. Their league is all Vegas.
If it is so important for central teams to travel to help out smaller clubs, then LV and PHX can show us how it is done. Will NV or AZ will be the first to drive out to Kingman for a league game? Conveniently located halfway between Vegas and Phoenix.
MSK357
GOLD
Bro, I don't care about travel if its worth it. Showcases are worth it. 1 team in vegas is not worth it, especially when we have equal if not better competition close by.
Desert Hound
DA
Well funny you should ask. In the local state league, teams do travel. Phoenix goes up to Prescott and Flagstaff, down to Tucson and over to Yuma. And visa versa.
vegasguy
GOLD
funny. truth is Newsom may not allow the games so you would have to come here and play anyway. Plus you all come to Vegas for Players Showcase and other events. You act as if travel is not necessary. Why do you fly everywhere.. enjoy the ride and drive or is that beneath you and your Socal mentality?
This post may be the most perfect example of clueless elitism ever written. “Inclusivity” means making an activity accessible for as many people as possible. “Inclusivity” does not mean making people incur unnecessary costs to subsidize mostly affluent AZ and NV folks’ participation in perhaps the most elitist youth sport in the U.S. that does not require owning a horse.
I think people will have a hard time finding a post from someone so lacking in self-awareness than this one, and that’s saying a lot at this website.
MSK357
GOLD
Flying for 1 game isn't worth it. A showcase where you can play a few games and it means something does. why is that so hard to understand?
vegasguy
GOLD
How far is you longest travel time in Socal for a ECNL league game. Is it Real Socal to SD? Not in miles but in your traffic how long is that drive time?
I do know one time it took us almost 2.5hrs to get from Del Mar to San Juan last year on a Saturday afternoon. I am fine with team travel too because if my player goes back east he will be prepared and understand that Mom and Dad are not there packing his bag, making him study and doing the things he needs to do himself. Will your player be ok without you on the sideline at every practice and game?
I am good watching the VEO of the match when I can not attend. Are you?
vegasguy
GOLD
Absolutely, flying is not worth it. Why do you have to fly. Why do you have to go at all?
MSK357
GOLD
We don't, which is why I think ECNL just picked up a few more socal teams. Teams that are very strong. I'm sure some Vegas and AZ teams will be picked up in the future. enjoy playing cali teams while it lasts lol.
Desert Hound
DA
I would say you exhibit that. Joining ECNL knowing full well who is in the league and what it requires. Then coming on these boards and whining about what you signed up for.
In most circles that is called lame.
You and a few of the same others that bitch about driving all tell us So Cal has SO MANY teams nearby they can play there is no need to travel. I agree. Join one of those leagues. Or when given that actual choice, suddenly those are not the teams you want to play?
MSK357
GOLD
If ECNL keeps the region the way it is, im fine with it. I PREFER to travel less because we have teams here especially some that recently were picked up that are just as good as Vegas and AZ teams if not better. My kids will still fly out of state for showcases, they will still get that experience and team bonding. fair?
vegasguy
GOLD
Who do you think Vegas will pickup? Do you understand our landscape fully? We are a small market. We will be there for a longer while than you assume. Again you said fly. Just get in your care.. put your maps on and enjoy the ride and we will see you out here this fall
vegasguy
GOLD
Passed on the drive time question did you? I get it because you know the time of travel is pretty equal. ECNL is a national league. Enjoy coming to Vegas. I do not recommend the Alien Jerky in Baker. It is not good. The ice cream at Eddie's World is really good though.
Newsom represents the interests of the intelligent people who voted for him. CA parents are not going to let their kids go to a state of idiots who idiotically decided that U13 girls’ soccer tournaments are more important than, well, people living. No one with a brain is going to send their child to your dump of a state until they’re sure that you aren’t going to kill them.
MSK357
GOLD
Like I said earlier, I don't mind Vegas, its just another excuse to go there. I just prefer to travel less. Nothing wrong with wanting that. Kids will still go to out of state showcases to get that flying and team bonding experience. We will see if the regions change. We got enough socal teams for our own region now, so lets wait and see. agree to disagree. we both have our own opinions.Who do you think Vegas will pickup? Do you understand our landscape fully? We are a small market. We will be there for a longer while than you assume. Again you said fly. Just get in your care.. put your maps on and enjoy the ride and we will see you out here this fall
You guys drive all the way over to Yuma for a U10 match every season? dang.
When out of metro area teams join the Bay Area leagues, they only get 1 or 2 home games. The rest are away.
If we tried to make the San Jose teams drive to Monterey, some people would stop signing up. You’d lose more kids in the center than you would add in the boonies.
Same problem for olders. Every time you add travel costs, you lose some kids.
MSK357
GOLD
I promise you, the drive time is not as bad as vegas. And trading Vegas and AZ with more local teams will cut travel time by itself.