Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

[MakeAPlay]

There's literally no other country in the World so vested in creating leagues and clubs to help develop kids who aren't good enough to go pro! Can you imagine any clubs in the rest of the World that are worth their salt touting "We've got kids going to College" Lol. People come on here like they're deciding the future of the game for the rest of the World. Soccer in the US is small potatoes and the USSF and equally at the youth level have been publicly "found out" 10 years too late. Come on people we can do better. Put your kids with the best coaches and lets stop this nonsense

I just don't see a lot of people wanting their daughters to be pro soccer players. It is seriously a small percentage of that extremely small percentage that does really well financially as a pro women's soccer player. My kid is a pro soccer player and although she is enjoying herself she is aware that soccer right now is a passion more than a career. Her roommate/teammate has already been accepted into law school and is delaying enrolling while she is playing out her dreams and my kid is studying for the LSAT.

Most of these women that make it to the pros are unicorns beyond anything imagineable on the men's side. They not only are talented and dedicated but almost all of them are brilliant and many are well educated. Just imagine if Paul Pogba was also a brilliant scholar and had a graduate degree. Many of our professional women's players have them and are playing more for the love of the game than any sort of financial reward. The NWSL is the most successful women's professional league in terms of attendance in the US yet it is still unfortunately not there yet. My point is that college to most is a great outcome.

Good luck to you and you player.

 

[MakeAPlay]

It is worse than that. Most top teams in the country are going to break up because ECNL wants to kill off the programs at DA clubs.

The da teams break up when top kids leave. The ecnl teams break up to make room for the top da kids.

Kids on both types of teams lose- except for the top 200 kids in the country. They get a more competitive league. The rest go through a lot of bother for nothing.

(And, if you think your kid is in the top 200, take off the parent goggles. Most of us who think that are wrong.)

Now you are getting it. In the end it won't be the top players that suffer. They will get a better product. It won't be the bottom players that suffer either. It will be the middle players who had parents that thought that they were top players. Those will be the ones who will be getting replaced, unless of course their parents can stroke a big enough check..... Unfortunately that part never changes...

 

[El Clasico]

Wouldn’t it be great if the clubs that don’t get to move from DA to ECNL said :
“We are bummed that we didn’t get the golden ticket. We feel that our players deserve to play in this league against the best players. But we realize that too many teams can have a negative impact. We respect the decisions made by ECNL. We will continue to discuss future options with them. We will always encourage our players to choose whatever is best for them. Our teams will focus on playing in our local club league (scdsl/Coast) and we hope to that our local league will have the prestige and competitiveness from 5 years ago. Our club is a founding member of scdsl and we will get back to the roots of why this league was formed.”

Money?? How would that help them retain players? It is no secret that, right around the time that your older daughter took her first dip into the "club circuit" pool, the founding members started SCDSL so that they could field more than two teams in each age group so that they could sign up more players so they could make more money? How is that an effective sales pitch? In your position, you should know that better than most.

 

[MakeAPlay]

No idea. They tried to get in for a few years. But I think your question is flawed. One gangster went to another gangster to get away from another gangster. WHEN A CRIME IS COMMITTED IN HELL THERE ARE NO ANGELS AS WITNESSES.

Satan is an angel. An Archangel at that. Your point is taken though.

 

[oh canada]

I just don't see a lot of people wanting their daughters to be pro soccer players. It is seriously a small percentage of that extremely small percentage that does really well financially as a pro women's soccer player. My kid is a pro soccer player and although she is enjoying herself she is aware that soccer right now is a passion more than a career. Her roommate/teammate has already been accepted into law school and is delaying enrolling while she is playing out her dreams and my kid is studying for the LSAT.

Most of these women that make it to the pros are unicorns beyond anything imagineable on the men's side. They not only are talented and dedicated but almost all of them are brilliant and many are well educated. Just imagine if Paul Pogba was also a brilliant scholar and had a graduate degree. Many of our professional women's players have them and are playing more for the love of the game than any sort of financial reward. The NWSL is the most successful women's professional league in terms of attendance in the US yet it is still unfortunately not there yet. My point is that college to most is a great outcome.

Good luck to you and you player.

I'm hoping living through Covid persuades a lot of girls (and boys) with thoughts of playing pro soccer to feel inspired to actually make a difference by becoming physicians and medical scientists.

 

[Ellejustus]

I just don't see a lot of people wanting their daughters to be pro soccer players. It is seriously a small percentage of that extremely small percentage that does really well financially as a pro women's soccer player. My kid is a pro soccer player and although she is enjoying herself she is aware that soccer right now is a passion more than a career. Her roommate/teammate has already been accepted into law school and is delaying enrolling while she is playing out her dreams and my kid is studying for the LSAT.

Most of these women that make it to the pros are unicorns beyond anything imagineable on the men's side. They not only are talented and dedicated but almost all of them are brilliant and many are well educated. Just imagine if Paul Pogba was also a brilliant scholar and had a graduate degree. Many of our professional women's players have them and are playing more for the love of the game than any sort of financial reward. The NWSL is the most successful women's professional league in terms of attendance in the US yet it is still unfortunately not there yet. My point is that college to most is a great outcome.

Good luck to you and you player.

So well said Maps. Pros is what some dads want. My dd would like to play past HS but its ok to her if she doesn;t. I hope she's welcomed at a JC at least to work on her general ed. We can;t afford to play the Unicorn soccer league at all and her grades are not 4.5 and higher. That my friend is what I call "gifted DD." It's cool for some and hopefully things change for others in soccer who aren;t as gifter with their brain. I don;t see her playing adult rec leagues with soccer moms, that's for sure. Probably one more year of club if we have a season ((right Copa?)), two HS Soccer seasons and then no more soccer and move onto her next stage in life. The pro woman's league is way out of her league. Plus, I have no money or desire to save some to follow that dream if my dd had that dream. The parents have to offset their pro life. Plus, I had to be the one investing in the GDA so others can take trips and make a lot of money. It is what it is and I see the financial sacrifice and the hard work the player & parent put into making this all work for everyone. Like you said, many roads lead to Rome

 

[MakeAPlay]

I'm hoping living through Covid persuades a lot of girls (and boys) with thoughts of playing pro soccer to feel inspired to actually make a difference by becoming physicians and medical scientists.

I agree. Some ladies of her age first got to vote in 2016 and they aren't exactly happy about how that turned out. It has motivated many of them to make a difference. Lots of strong women out there. Many of them govenors, doctors and scientists that they see making a difference. The good thing about these trying times is that it is very illumiating. It illuminates the good in people and the bad and it has forced us all to reevaluate our relationships and personal situations at take really declare what is truly important.

Good luck to you and your player.

 

[Ellejustus]

Satan is an angel. An Archangel at that. Your point is taken though.

Spot on. Satan is not a demon like Carl.

 

[GeekKid]

It is worse than that. Most top teams in the country are going to break up because ECNL wants to kill off the programs at DA clubs.

The da teams break up when top kids leave. The ecnl teams break up to make room for the top da kids.

Kids on both types of teams lose- except for the top 200 kids in the country. They get a more competitive league. The rest go through a lot of bother for nothing.

(And, if you think your kid is in the top 200, take off the parent goggles. Most of us who think that are wrong.)

It's funny to know who is on the ECNL board of directors and see what vested interest they have in not seeing local top level DA teams succeed. Only helps strengthen and safeguard their brand.

 

[Ellejustus]

It's funny to know who is on the ECNL board of directors and see what vested interest they have in not seeing local top level DA teams succeed. Only helps strengthen and safeguard their brand.

It goes both ways too. Two companies, ECNL & GDA went for top dog in soccer. They battled it out bro right in front of me for three long years. Gee, which one looks a little better today kkid? One just sent us all a one page goodbye letter and closed their doors for good and told your club, "good luck." The other company is trying to figure how to handle all the fish they just caught. I call it a modern day miracle

 

[dad4]

It's funny to know who is on the ECNL board of directors and see what vested interest they have in not seeing local top level DA teams succeed. Only helps strengthen and safeguard their brand.

Agree fully with the first, and completely disagree with the second.

To me, it makes them look like self-interested buffoons who have no interest in me beyond picking my pocket. I certainly do not believe they are capable of dealing with safety, competitiveness, travel, or any other issue that does not easily and directly translate into cash.

 

[Technician72]

Tech, is this how your doing "Tech Specs" for 2020? Did you get that "One Trick Pony" from RB? Since I'm the only dad who talks about "The List", the pony can only be my dd. The reason I ask Tech, after my goat left her Blues Pin and played possession for 6 months with her new team, RB came over to talk it up with her coach PD after we won Surf Cup. He said, "Wow, #7 is not a one trick pony anymore." I kid you not so I bet 100% you got that tagline from him or maybe a slow parent who hated it when my dd scored goals when she was 11. I was standing right there and he had no idea I was #7s daddy. I actually hated that and I still do. Its what slow people say when their not fast.
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Nope, not talking about your DD. You do plenty of that on your own. You're reaching on that assumption based on a phrase that is common and used by many. If I'm referring to you, you'll know it.

I was talking about forwards in general, most have the killer mentality and instinctively want to take someone 1 vs 1 to show dominance, but the great ones add to their game and can play off the ball to create space for themselves and others and become more difficult to defend.

I wouldn't know enough of your daughter to comment on her, and I even if I did I wouldn't do so. I'll leave that to you and out of respect for another poster I'll leave it at that.

 

[Simisoccerfan]

I am going to give you some advice. No college coach needs a headache like you, especially when your daughter isn’t a difference-maker. And no club coach will recommend a kid with a parent who is a headache like you. If your kid is marginal to get an offer, you will be the reason it didn’t happen. The best thing you can do for your daughter is stay off this site and stop attending her practices and games, because you will inevitably screw things up for her even worse then you already have. The same holds true for any of her extracurricular activities.

EOTL, you have always been an asshole and you continue to prove it by your posts. No one wants your advice. Going hard after someone's kid is just plain out of line.

 

[Ellejustus]

Nope, not talking about your DD. You do plenty of that on your own. You're reaching on that assumption based on a phrase that is common and used by many. If I'm referring to you, you'll know it.

I was talking about forwards in general, most have the killer mentality and instinctively want to take someone 1 vs 1 to show dominance, but the great ones add to their game and can play off the ball to create space for themselves and others and become more difficult to defend.

I wouldn't know enough of your daughter to comment on her, and I even if I did I wouldn't do so. I'll leave that to you and out of respect for another poster I'll leave it at that.

Nice try bud. You gots me so wrong Tech but i see you and I understand you way better brah

 

[Ellejustus]

EOTL, you have always been an asshole and you continue to prove it by your posts. No one wants your advice. Going hard after someone's kid is just plain out of line.

He's a coach and doesn;t give a sh*t about any of us.

 

[Simisoccerfan]

I'm hoping living through Covid persuades a lot of girls (and boys) with thoughts of playing pro soccer to feel inspired to actually make a difference by becoming physicians and medical scientists.

I agree. I have one daughter entering her third year studying nursing, a son on the path to be a firefighter, and my soccer playing daughter planning to go to grad school to be a Physician's Assistant though I must say I am glad that they are all still in college right now.

 

[Ellejustus]

Nope, not talking about your DD. You do plenty of that on your own. You're reaching on that assumption based on a phrase that is common and used by many. If I'm referring to you, you'll know it.

I was talking about forwards in general, most have the killer mentality and instinctively want to take someone 1 vs 1 to show dominance, but the great ones add to their game and can play off the ball to create space for themselves and others and become more difficult to defend.

I wouldn't know enough of your daughter to comment on her, and I even if I did I wouldn't do so. I'll leave that to you and out of respect for another poster I'll leave it at that.

OK, please let me know when your talking directly to me bro. I'm the one who coined "The list." Your previous coach also called my goat a one trick pony and it triggered me. You know what your doing and you can just start talking to me directly. I 100% feel your lying Tech and that surprises me about you.

 

[outside!]

State of the art. Loved all your fields. Played twice in Texas. Maybe it;s the Defeaters fields I'm thinking of. Hotel and away from big city? Perfect fields

Ever been there in July?

 

[Ellejustus]

Ever been there in July?

I was there in August for the Naty. It was insane and because of that one week I can;t live there. However, I do love their state and all that

 

[lionsalpha]

I see things A bit differently. Although there may be a bigger divide between SB and LB, the SB as a whole does not want to drive to OC Great Park. So Beach stands to capitalize on a unification of the SB. If they can pull that off, well it is going to be a tough ECRL season at many of the age groups.

Exactly. Was just going to say that.
Many 07’s as a whole will stay put. Galaxy Academy girls who used to play with my DD have been reaching out to the beach staff. I can imagine many in the other age groups as well just for the sake that they don’t want to commute for Slammers or Breakers.

The SB will be a huge monster with Beach. Can’t see ECNL not accepting us in the future especially if there is pro/rel

 

[GeekKid]

Agree fully with the first, and completely disagree with the second.

To me, it makes them look like self-interested buffoons who have no interest in me beyond picking my pocket. I certainly do not believe they are capable of dealing with safety, competitiveness, travel, or any other issue that does not easily and directly translate into cash.

I was being sarcastic on the second point. Snuffing out competition that way doesn't do anything to improve you game.