Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Soccer said:
I have posted this before. It comes down to space at showcases, this is fact, believe it or not, Surf, RSC and Charlotte got the last three spots. Louisville FC was getting in for 20-21 until this DA debacle. Not sure if the will get ECRL. There is the mandated 20-21 Regional league, B teams of ECNL teams. There was not to be cross play with this. They are waiting to see how many accept of the former DA teams into a 1 year Regional league, if enough accept this will be seperate from B team regional league. This league will have cross play in the fact the winners of their respective regions can qualify for Champions Playoffs. They are Working on logistics of regional showcases for this league too, not a guarantee.

Texas wants a 10 month season, so the former DA frontier group is floating their own league. I am sure Albion and Carlsbad are floating something too, they are not getting a spot intothe new ECNL regional league.

The clubs that have the most to lose are the bottom ECNL clubs, because in 21-22 season the whole thing will be reevaluated, bigger venues for showcases and talk of making two legit tiers. Or dropping underperforners.
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Texas wants 10 months? You have to be kidding me? Who the heck wants that now? I will be the first to say, "Stop 10 months of soccer for 99% of us." Were talking youth sports, not the pros. Plus, I'm sick of this weak MLS soccer league and US Soccer. Look how MLS treats American players and look at how USSF treated our top woman players and the little girls. Then, look at how both our treating us right now. Someone was making most of the money and it sure wasn;t the players. I can read where all the money went.

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I'm not trying to mock The Frontier's League 10 month league idea. I get it and my dd did it for the first year of the GDA. My question to dad. How do you sell or talk your dd into 10 months of this crap? What bribes are you offering to your goat? What do you say after your dd team wins 10-0? All these showcases are so weak too. I have to be honest today. You talk about a lack of excitement and ganas. I met one dad who was so mad he pulled his dd out and never came back. Others would say, "his dd wasnt that good anyways." BS!! The dad signed up for college exposure for his dd. Nothing like your dd getting her one start on a Sunday and all the college coaches are gone. I felt bad for him. That was two years ago. Guess what? She's going to college and playing soccer :) I think when Maps and ETOL were around these matches had ganas. I will not sign up my dd until I see everything that is required and planned for 2020-21. Wow folks, 10 months? Yuk!!! You have to be addicted and on some serious kool aid. Kool aid was not just served at the GDA. It's served everywhere with so many flavors now. "Elite Grape" "Cherry Premier" "Top Tier Mango" World Class Watermelon" and a new flavor they just developed, "Pink GAL Lemonade." You can find a coach who will serve you up whatever flavors your itching ears like to hear. I will sit on the sidelines now and watch all this play out. What kind of sport have the kids actually been playing? This is a blood bath war for market share and were all the market and of course our dd are forced to be stuck in the middle of all this sh*t. No way. I will not stand for this. HS Soccer baby!!!
 
Soccer said:
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Why would the clubs who are in ECNL participate in this?

And would it be FC Dallas' A teams playing against these smaller clubs, plus the C Teams for the existing ECNL clubs (since their A teams will be in ECNL and B teams in ECNL regional league)? Those games would have some ugly score lines.
 
Soccer said:
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I took a quick peak. I thought it looked professional and I liked most of it. 10 months is a bit too much but maybe they have a "part time goat" player for those who want to do it all and have the freedom to do that and still play? Very nicely put together under these crazy times. People in Texas do some really good things and they love their sports :)
 
Soccer said:
I have posted this before. It comes down to space at showcases, this is fact, believe it or not, Surf, RSC and Charlotte got the last three spots. Louisville FC was getting in for 20-21 until this DA debacle. Not sure if the will get ECRL. There is the mandated 20-21 Regional league, B teams of ECNL teams. There was not to be cross play with this. They are waiting to see how many accept of the former DA teams into a 1 year Regional league, if enough accept this will be seperate from B team regional league. This league will have cross play in the fact the winners of their respective regions can qualify for Champions Playoffs. They are Working on logistics of regional showcases for this league too, not a guarantee.

Texas wants a 10 month season, so the former DA frontier group is floating their own league. I am sure Albion and Carlsbad are floating something too, they are not getting a spot intothe new ECNL regional league.

The clubs that have the most to lose are the bottom ECNL clubs, because in 21-22 season the whole thing will be reevaluated, bigger venues for showcases and talk of making two legit tiers. Or dropping underperforners.
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I’m still trying to wrap my head around the structure of this.
Are you saying there could potentially be regular ECNL, ECRL that plays against ECNL (former DA teams) and ECRL that only plays each other (B teams of ECNL teams)?
 
Soccerfan2 said:
I’m still trying to wrap my head around the structure of this.
Are you saying there could potentially be regular ECNL, ECRL that plays against ECNL (former DA teams) and ECRL that only plays each other (B teams of ECNL teams)?
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FWIW.....its a no to the above.....I have been told what “soccer” is posting is not accurate.....showcase space is the only part that is accurate......but I am getting my information third hand so I am not saying I am right I am just stating what I have been told and the information I got was accurate last time........
 
futboldad1 said:
FWIW.....its a no to the above.....I have been told what “soccer” is posting is not accurate.....showcase space is the only part that is accurate......but I am getting my information third hand so I am not saying I am right I am just stating what I have been told and the information I got was accurate last time........
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3rd hand? LOL bro :) What is 2nd hand info in soccer? It's super hard in this arena to get 1st hand information. We all know who got the information first, second and now third in youth soccer.
 
EOTL said:
A singular league with promotion/relegation would be the worst thing possible for youth soccer. Development depends on high quality clubs with high quality coaches, providing consistent, high quality training for many years. That, in turn, requires that clubs and coaches have financial incentive to do what they are doing. If a real club risks losing $80,000 in fees per team every year when players scatter to yahoo clubs because the team got relegated, the good coaches go away to find real jobs. The possibility that their only source of income might instantly vaporize if a 12 year old girl gets hurt is no way to make a living, and even dumbest soccer people understand that. So you end up with only daddy coaches. All promotion/relegation does at the highest level is destabilize youth soccer and drive the best coaches to find other occupations.

Even aside from the inevitable drop in quality of training as daddy coaches take over, promotion/relegation gets in the way of development in other critical ways. Suddenly every U12 game becomes critical to win at the expense of long term development. Kids are forced to play hurt when an entire team’s worth of fees are on the line. No coach is going to emphasize possession soccer at young ages, because young kids make a lot of mistakes playing possession, and that will inevitably cause them to lose games and get relegated.

And why would we be doing this? Because some cheap ass daddies whose self-esteem depends on how many soccer games their 12 year old daughter wins want it. Because those idiot daddies can’t see past tomorrow and fail to grasp that the real purpose of elite girls soccer is not to win a U12 game, but is really college opportunity. They don’t want to pay for or receive high quality training and development because all they care about is that their daughter wins a soccer game today.

That said, it is possible but doubtful that ECNL may create a very limited 2 tier system, but only to the extent it won’t cause kids to switch clubs if a team moves to the lower tier. It would do this through geographical restrictions so that new clubs are not on top of existing ones geographically.
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@EOTL - on this, we concur; maybe pro without rel? as I similarly posted couple days ago (the preview window shows the wrong post but clicking on the link brings up the correct page):

Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

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timmyh said:
ECRL is ECNL 2nd teams (R is regional and the N is for National).

GAL is Girls Academy League, which is now the highest tier of DPL and apparently why where many ex-DA clubs that didn't get into ECNL/ECRL will put their top teams next year.
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Soon to be the top tier. :) If things continue.
 
Soccer said:
I have posted this before. It comes down to space at showcases, this is fact, believe it or not, Surf, RSC and Charlotte got the last three spots. Louisville FC was getting in for 20-21 until this DA debacle. Not sure if the will get ECRL. There is the mandated 20-21 Regional league, B teams of ECNL teams. There was not to be cross play with this. They are waiting to see how many accept of the former DA teams into a 1 year Regional league, if enough accept this will be seperate from B team regional league. This league will have cross play in the fact the winners of their respective regions can qualify for Champions Playoffs. They are Working on logistics of regional showcases for this league too, not a guarantee.

Texas wants a 10 month season, so the former DA frontier group is floating their own league. I am sure Albion and Carlsbad are floating something too, they are not getting a spot intothe new ECNL regional league.

The clubs that have the most to lose are the bottom ECNL clubs, because in 21-22 season the whole thing will be reevaluated, bigger venues for showcases and talk of making two legit tiers. Or dropping underperforners.
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Don't confuse playoffs with showcases. By the way, the third game in the showcases is a waste of time. First two games we always had at least 60-80 coaches, last game maybe 10-12. Make showcases regional, different weekends with two games only. Much better for players than flying 4- 6 hours across country only to get up the next morning for a 9:00 game which is really 6:00 where you flew from. Ya that was a lot of fun. So then players started having to come a day early so as not to be supper jet lagged, more money, more money.
 
Soccer said:
They are waiting to see how many accept of the former DA teams into a 1 year Regional league, if enough accept this will be seperate from B team regional league. This league will have cross play in the fact the winners of their respective regions can qualify for Champions Playoffs.
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So, three leagues for 2020-2021? And they are referring to two of the leagues as ECRL or ECNL Regional League.
 
I'm guessing there will be 2 in ECNL. Main top division and ECRL for the B teams and maybe select club 1st teams. Then, GAL and DPL as the "competition". Local leagues will always be there but won't add those for discussion. Don't worry folks, a 3rd league will pop up before May! The "The girls elite premier diamond development academy of soccer" GEPDAS!
 
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