Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Not being argumentative but I’m hearing the teams not accepted to ECNL will not be accepted in ECRL either.
That was true for 19-20 season, but not for 20-21. Pats already posted openly on their website their girls will participate in ECRL next year.

@Woobie06 is pretty much spot on. In 19-20 season, the two AZ teams did not participate in the SW division of ECRL, so it was indeed "regional" and a good thing IMO. I hope that remains the case next year. ECNL for kids who wants to travel, and ECRL for kids that want to play locally.
 
That was true for 19-20 season, but not for 20-21. Pats already posted openly on their website their girls will participate in ECRL next year.

@Woobie06 is pretty much spot on. In 19-20 season, the two AZ teams did not participate in the SW division of ECRL, so it was indeed "regional" and a good thing IMO. I hope that remains the case next year. ECNL for kids who wants to travel, and ECRL for kids that want to play locally.
I was told the Pats scenario was because their boys are in ECNL.
 
Pro/Rel is the epitomy of Capitalism. You don't produce a quality product, then you don't belong on the elite list and someone who steps up to produce a quality product will take your place. Communism is the existing ECNL commune. Everyone gets a share, regardless of the amount of effort or the quality of the effort and no one ever gets pushed out of the commune. How is it financially unsustainable? The bottom 2-3 leave and another 2-3 replace them. Someone on the bottom is always willing to foot the bill to get in the door.

Uh huh, sure. If promotion/relegation were the epitome of capitalism, that is what would be happening. Youth soccer is just about as pure a free market as could possibly exist. There’s no meaningful government regulation of any kind. Zippo.

When you say “How is it financially unsustainable? the bottom 2-3 leave and another 2-3 replace them“ you make no attempt to address the financial consequences if that were to happen. I have. Just go back and read a couple posts back.

Again, I’m just telling you what is actually happening and why. You’re speculating about hopes and dreams without ever having taken a business class, having run a real business of having even the slightest understanding of the dynamics of youth soccer. If you’re right, it should be easy peasy to take down ECNL with your “epitome of capitalism”. Why don’t you go do it?
 
Pro/Rel is the epitomy of Capitalism. You don't produce a quality product, then you don't belong on the elite list and someone who steps up to produce a quality product will take your place. Communism is the existing ECNL commune. Everyone gets a share, regardless of the amount of effort or the quality of the effort and no one ever gets pushed out of the commune. How is it financially unsustainable? The bottom 2-3 leave and another 2-3 replace them. Someone on the bottom is always willing to foot the bill to get in the door.
Is this a joke Emma?
 
My kid played DPL and Part Times DA the last 3 years. It was a good way for her to train with the best but get a lot of play time on the DPL team. She is headed next fall to play D3 at a decent school and we could not be happier. She is a very smart kid and we feel fortunate she gets to play for the next four years at a very good academic institution. We knew she never would be a NWT player or most likely D1. She plays for the I’ve of the game and I look forward to watching her play the next 4 years
winner winner chicken dinner.......nice to see someone gets it
 
It’s very possible and quite likely that some ECNL clubs won’t exist by the time the kids start playing again. Much can change between now and the restart.

Anything can happen and I would not be surprised by this at all. I also would not be surprised with some clubs communicating rosters and asking for commitments now with deposits for the 20-21. There will be hard presses for parents to pay now to keep the coaches/DOC’s employed and paid. It’s going to be really interesting to see what happens and what people do and how clubs react. So will pay, some won’t.
 
Only way that happens is if the parents don’t have enough faith in the Coaching staff at DA Clubs who have to swallow the bitter pill and play ECRL to prove their way up like Pats chose to do.

These times will show who really believes in “Follow the Coach, not the League”........
Exactly. I moved my DD to follow her coach since the LAGSB days. Coach loves to Beach and atill
I know, but don’t think Clubs like Beach didn’t already experience that for years prior to DA. I am hoping parents see the long game (overly optimistic, I know). Next year is on the rocks anyway. Likely no real National Showcases and USSF shuttered the YNT program at every age not in a WC Cycle (No Coach, no budget, no scout to stay in favor with). I already know a lot former DA Clubs have lost top talent and I am sure Beach will too.

The decisions the Clubs have to make are double edged swords and neither lends itself to retaining talent.

the decision for my “07 DA” DD to stay at Beach will definitely be for the coach.I’ve seen parents come and go for the badge. It falls heavily on the trust of the coach.
 
Exactly. I moved my DD to follow her coach since the LAGSB days. Coach loves to Beach and atill


the decision for my “07 DA” DD to stay at Beach will definitely be for the coach.I’ve seen parents come and go for the badge. It falls heavily on the trust of the coach.
That makes sense. If you don't mind divulging, how is the club, coach and team dealing with this craziness?
 
That makes sense. If you don't mind divulging, how is the club, coach and team dealing with this craziness?
For me personally just another day in this madness. I’ve seen a lot of change in the SB for the past two years. I’ve been thrown the word “elite”, “academy”, and everything along those lines. My coach called me first and was honest. I trust him. I have for the past 5 years. When we were told we were merging with Beach it was no different. When he called me pitching ECNRL it was no different. As long. As my daughter is happy and getting better she feels the same. Plus I know the “DA” staff as coaches were great. Heard nothing but good things.
 
Uh huh, sure. If promotion/relegation were the epitome of capitalism, that is what would be happening. Youth soccer is just about as pure a free market as could possibly exist. There’s no meaningful government regulation of any kind. Zippo.

When you say “How is it financially unsustainable? the bottom 2-3 leave and another 2-3 replace them“ you make no attempt to address the financial consequences if that were to happen. I have. Just go back and read a couple posts back.

Again, I’m just telling you what is actually happening and why. You’re speculating about hopes and dreams without ever having taken a business class, having run a real business of having even the slightest understanding of the dynamics of youth soccer. If you’re right, it should be easy peasy to take down ECNL with your “epitome of capitalism”. Why don’t you go do it?
hogwash. same argument says it was easy to take on Standard Oil or Southern Pacific.

However, I am in this for fun and good games. if you feed me plane flights for blowouts, there are other sports.
 
hogwash. same argument says it was easy to take on Standard Oil or Southern Pacific.

However, I am in this for fun and good games. if you feed me plane flights for blowouts, there are other sports.

It must be time to get Teddy Roosevelt involved.
 
It must be time to get Teddy Roosevelt involved.
Not happening.

My best bet is ECNL gets their way and 10% of kids move. You give the olders a useless season of blowouts in ECRL, plus the same half great, half diluted ECNL they had last year.

After that wasted year, we get to find out whether there is a grown up in the room.
 
Would be interesting to hear from DA families if the teams in general, and girls specifically, will stay with this DPL league. I imagine that Beach, ALbion and Legends are calling the other clubs that are not in the ECNL to try to get them to join. Liverpool.... which others?
Rangers, SDSClub, BYSCorona all come to mind
 
I have posted this before. It comes down to space at showcases, this is fact, believe it or not, Surf, RSC and Charlotte got the last three spots. Louisville FC was getting in for 20-21 until this DA debacle. Not sure if the will get ECRL. There is the mandated 20-21 Regional league, B teams of ECNL teams. There was not to be cross play with this. They are waiting to see how many accept of the former DA teams into a 1 year Regional league, if enough accept this will be seperate from B team regional league. This league will have cross play in the fact the winners of their respective regions can qualify for Champions Playoffs. They are Working on logistics of regional showcases for this league too, not a guarantee.

Texas wants a 10 month season, so the former DA frontier group is floating their own league. I am sure Albion and Carlsbad are floating something too, they are not getting a spot intothe new ECNL regional league.

The clubs that have the most to lose are the bottom ECNL clubs, because in 21-22 season the whole thing will be reevaluated, bigger venues for showcases and talk of making two legit tiers. Or dropping underperforners.
 
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