Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

dreamz said:
Your crystal ball looks pretty clear From where I’m sitting.

I could see some movement within ECNL moving some of the weaker ECNL clubs (LA Breakers, DMCV, Rebels) to either a ECNL 2 or ECNLRL. With Surf, Blues, Legends and Beach moving to ECNL (not confirmed but it’s pretty close to being finalized) there is no way DMCV, Breakers or Rebels can compete. LV Albion in Vegas is on the losing side of this deal along with Albion, City SC, Pats and most likely West Coast. Especially since West Coast dropped Boys ECNL. I don’t see them getting back in to ECNL. The unknown is RSC. They should get back in to ECNL but if SD Surf worked a deal for LA Surf to get a spot and Eagles are already in ECNL, that may not leave an opportunity for RSC.

I think by 4/15 this will all be clearer.
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dreamz said:
Not all of them. The top ones will have 2 teams in ECNL. One in the top division. The other in the RL. lower level teams will get 1 team. Existing may have 1 team in RL if they are bad in regular ECNL already (think DMCV, Breakers, clubs like that). Not everyone gets 2 teams.
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Which current DA clubs are in a world of hurt do you think?
 
I am curious how ECNL would decide which clubs would be playing in the lower tier ECNL league as opposed to the top tier. What I mean is - say a club has a few stronger teams and a few weaker teams. Clubs are not always consistent across age groups. Of course some are obvious top tier clubs, and some are obvious bottom feeders. But the middle of the pack clubs are much harder to differentiate across the board (success of their different age groups vary significantly).
 
GT45 said:
I am curious how ECNL would decide which clubs would be playing in the lower tier ECNL league as opposed to the top tier. What I mean is - say a club has a few stronger teams and a few weaker teams. Clubs are not always consistent across age groups. Of course some are obvious top tier clubs, and some are obvious bottom feeders. But the middle of the pack clubs are much harder to differentiate across the board (success of their different age groups vary significantly).
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I am hoping it is year by year. Even the top 60 clubs would include a lot of mediocre teams if you have to include all 6 teams from every club.
 
A truly top national league with pro / rel where clubs were replaced for poor performance would a good thing for soccer on this country, I want our ladies to keep winning world cups and inspiring our DDs......asking for a list of "bottom feeder" GDA teams is only going to get people naming the clubs they do not like......I work in an unglamorous "essential" industry where a large part of my job is crunching figures for ordering amounts, weights and percentages of mixes.....it will take me or any one else who wants to step up a half hour max to give the rankings for GDA based on actual standings........there is 5 age groups and 14 Southwest teams in each of those......I will try to do it in my lunch break if nobody else has done it by then.................
 
Awful lot of detail timely dripping out from only one single person on this Board despite there being hundreds/thousands of people here involved in both ECNL and DA.
 
As we all wait for youth soccer to sort itself out today, enjoy 28:26 of some serious sports moments. I love sports and mess it dearly. I will never take my sports for granted ever again. Go America and go Soccer!!!

 
EOTL said:
You get an F- in Business 101. If there are a “bunch of mini-monopolies”, this means there are no monopolies at all. Clubs still have tremendous incentive to provide value to their customers because there are so many other options. If Blues doesn’t float your boat for any reason, there are other ECNL clubs. If you don’t want want to pay what it costs to play for an ECNL club, go to any of the other multitude of clubs. If your kid isn’t good enough to play ECNL, also go to one of those clubs, or play on a lower team at a club that has ECNL.

An open system of promotion/relegation makes no financial sense for ECNL clubs. At most, you’ll see ECNL provide a (still closed) system of maybe two tiers but probably not even that on the girls side. Why? If it can slay the US Soccer dragon without them, why would it screw up a system that works?

The successful business model of ECNL depends on the high quality of the member clubs. But even if they do go to two tiers, they still aren’t going to let any yahoo team with a 12-year old superstar into their league. You keep demanding access to things that cost a lot of money without having to pay for it and without doing the work to earn it.
When are you going to figure out that ECNL does not care that your daughter’s team U12 team is really good? They care only that member clubs are financially stable, which is necessary to ensure members can pay the substantial costs necessary to participate, and also that clubs can regularly field quality and committed teams at all age levels.

You also claim ECNL was created to extract money from the pockets of parents, which is just dumb. Really dumb. Just like virtually every single legitimate business in America, ECNL was created to provide a service or goods in exchange for compensation, and in a sustainable manner that allows the business to reap an appropriate profit. The ECNL/GDA battle is a perfect example of the market working. GDA was financially unsustainable, so it failed. ECNL and all the other SoCal youth soccer leagues that remain are financial sustainable and, go figure, they still exist. If ECNL becomes inefficient and stops proving good value for the market - as it did when it excluded too many SD clubs - rivals like GDA will again rise up to fill the gap. Maybe the next one won’t be as dumb as USSF.
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I agree. My kid got good value from the ECNL. I recouped all of her club costs from U9 through U18 (U14-U18 ECNL) in her first year of college. GDA was never necessary once ECNL was created. Just another example of the hubris of US Soccer.

Good luck to everyone out there during this trying time.
 
GDA Current Standings (Based on PPG)
AVG StandingsU14U15U16U17U18/U19
San Diego Surf2.421441
Legends 417525
LA Galaxy536178
Real So Cal5.2482102
Beach Futbol Club6.6132639
SC Blues6.6649113
Albion SC7.25510511
LA Galaxy San Diego8.210133114
Pateadores9.21212787
SC del Sol9.211312614
LA Surf SC9.49911126
Utah Royals FC - Arizona9.814118133
OC Surf Soccer10.671413910
Albion SC Las Vegas11.6810141412



futboldad1 said:
A truly top national league with pro / rel where clubs were replaced for poor performance would a good thing for soccer on this country, I want our ladies to keep winning world cups and inspiring our DDs......asking for a list of "bottom feeder" GDA teams is only going to get people naming the clubs they do not like......I work in an unglamorous "essential" industry where a large part of my job is crunching figures for ordering amounts, weights and percentages of mixes.....it will take me or any one else who wants to step up a half hour max to give the rankings for GDA based on actual standings........there is 5 age groups and 14 Southwest teams in each of those......I will try to do it in my lunch break if nobody else has done it by then.................
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sdb said:
GDA Current Standings (Based on PPG)
AVG StandingsU14U15U16U17U18/U19
San Diego Surf2.421441
Legends417525
LA Galaxy536178
Real So Cal5.2482102
Beach Futbol Club6.6132639
SC Blues6.6649113
Albion SC7.25510511
LA Galaxy San Diego8.210133114
Pateadores9.21212787
SC del Sol9.211312614
LA Surf SC9.49911126
Utah Royals FC - Arizona9.814118133
OC Surf Soccer10.671413910
Albion SC Las Vegas11.6810141412
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This is great. Once the dust settles on which clubs got in and which didn't i'd love to see how much DA standings factored in, teams outside of So Cal included.
 
Copa9 said:
I don't know a single player on dd DA team who wants to play high school. I am sure there are areas of the country where the parents and players like the rah rah of high school soccer, good for them. Sort of the big fish in the little pond, stokes their egos for some sort of recognition. If that is what they want, go for it.
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My player didn't play DA but she played ECNL and loved high school soccer. She got to play with her friends one that she played AYSO with and she never would have gotten to do that without high school soccer. Fast forward she just graduated college and is a pro now and she still is close friends with many more of those girls from her high school team than the "mercenaries" from her club team.

If this pandemic has taught us anything it is that life is too short and this whole soccer journey eventually comes to an end. I am a firm believer in letting our daughters write their own stories. Good luck to everyone and stay safe.
 
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