Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA
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Thinking the same thing.
Girls DA was (supposedly) created to provide equality from our national federation for boys and girls to play at the highest levels.
But now US Soccer can get out of the youth development business because MLS clubs will take that on for the Boys side. Kids in less populated areas will get hosed, but that's the case for a lot of things (schools, jobs, shopping malls, etc). And since US Soccer won't be in the business for boys, they can also get out of the girls side of things.
I could see US Soccer doing some sort of extended national training camps to bring in more girls to get exposure for National Teams. Something like ODP but maybe on a larger scale. Maybe even do a month long "camp" for 150ish girls per age group at the National Training Center in Kansas City. Say bye to your summer vacation if you are truly elite.
Gotta admit I see this as a net benefit for soccer in the US. Perhaps some handful of clubs will go create their super league, but for the vast majority of serious players with designs on playing beyond high school, consolidation of clubs back into a single league is a huge win for them and their families.
azsnowrider
SILVER ELITE
Wouldn't this apply to the ECNL as well? This hits everyone, I wouldn't think its just a GDA issue. I'm less worried about US Soccer's GDA ability to survive, I'm more worried about the clubs and that applies to ECNL ones as well. I have already seen/heard of cuts and even at the MLS level...
Extensive travel for the top 20 or 40 teams is fine. I don’t mind a plane flight to play against team #20. I have no intention of paying for a plane flight to play against team #101.
outside!
DA
I disagree. As long as the league is based on club memberships, it creates a bunch of mini-monopolies for those clubs in their regions. The member clubs have less incentive to treat players and parents fairly. If the league membership were based purely on team results in each age group, and had true promotion and relegation that provided a pathway for any team to join based on results, then clubs would have incentive to treat players and parents with respect. Do not mistake my argument as a defense of GDA which was beyond any doubt a flawed league with all of these same problems. ECNL was not created to better develop players, it was created to extract money from your pockets to club DOC's and the ECNL organization. The best system would be for no club based leagues and a return to a system like USYS National League and National Championships. In that system, teams earned their place and clubs worked to retain good teams and coaches.
Soccerfan2
GOLD
Can you expand upon what you know of the restructuring?
ECNL has DMCV Sharks and Rebels both in Surf’s back yard (or front porch in regards to DMCV).
LA Galaxy only has an academy funded by the MLS team. Not sure those 4 teams exist in ECNL as I don’t see LAG continuing to fund an ECNL team. Blues already has ECNL.
It would suck for us (my family and many others in our area) of DA disbanded unless ECNL picks up Galaxy or Beach. Nevertheless, as long as we can keep the Coaching staff we have, we are happy regardless of the league.
Blues has ECNL and DA. It will interesting to see how they deal with combining the teams.
Or who would coach the ECNL teams.
From the Spot
SILVER
Can you see a situation where the DA clubs just create their own league separate from US Soccer but maintaining the DA structure?
I think West Coast is OC Surf now.
The “Academy” went back to West Coast FC
oh canada
GOLD
A lot of hysteria being projected here based on a general Tweet...let's all keep the toilet paper on the shelves.
What is likely? DA is not going to leave all of its clubs hanging without a league for this next year---to begin a few months from now. If they are going to get out of providing a league, it will be a phase out and announced well in advance.
More likely is that they will announce a cancellation of the rest of this season (duh), and will keep their league operating, just make changes to rules/restrictions--eg, allowing high school. Maybe also expand the division system as they have experimented with in a couple age groups on the boys side.
ECNL has no incentive to let other clubs in -- they don't need 'em. Especially since their only competitor is floundering.
One thing for sure...look for clubs to try and get your money asap so you're locked in with them. As usual in club soccer, the kids are an afterthought. Advice to youngers parents...find another sport. The BS in this youth sport isn't worth it.
What is likely? DA is not going to leave all of its clubs hanging without a league for this next year---to begin a few months from now. If they are going to get out of providing a league, it will be a phase out and announced well in advance.
More likely is that they will announce a cancellation of the rest of this season (duh), and will keep their league operating, just make changes to rules/restrictions--eg, allowing high school. Maybe also expand the division system as they have experimented with in a couple age groups on the boys side.
ECNL has no incentive to let other clubs in -- they don't need 'em. Especially since their only competitor is floundering.
One thing for sure...look for clubs to try and get your money asap so you're locked in with them. As usual in club soccer, the kids are an afterthought. Advice to youngers parents...find another sport. The BS in this youth sport isn't worth it.
I can't on a national basis. I think that's possible regionally, but for areas with an ECNL presence it seems much more likely the majority of DA teams will look to join that existing framework.
IDK, they rolled out the DA pretty fast and they can take it away even faster.
azsnowrider
SILVER ELITE
ECNL needs Legends, Surf, Beach and one top Blues team to make this a complete done deal. I welcome them. I also like the idea of a super socal league with international rules for the super goats. No hs and all in mentality. All free too.
Yeah it's called the DPL, its already in existence....
Good point.
How many times are you going to misuse the terms “monopoly” and “corrupt”? Not getting what you want simply because you’re too cheap to pay for it does not make a company either of those things. There are literally thousands of youth soccer clubs that don’t play ECNL and hundreds of leagues. Even those that do play ECNL typically have teams playing in other leagues. To the extent you keep getting bent out of shape that the best clubs have no interest in playing the lesser ones that you were willing to pay for, that is your problem. You get what you pay for.
You might have something there. You might also be ignoring the obvious fact that when a group of clubs declares themselves to be too good to play anyone outside their exclusive group they will be suspected of trying to pull a fast one.