Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

soccer4us said:
I've said it before and will say it again. One of the main factors in accepting new clubs right now that no one is talking about. IF THEY ADD TOO MANY, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AT THEIR SHOWCASES TO PUT ALL TEAMS AT 1 COMPLEX. This is much more important then anyone gives credit for. Some politics of course is there like anything, but this is one of the biggest factors. Otherwise the product you give clubs won't be nearly as good and that's a big negative.
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They’ll find a way. Shorter game time. Spreading age groups across different weeks. Or maybe now they’ll just buy some land in the middle of now where and build a massive soccer complex that will house all showcases.
 
chiefs said:
I wouldn't have anything to do with USSF. After not having any guts or leadership to contact member DA clubs about their laughable excuse for their fold, they say this: Please contact us to learn more about how you can play a role in developing a new unified and comprehensive structure that develops world-class players through an elite competitive pathway.

What a complete sham of an organization....
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Which one? USSF or USYS?
While their mission is supposed to be the same, they have mostly been competing with each other in the recent past.
 
Ansu Fati said:
just to be clear, its USYS- US Youth Soccer- that issued that statement.

not USSF- United States Soccer Federation, or United States Space Force. (I agree, both are complete shams)
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My sources tell me that Dr. Zopfi is a good dude that deserves the benefit of the doubt. I think think the confusion from the previous poster is because Dr. Zopfi is also a USSF board member.
 
soccer4us said:
I've said it before and will say it again. One of the main factors in accepting new clubs right now that no one is talking about. IF THEY ADD TOO MANY, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AT THEIR SHOWCASES TO PUT ALL TEAMS AT 1 COMPLEX. This is much more important then anyone gives credit for. Some politics of course is there like anything, but this is one of the biggest factors. Otherwise the product you give clubs won't be nearly as good and that's a big negative.
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Why does the 596th best team in the country need to be at a national complex? And why is it important enough to leave out the second best team in the country?

Looking at Sharks and Legends for U14. If I were a scout, I think I’d rather watch Legends.
 
Ellejustus said:
@everyoneonhere I woke up this morning feeling sick to my stomach. I had so much pain I got lower back pain from it. I feel like I woke up from a 3 year nightmare of USSF coma. The destruction and pain caused by this company, USSF is so clear, they could only blame it on Corona. They think they got out of this one. I read it again this morning and I'm super duper angry. Be careful what you say to me today. Go ahead and make fun of me today. We ALL have a right to complain and be angry. All this false and misleading information makes it worse. This is far from over. These clubs (nat all, some did very well as partners with USSF) have been wronged big time. Parents have been wronged big time and more importantly, the girls have been treated bad again by some men who don;t care about girls. It's so obvious. Run, run and run some more until we catch you.....lol!!!!!
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TunaHelper, what happened to "... I have no more rants left"?
 
dad4 said:
Why does the 596th best team in the country need to be at a national complex? And why is it important enough to leave out the second best team in the country?

Looking at Sharks and Legends for U14. If I were a scout, I think I’d rather watch Legends.
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Not once those Legends 06s all leave to Blues and Slammers which is guaranteed to happen.
 
SoccerFrenzy said:
What is happening with Beach, Legends and LAGSB?
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LAGSB no longer exists, Legends is going to lose a lot of talent to Blues of Slammers (many already had left a year before this), Beach have the strongest teams and I don't know what will happen but some players will leave for ECNL competition.
 
Dof3 said:
I hope that Legends and Beach will be added to ECNL SW. If not this year then certainly next year. They put good teams on the field. And I would surely prefer to go to San Diego than Phoenix for regular games. Same for FC Dallas and TopHat. You have to beat the best to claim you are the best. That goes for all of these clubs. But I can't help but wonder if the DA contingent here would be complaining that DA wasn't opening its doors for all the ECNL clubs if ECNL self-immolated today. It is really pathetic for an organization that is supposed to be the steward of this sport to have behaved so incompetently for kids at a time when those kids are trapped at home in an actual crisis. Who among us would still have a job if we executed the way US Soccer has this week? But, again, where was the DA contingent's outrage when not so long ago the message to ECNL kids was come to the DA or it will adversely affect your shot at the YNT? Who trades on a kid's dreams for personal gain and spitefulness? Should any of us be surprised that an organization that would do that to kids would be so low as they have been to end their league in this fashion?
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FC Dallas is already in ECNL.
 
dad4 said:
Why does the 596th best team in the country need to be at a national complex? And why is it important enough to leave out the second best team in the country?

Looking at Sharks and Legends for U14. If I were a scout, I think I’d rather watch Legends.
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My message chopped my first sentence which was "I totally agree but:". Though still might b stronger than Sharks. o_O

the ussf are an disgrace!!!!
 
The Outlaw said:
Haven't heard anything but it seems like you could justify an ECNL club, perhaps 2, in the South Bay. Yes?
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I've heard 2 things from Nor Cal people. A week ago, I heard 3 of the 4 DA would go ECNL to make 10 in their division. More recently I'm hearing it could even be zero due to the fact it seems ECNL isn't adding as many nation wide as first assumed once DA rumors started. Quakes and Thorns are solid in the East Bay but many good clubs won't be in ECNL from DA as we're finding out here in So Cal.
 
Ellejustus said:
Lester, you are or you're or your or ur one interesting American. I change with the wind, you should no better brother American. Where is your goat playing next year?
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I got nothing but love for you, Spicoli. You're a king sized pain in the ass... but everyone is good at something. My goat lives and plays in NorCal. I'm just here to glean off you SoCal maniacs. Unfortunately, I know more about you and your goat than I ever intended.
 
soccer4us said:
I've said it before and will say it again. One of the main factors in accepting new clubs right now that no one is talking about. IF THEY ADD TOO MANY, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AT THEIR SHOWCASES TO PUT ALL TEAMS AT 1 COMPLEX. This is much more important then anyone gives credit for. Some politics of course is there like anything, but this is one of the biggest factors. Otherwise the product you give clubs won't be nearly as good and that's a big negative.
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They didn't have problems adding tons of boys' teams. :cool:

While what you said makes sense, I think that argument would have been more convincing if the two teams added were SD Surf and Legends.
 
dad4 said:
Why does the 596th best team in the country need to be at a national complex? And why is it important enough to leave out the second best team in the country?

Looking at Sharks and Legends for U14. If I were a scout, I think I’d rather watch Legends.
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No one disagrees with that but ECNL right now won't kill their reputation by doing that to their current members. One of the main reasons club join ECNL is how terrific their showcases are. With college recruiting arguably the most important part for parents especially, this would cause lots of issues for Lavers.
 
Messi>CR7 said:
They didn't have problems adding tons of boys' teams. :cool:

While what you said makes sense, but I think that argument would have been more convincing if the two teams added were SD Surf and Legends.
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Different case especially in terms of level of play. Clearly Boys ECNL is new and building. Girls ECNL in general is at the highest of levels for youth soccer.

Agree. RSC over legends is connections and former member. RSC is certainly a good club but not Legends/Beach level currently. Safe to say, politics is involved in everything in life :)
 
soccer4us said:
I've heard 2 things from Nor Cal people. A week ago, I heard 3 of the 4 DA would go ECNL to make 10 in their division. More recently I'm hearing it could even be zero due to the fact it seems ECNL isn't adding as many nation wide as first assumed once DA rumors started. Quakes and Thorns are solid in the East Bay but many good clubs won't be in ECNL from DA as we're finding out here in So Cal.
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Thorns and Quakes are actually San Jose based. There's already a glut of ECNL further north, but those San Jose DA programs draw girls from 2 hours, in nearly every direction, so it'll be interesting to see what they do. San Jose is a hotbed in NorCal and it seems like they could easily justify 1 club there.
 
soccer4us said:
I've heard 2 things from Nor Cal people. A week ago, I heard 3 of the 4 DA would go ECNL to make 10 in their division. More recently I'm hearing it could even be zero due to the fact it seems ECNL isn't adding as many nation wide as first assumed once DA rumors started. Quakes and Thorns are solid in the East Bay but many good clubs won't be in ECNL from DA as we're finding out here in So Cal.
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This interesting.....I want to be brutally honest.....and I am talking Southwest here, 26 clubs was too many (12 ECNL and 14 DA).....Real got in but if they hadn't not my DD and I would've been prepared to drive to play the best opponents with the best exposure......the talent will amass in the ECNL as 26 "elite" teams in each age group became 14.....that is going to drive the quality of the rosters and games way up.....it is not a DA vs ECNL thing, it would have happened wither way but main takeaway is by adding too many clubs they would be repeating the same mistakes of the past....just drive if you want to play ECNL and don't if you don't want to.....I am talking strictly SW here where the ECNL clubs are reachable with effort, it may be way too far in the NW (I would not do a 4 hour round trip for any club! but I am okay with 2 or even a bit more)
 
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