Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

I really hope that with this change people can quickly move away from bitterness and pettiness (e.g. lawsuits, freezing other clubs out) and move forward to a model that best serves the US youth soccer landscape as a whole. Wishful thinking perhaps and planning for future turbulence but still hoping...
 
EOTL said:
Huh? I’ve never said anything about a power struggle or not caring about the kids. I’ve been pretty clear at all times that ECNL has always been a superior platform and it was only a matter of time until it played out. That’s not a power struggle. It’s a fact. We all know ECNL is cheaper, which is better for the kids. ECNL provides flexibility, including giving kids the choice to play HS if they choose and not forcing them to train four days a week, which is good for kids. ECNL provides more flexible substitution rules and is safer, which is also good for kids. ECNL doesn’t make you miss 10 days of school, including the week before winter finals, which is good for kids. ECNL doesn’t make you pay hundreds to fly to Denver to watch the snow fall, also good for kids.

I have obviously said GDA sucks and explained why. And then I did it over and over again for some of the more dense folk in your little mafia. Then I rubbed it in your faces for about a year after GDA entered the death spiral. And now I’m just gloating.

I will say it’s nice to see ya’ll getting past the first stage of grief (denial) and moving on stage two (anger). But if you’re going to be angry, be angry with yourselves for getting duped by USSF, not the guy who tried to warn you.

FYI, you might not want to get snarky with your ACL commentary because, if you’ve been at this site long enough, you should know how that can go sideways pretty fast.
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Who said I supported DA?

I agree with you that DA sucks. I just don’t see why ECNL is much better, though I agree with you on sub rules. Limited subs is a recipe for playing while hurt.

ACL and concussions are important. That’s not snark. That is frustration coming out. My kid is getting near puberty and headers, therefore it is time to decide whether to drop the sport entirely.

How many ACL tears and repeat concussions in your league last year? How many ACL tears and repeat concussions at your club? Do you even know?

Does ECNL even track the data? If you don’t track the data, how on earth can you hope to keep the kids safe?
 
EOTL said:
In my experience, the parents who’ve been dogmatic in their belief that there’s one right way to make a great soccer player tend to have daughters who are neither great soccer players nor particularly successful at much of anything. Have any of the anti-HS folks here ever had a daughter play and make a meaningful contribution in the PAC-12 or ACC? Or go to med, law or business school? If so, please stand up.
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Damn it EOTL, you are like the second coming of MAP. You started out seeming a bit full of yourself, but damn if you do not make a lot of sense.

I might not narrowly define playing in the PAC-12 or ACC as college soccer success, but your point is spot on.
 
Dos Equis said:
Damn it EOTL, you are like the second coming of MAP. You started out seeming a bit full of yourself, but damn if you do not make a lot of sense.

I might not narrowly define playing in the PAC-12 or ACC as college soccer success, but your point is spot on.
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I concede that I might speak with a slightly parabolic arc. For what it’s worth, it’s not coincidence that I haven’t teed off on you.
 
Sunil Illuminati said:
Here’s what gonna happen. Nothing has changed. ECNL is weak. Lavers is owned by the Khoury’s and will keep Legends and Beach out and Surf will snake in! Business as usual
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DA is weak too. Strikers, Pats, Real so cal, Aresnal and Nomads are still DA on the boy side.

DA for the girls was suppose to be fully funded by the clubs. Beach and legends were charging an arm and a leg to be on those teams. Then lets not get started with the politics to get on those teams.
 
SoccerGeek said:
DA is weak too. Strikers, Pats, Real so cal, Aresnal and Nomads are still DA on the boy side.

DA for the girls was suppose to be fully funded by the clubs. Beach and legends were charging an arm and a leg to be on those teams. Then lets not get started with the politics to get on those teams.
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Are you sure? by tomorrow I’d be surprised if any of those boys teams you named are DA. Who said Girls DA was supposed to be fully funded show your source? I’ve never seen that announced anywhere?
 
whatithink said:
If its true, I don't follow the rationale on the boys side for the MLS teams. With the opening up of training fees when selling on players, boys DA could be a lucrative revenue stream, plus developing your own players is cheaper than having to buy. They (MLS) also need a funnel system or at least a development system which has a high level of play to help them scout. For US Soccer to abandon DA on the boys side … well they might as well just resign on mass as they are clearly giving up on any long term plan for the USMNT.

As far as GDA vs ECNL, there was never that much wrong with ECNL that US Soccer couldn't have worked with ECNL to resolve IMV. Their heavy handed approach was stupid from the start. Assuming GDA goes away, we'll end up with a worse situation than before as both have become watered down and now you'll have clubs out of GDA, but better than most ECNL teams, looking in. On the bright side the 4 day mandatory, no HS and play time restrictions go away … my biggest complaints on GDA.

IMV, ECNL would be best served to take the moral high road, take all the GDA teams, but split into 2 divisions, with clear promotion/relegation for teams (not clubs), and also with clear criteria for clubs to retain status. The top divisions would have the best teams (not clubs) from ECNL/GDA and ditto for the second. That would solve the 2-team clubs also. Very unlikely it'll ever happen though I'd imagine.
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DA was never a good talent pool for USMNT because of heavy politics in both entities and the way players were selected. Some DA clubs had about a handful of good players and 10 to 14 cash cow players in their roster whose job was to dish out money, dues and contributions to the club. Some of these kids wouldn't even make it in the flight 2 teams if they tried out.
The richer the parents and their contributions, the more play time for their kids, especially in areas where one or two DA clubs provided a monopoly
 
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