Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

dad4 said:
EOTL has made it pretty clear that this is a power struggle between clubs, and that the kids/parents don't matter one bit. Good to find that out now, I guess. Better than spending 20K to give my dd a chance to blow her ACL.
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He’s right. But anyone who thought otherwise is kinda foolish. CLUB soccer is a business, period! Kids/families matter, only to the extent of the limit on their credit/debit cards. They need US fools and our money to maintain a viable business. Notice I said “Us”? My name is Kicknit22, I’m a soccer-holic. I’ve been CLUB free for 6mo now and happy as hell.
 
Soccer43 said:
What does that even mean that they have a "working partnership" ? It says nothing really and if I were a parent I would be irritated by this.
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When I read stuff like that, it tells me competition for my kids spot just got a lot tougher. When 2 clubs (or more) do a deal like that, part of the deal is a club wants a fair amount of their kids to make the top team. Politics. Not saying bad players are coming in. But normally if 2 kids are equal and one is from outside of the club, the club will pick the in club player. Now due to the "merger" you get 2 kids of equal ability, the kid currently on the team may now lose out to a kid from the new merged club due to politics.
 
Has anyone with a DA player been contacted by ECNL coaches yet?
You know the ecnl coaches all have a their liars ready to start calling as soon as this is announced. Won’t be a need for any ecnl tryouts. Coaches already know who they want from the DA teams.
Will they just fatten their rosters? Will they cut players? Will players be told “don’t worry we have a plan for everyone”. And then some get moved to Regional League or SCDSL teams?
Do we even “need” regional league anymore?
 
dad4 said:
EOTL seems to like to make people angry, and play stupid when presented with arguments.

He's also doing a pretty good job of changing my opinion on ECNL. I used to like it.

EOTL has made it pretty clear that this is a power struggle between clubs, and that the kids/parents don't matter one bit. Good to find that out now, I guess. Better than spending 20K to give my dd a chance to blow her ACL.
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Huh? I’ve never said anything about a power struggle or not caring about the kids. I’ve been pretty clear at all times that ECNL has always been a superior platform and it was only a matter of time until it played out. That’s not a power struggle. It’s a fact. We all know ECNL is cheaper, which is better for the kids. ECNL provides flexibility, including giving kids the choice to play HS if they choose and not forcing them to train four days a week, which is good for kids. ECNL provides more flexible substitution rules and is safer, which is also good for kids. ECNL doesn’t make you miss 10 days of school, including the week before winter finals, which is good for kids. ECNL doesn’t make you pay hundreds to fly to Denver to watch the snow fall, also good for kids.

I have obviously said GDA sucks and explained why. And then I did it over and over again for some of the more dense folk in your little mafia. Then I rubbed it in your faces for about a year after GDA entered the death spiral. And now I’m just gloating.

I will say it’s nice to see ya’ll getting past the first stage of grief (denial) and moving on stage two (anger). But if you’re going to be angry, be angry with yourselves for getting duped by USSF, not the guy who tried to warn you.

FYI, you might not want to get snarky with your ACL commentary because, if you’ve been at this site long enough, you should know how that can go sideways pretty fast.
 
I really hope that with this change people can quickly move away from bitterness and pettiness (e.g. lawsuits, freezing other clubs out) and move forward to a model that best serves the US youth soccer landscape as a whole. Wishful thinking perhaps and planning for future turbulence but still hoping...
 
EOTL said:
Huh? I’ve never said anything about a power struggle or not caring about the kids. I’ve been pretty clear at all times that ECNL has always been a superior platform and it was only a matter of time until it played out. That’s not a power struggle. It’s a fact. We all know ECNL is cheaper, which is better for the kids. ECNL provides flexibility, including giving kids the choice to play HS if they choose and not forcing them to train four days a week, which is good for kids. ECNL provides more flexible substitution rules and is safer, which is also good for kids. ECNL doesn’t make you miss 10 days of school, including the week before winter finals, which is good for kids. ECNL doesn’t make you pay hundreds to fly to Denver to watch the snow fall, also good for kids.

I have obviously said GDA sucks and explained why. And then I did it over and over again for some of the more dense folk in your little mafia. Then I rubbed it in your faces for about a year after GDA entered the death spiral. And now I’m just gloating.

I will say it’s nice to see ya’ll getting past the first stage of grief (denial) and moving on stage two (anger). But if you’re going to be angry, be angry with yourselves for getting duped by USSF, not the guy who tried to warn you.

FYI, you might not want to get snarky with your ACL commentary because, if you’ve been at this site long enough, you should know how that can go sideways pretty fast.
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Who said I supported DA?

I agree with you that DA sucks. I just don’t see why ECNL is much better, though I agree with you on sub rules. Limited subs is a recipe for playing while hurt.

ACL and concussions are important. That’s not snark. That is frustration coming out. My kid is getting near puberty and headers, therefore it is time to decide whether to drop the sport entirely.

How many ACL tears and repeat concussions in your league last year? How many ACL tears and repeat concussions at your club? Do you even know?

Does ECNL even track the data? If you don’t track the data, how on earth can you hope to keep the kids safe?
 
EOTL said:
In my experience, the parents who’ve been dogmatic in their belief that there’s one right way to make a great soccer player tend to have daughters who are neither great soccer players nor particularly successful at much of anything. Have any of the anti-HS folks here ever had a daughter play and make a meaningful contribution in the PAC-12 or ACC? Or go to med, law or business school? If so, please stand up.
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Damn it EOTL, you are like the second coming of MAP. You started out seeming a bit full of yourself, but damn if you do not make a lot of sense.

I might not narrowly define playing in the PAC-12 or ACC as college soccer success, but your point is spot on.
 
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