Return to Play & Practice

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  • SD under day camp guidance

    Votes: 10 18.9%

  • SD without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • OC under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OC without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • LA under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • LA without day camp guidance

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • OTH under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OTH without day camp guidance

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • ALL No dates have be given

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Tournament or full game play in July or August.

    Votes: 9 17.0%
  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .
Keepermom2 said:
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In your inquiries into the COVID issues, have you come across any actual data or studies indicating that outdoor youth sports are actually resulting in any increased risk of transmission, whether by or among kids or parents? We know that this shutdown has not been good for kids. My kids' teams tonight were so down about things being suspended again. Their parents were down. I am not an unreasonable person. If there is science that shows that these activities are resulting in people getting sick in some disproportionate way, then I can accept that and explain it to my kids. Absent some empirical support showing that outdoor youth sports are actually a problem, then this feels like more incoherent, reactionary nonsense policy to me. So, please, share the data on transmissions through youth sports. Or through kids generally. I am sorry if I missed it in an earlier post. If there is none, then why are we allowing this to be done to our kids? Kids need activity and socialization. Humans need it. We all know that.

When experts are telling us that a vaccine may or may not be available for 12-18 months or ever, life in America is supposed to look like this for how long? And don't say November 4 because I am trying not to be that cynical. So, how long? As a result of a virus that kills less than 1% of the population?
 
Dof3 said:
In your inquiries into the COVID issues, have you come across any actual data or studies indicating that outdoor youth sports are actually resulting in any increased risk of transmission, whether by or among kids or parents? We know that this shutdown has not been good for kids. My kids' teams tonight were so down about things being suspended again. Their parents were down. I am not an unreasonable person. If there is science that shows that these activities are resulting in people getting sick in some disproportionate way, then I can accept that and explain it to my kids. Absent some empirical support showing that outdoor youth sports are actually a problem, then this feels like more incoherent, reactionary nonsense policy to me. So, please, share the data on transmissions through youth sports. Or through kids generally. I am sorry if I missed it in an earlier post. If there is none, then why are we allowing this to be done to our kids? Kids need activity and socialization. Humans need it. We all know that.

When experts are telling us that a vaccine may or may not be available for 12-18 months or ever, life in America is supposed to look like this for how long? And don't say November 4 because I am trying not to be that cynical. So, how long? As a result of a virus that kills less than 1% of the population?
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I have done my own analysis of risk on sports outside which is why I have always believed there was no good reason for soccer to not start as I have stated multiple times. Tonight after finding out the announcement about no youth sports I looked at the CDC guidance. All of the protocols put in place for soccer teams made it a "Low Risk" activity. Soccer teams even put more protocols in place than what the CDC called for to make it low risk. This action has nothing to do with science. What it has to do with is some ding dong reporter that decided to do an investigation for no good reason which made the State realize they did not issue guidance. Each county health approved it so the fact the State health is pulling it so they can issue guidance because they were late to the game is unconscionable given how many kids are impacted by this ludicrous reason.
 
Keepermom2 said:
I have done my own analysis of risk on sports outside which is why I have always believed there was no good reason for soccer to not start as I have stated multiple times. Tonight after finding out the announcement about no youth sports I looked at the CDC guidance. All of the protocols put in place for soccer teams made it a "Low Risk" activity. Soccer teams even put more protocols in place than what the CDC called for to make it low risk. This action has nothing to do with science. What it has to do with is some ding dong reporter that decided to do an investigation for no good reason which made the State realize they did not issue guidance. Each county health approved it so the fact the State health is pulling it so they can issue guidance because they were late to the game is unconscionable given how many kids are impacted by this ludicrous reason.
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Ding dong reporter?
 
Dof3 said:
In your inquiries into the COVID issues, have you come across any actual data or studies indicating that outdoor youth sports are actually resulting in any increased risk of transmission, whether by or among kids or parents? We know that this shutdown has not been good for kids. My kids' teams tonight were so down about things being suspended again. Their parents were down. I am not an unreasonable person. If there is science that shows that these activities are resulting in people getting sick in some disproportionate way, then I can accept that and explain it to my kids. Absent some empirical support showing that outdoor youth sports are actually a problem, then this feels like more incoherent, reactionary nonsense policy to me. So, please, share the data on transmissions through youth sports. Or through kids generally. I am sorry if I missed it in an earlier post. If there is none, then why are we allowing this to be done to our kids? Kids need activity and socialization. Humans need it. We all know that.

When experts are telling us that a vaccine may or may not be available for 12-18 months or ever, life in America is supposed to look like this for how long? And don't say November 4 because I am trying not to be that cynical. So, how long? As a result of a virus that kills less than 1% of the population?
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Target dates been November 3rd from the start.

Since protests are still allowed why can't clubs start the Let Kids Play Movement? You can protest on public land which opens up the parks. Teams can still continue phase 1 of calsouths requirements of social distancing and the kids can all bring 1 sign to practice. Your basicly kicking the ball around to demonstrate cause. It seems just as logical like opening as a camp. plus the media's already told us the virus magically has no tracers to these gatherings.
 
Today will be interesting as just about every new day is full of surprises. I will say this. I have many moderate friends who tend to vote for Dems and that is why OC kind of turn blue. These middle of the road left leaning folks with lots of money are now very pissed. Just watch folks. Money talks!!! Oh, another sad business story. I keep in touch with old clients I used to help. One guy owned a successful AC biz in the IE. It's him and three of his techs. This is the time of year to make money, when it's hot!!! PPP he got in April is all dried up. One of his techs got the corona and the other techs are now super afraid and one just quit and got a raise and the other two told boss man they will let him know this morning if they want to risk their lives helping people have cool air. His schedule is booked for the week and I bet he has to call everyone with the bad news. He's done imo, I can hear it in his voice. Worked his ass off to save and start his own AC biz a few years ago. I believe he will shut her down and move. It was already next to impossible to run a biz in Cali but now it's impossible, for reals!!! So handyman guy or plumber dude has to go into someone's house where the disease lives and risk their lives and the owner carries all the liability? Ya, no thanks!!! This is a complete disaster and folks will be held accountable!!!
BTW, this is not on t. t has other issues and mistakes but Cali's decisions are all on the leadership of this state and county. Leaders lead and followers follow.
 
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espola said:
Ding dong reporter?
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Some reporter up in Sacramento did some digging over the 4th, put the state health authorities on the spot when they had been turning a blind eye with a wink and a nod on sports practices, it got caught up in the politics of what was going on and it caused them to issue “clarifying instructions” shutting down everything. I noted it back last weekend and someone here was able to find the article and posted it. In other circumstances they would have clarified things but then the rona roared and the schools debate flared up....
 
Ellejustus said:
Today will be interesting as just about every new day is full of surprises. I will say this. I have many moderate friends who tend to vote for Dems and that is why OC kind of turn blue. These middle of the road left leaning folks with lots of money are now very pissed. Just watch folks. Money talks!!! Oh, another sad business story. I keep in touch with old clients I used to help. One guy owned a successful AC biz in the IE. It's him and three of his techs. This is the time of year to make money, when it's hot!!! PPP he got in April is all dried up. One of his techs got the corona and the other techs are now super afraid and one just quit and got a raise and the other two told boss man they will let him know this morning if they want to risk their lives helping people have cool air. His schedule is booked for the week and I bet he has to call everyone with the bad news. He's done imo, I can hear it in his voice. Worked his ass off to save and start his own AC biz a few years ago. I believe he will shut her down and move. It was already next to impossible to run a biz in Cali but now it's impossible, for reals!!! So handyman guy or plumber dude has to go into someone's house where the disease lives and risk their lives and the owner carries all the liability? Ya, no thanks!!! This is a complete disaster and folks will be held accountable!!!
BTW, this is not on t. t has other issues and mistakes but Cali's decisions are all on the leadership of this state and county. Leaders lead and followers follow.
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I gotta say I’m noticing this in the vc too. Lots of left leaning people who hate the t and look down on his supporters but who are livid at newsom and the blues particularly for doing all this while letting the protests go wild. Lots of people who I never thought would own a gun getting them too. Even some who lectured me when I took my own kids up to the alisal and they learned how to just do air rifles.

But the same thing is going on in red states too. Lots of rs upset at t and their leaders too. The panic v deniers gulf is wide and doesn’t necessarily align with party (though it does a surprising amount).
 
Grace T. said:
Some reporter up in Sacramento did some digging over the 4th, put the state health authorities on the spot when they had been turning a blind eye with a wink and a nod on sports practices, it got caught up in the politics of what was going on and it caused them to issue “clarifying instructions” shutting down everything. I noted it back last weekend and someone here was able to find the article and posted it. In other circumstances they would have clarified things but then the rona roared and the schools debate flared up....
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Yah Gavi doesn’t really look like the athlete type so it’s probably pretty easy for him to flex his political muscles to keep kids from any sense of normalcy in their life. But he will pander to the BLM movement and allow anyone supporting it to hold mass demonstrations. They are all of voting age or will be come election time.
 
Grace T. said:
I gotta say I’m noticing this in the vc too. Lots of left leaning people who hate the t and look down on his supporters but who are livid at newsom and the blues particularly for doing all this while letting the protests go wild. Lots of people who I never thought would own a gun getting them too. Even some who lectured me when I took my own kids up to the alisal and they learned how to just do air rifles.

But the same thing is going on in red states too. Lots of rs upset at t and their leaders too. The panic v deniers gulf is wide and doesn’t necessarily align with party (though it does a surprising amount).
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Ideal times for a 3rd party to rise up.....to bad it will never happen.
 
Keepermom2 said:
This is what started the whole thing. I really don't understand why she was investigating this....
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Because a parent/coach from an opposing club called in to report that another club was practicing indoors and took a picture of players congregated outside the front entrance. That club in fact was not actually violating any rules and was operating within the guidance they’d received from the county, but the local news did a story that including running the picture and interviewing the person that called the media.
 
Eagle33 said:
Karen won!
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Snitch hotline: 411, whats your gossip

Karen: I'm walking with my mask on over at Great Park. I see kids playing and and and their not wearing a mask and I actually saw one of them 4 ft away and not doing 6 feet. I need help now!!!

Snitch hotline: Thank you so much. We will be there in 3 minutes. Thank you for calling

Karen: Oh good, we can;t have this virus spread to my parents.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Ideal times for a 3rd party to rise up.....to bad it will never happen.
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t seems like a 3rd party to me. He was a Dem money wise and then he switched to the R side because he saw all the candidates and took a chance and kicked their asses. Joe will do whatever he is told to do. t does not do that and that is why I see him as a true 3rd party candidate. A true disrupter and chief and let me say this, he is hated by both Dems and Repubs. DC hates him too.....We all can see how the career politician does not like t at all.
 
Soccerfan2 said:
Because a parent/coach from an opposing club called in to report that another club was practicing indoors and took a picture of players congregated outside the front entrance. That club in fact was not actually violating any rules and was operating within the guidance they’d received from the county, but the local news did a story that including running the picture and interviewing the person that called the media.
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Yes, exactly this. This happened in my area and what they didn't show was that each girl was more than 6 ft apart and they had large, double doors rolled up. Plus they were not the only club doing it, it was 100% personal and political.
 
@Grace T and only for Grace T. I wrote this over in the off topic section in response to Messy thinking t is a spy for Russia. Disregard that part. Can you help me if it's true that as a parent in Cali for 2020-2021 school year I can't get money to home school or Charter school? Thanks

So Vlad wants us to have freedom of choice in what schools our kids can go too and what is being taught to them? Vlad wants all of our schools open this fall and make sure sports are being played? Check this out. I called my other pal who teaches special needs in the IE. His wife has home schooled all three of their children from birth. Yes, they're Christian based curriculum and all that but that is their choice. They get $2800 a kid to teach them each year. They use that money for books, dance and many things they deem helpful in kiddos education. Field trips with mom and all that. The dad saw all the brainwashing early on in his career and wanted a balance education with a Christian theme and not just the big bang or how white people are the devil and this country is evil and basically since your a mix of white and asian kid, your evil too because your papa is white and probably married your mother because he is a racist and wants full control of his asian wife. Their oldest dd just graduated and got a full ride in dance at Biloa btw. Back to the reason why I called him the other day. If online is all we get for my dd Jr year, I wanted that $2800 and we will do the teaching ourselves. I asked him how I can get that dough and he said, "you cant." I asked, why? He said Governor added a little something something three weeks ago in the rule book that keeps all the money in each district now from the previous year. Meaning, I can home school or even go charter, but no money follows me. Nothing like adding to the rules mid season before election. I don;t like it one bit. Anyone else find this odd?
 
Glitterhater said:
Yes, exactly this. This happened in my area and what they didn't show was that each girl was more than 6 ft apart and they had large, double doors rolled up. Plus they were not the only club doing it, it was 100% personal and political.
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Youth sports under the camp guidance was a loophole that never real existed in the first place, it's was just convenient to assume it was workable. Obviously it wasn't vented by the state so they have been clarifying that with the cities or people that have been inquiring.

Ask your Club or Cal South why they don't do diligence before suggestion proceeding. Flase start or whatever the case is not a good idea to play with kids emotions.

Youth sports will return but maybe this time people wont jump the gun and be a little bit more cautious about the way they go about things. Insurance generally doesn't cover anybody for activities that are not legal or currently permitted, all the waivers don't change that so proceed at your own risk.

Overall I'm sad for the kids because they deserve to be able participation in outdoor sports and all the hoops everyone has to or will have to jump through seem unfair so I'm urging my local heath people and state gov reps to get the youth sports guidance done so we can have a real return to play.

In the meantime parks and beaches are open so kids can still play & practice. My older player has been training ever other day just about, takes the portable goals and cones with and they have fun.
 
lafalafa said:
Youth sports under the camp guidance was a loophole that never real existed in the first place, it's was just convenient to assume it was workable. Obviously it wasn't vented by the state so they have been clarifying that with the cities or people that have been inquiring.

Ask your Club or Cal South why they don't do diligence before suggestions proceeding. Flase start or whatever the case is not a good idea to play with kids emotions.

Youth sports will return but maybe this time people wont jump the gun and be a little bit more cautious about the way they go about things. Insurance generally doesn't cover anybody for activities that are not legal or currently permitted, all the waivers don't change that so proceed at your own risk.

Overall I'm sad for the kids because they deserve to be able participation in outdoor sports and all the hoops everyone has to or will have to jump through seem unfair so I'm urging my local heath people and state gov reps to get the youth sports guidance done so we can have a real return to play.

In the meantime parks and beaches are open so kids can still play & practice. My older player has been training ever other day just about, takes the portable goals and cones with and they have fun.
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The old system of pay to play is over and will never return and that is very good. This needed some cleaning and it's getting cleaned up as we speak. Why dont one of the spies go and watch the kids play at the beach. This is a joke!!!
 
This is not going to stop parents from taking kids to do private lessons, or just go to the park and kick the ball. If people can go to gyms and places like Walmart or Home Depot, There’s no reason why we can’t get our kids to do some practice drills with a small group of friends.
 
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