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  • SD under day camp guidance

    Votes: 10 18.9%

  • SD without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • OC under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OC without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • LA under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • LA without day camp guidance

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • OTH under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OTH without day camp guidance

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • ALL No dates have be given

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Tournament or full game play in July or August.

    Votes: 9 17.0%
  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .
Copa9 said:
Let's isolate every community. Ladera Ranch started with seven cases, now they are over fifty. Isolate now and stop the spread! Isolate RSM, Mission Viejo, Lake Forest, Irvine, San Juan Capistrano, Newport Beach, Garden Grove, Costa Mesa, Hungtington Beach. , Tustin, Orange, Oceanside, Santa Ana, Anaheim, oh wait, that's where Disneyland is, people would protest and freak over that! After all, we now have over 20,000 cases with over a 1,000 new cases every day. Hey and San Diego isn't far beyond at 18,000 cases.

You mean "Home of the Stupid"?
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You made your own point.

...and @Darbfig gave you a facial.
 
Desert Hound said:
Despite substantially more cases since we opened up May 11 or so, deaths are only up marginally. Pre open up our highest deaths per day was 28. We have hit 38 as the max now.

Cal is seeing the same thing. Large spikes in positive cases and yet deaths remain fairly flat.

What is interesting is how the reporting is happening now.

Early on the press was counting deaths every day in the country. Deaths have fallen dramatically. So now the talk about #s who have tested positive with very little discussion regarding deaths and the fact that week by week there are fewer and fewer deaths being recorded.
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How many times do deaths have to double before you stop calling it flat?

Deaths have doubled in AZ since reopening. When you say “deaths have fallen dramatically”, you only get that result by including
Desert Hound said:
What will happen is this. I have friends in the medical field here in AZ. In March/April when AZ had nothing going on, they went to NY to help out.

If today certain states need help, I suspect strongly that medical professionals from states past the wave come out here to help. It is what we do.



Italy and Spain have socialist health care systems and have far fewer resources available vs the US. Less beds, less equipment, less trained people, etc. So in this case an apples and oranges comparison.

Agreed. Further I dislike the idea that politicians dictate which businesses get to live and which die. Rather arbitrary.
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Apparently, your business involves a room full of people breathing the same air but not wearing masks.

There is no way for you to run that business without people dying as a result.

In other words, you are asking to be allowed to kill people to make a buck.

And complaining when the rest of us say no.
 
Ellejustus said:
LA vs OC now? Please keeper mom, just please........ I know your very scared and are so many like you are scared of death. Some are scared to get the virus and some are scared that t will win and some are scared of both and because their scared out of their minds, they have blocked the kids from living and others from living, all because their scared and full of fear. The LA Health group 100% said go protest because it's essential or something like that. Now you have more cases. Here's where I'm at. Either we all go on lock down and lose our jobs together or those who can and want to, go outside and live life. This sucks!!!!
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Okay
 
Desert Hound said:
Italy and Spain have socialist health care systems and have far fewer resources available vs the US. Less beds, less equipment, less trained people, etc. So in this case an apples and oranges comparison.
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They both have higher life expectancies than the US. Every developed country has "socialist" health care systems except the US.

Their problem was the surge and not being able to cope with it.
 
I am afraid that people won’t think I am brave. I am going to drop my 6-year old off at soccer practice tonight to prove it.
 
Oh, wait. COVID-19 is no big deal so there is nothing to worry about. So maybe dropping him off doesn’t make me brave.
 
MicPaPa said:
Sure, if you pretend she didn't say this:

"New York was able to deal with capacity issues because they completely shut down and New Yorkers were scared."

We have an obvious difference of opinion on what Americans do. In fact, based on most posts I've seen of yours, we definitely have a difference of opinion on the exceptionalism of America.
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Is that supposed to be responsive to my note about Americans.
Make sacrifices to beat the enemy.
Band together in that job.
That’s American exceptionalism.
Selfishness isn’t.
Listen and learn, son.
 
dad4 said:
How many times do deaths have to double before you stop calling it flat?

Deaths have doubled in AZ since reopening. When you say “deaths have fallen dramatically”, you only get that result by including

Apparently, your business involves a room full of people breathing the same air but not wearing masks.

There is no way for you to run that business without people dying as a result.

In other words, you are asking to be allowed to kill people to make a buck.

And complaining when the rest of us say no.
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Dude...or should I say dad4. You are always the Prophet of Doom. 1 to 2 months ago you assured us all that GA and FL were sending their residents across the Styx. That petered out and you don't mention them much anymore.

Now you are on to AZ and if I recall correctly TX.

It is always lag time, etc. you say. Doom is upon us. And yet in the US deaths drop week by week.

AZ is not going to turn into another NY/NY/IL. States that didn't get hit at the same time as back east will certainly experience more deaths now vs back in March/April? You say our deaths have doubled. OK...we went from 1k to less than 2k right now. That is since this whole thing started. It certainly does not seem we are going to see anything like what we saw early on back east. And I refer to AZ and the rest of the other states.

The virus ripped through those eastern states in really just a matter of weeks and since then has gone away.

AZ has been open since May 11 or so. You are always talking lag time between positives and deaths. Our positives have risen steadily and fast since the reopening almost 2 months ago and yet deaths have risen on a per day basis minimally. Again pre opening up we were mid 20 to high 20 deaths per day. After almost 2 months of being open that number is mid 30 to high 30s.
 
timbuck said:
Time for all of these "Players" to start "Scheduling pick up games" with their teammates again. Remember to not wear anything with your club logo on it.
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The spies will find you. I'm dead serious. This is serious stuff going on. I would just lay low and wait this out until Nov 3rd. We will remember!!!
 
whatithink said:
Interesting article, but its not just about beds, i.e. from the article

"While hospitals were able to add beds more quickly than experts realized they could, some other resources were harder to come by. Masks, gowns and other personal protective equipment were tough to get. So were ventilators. Anesthesia agents and dialysis medications were in short supply. And every additional bed meant the need for more doctors, nurses and respiratory therapists."

Interesting quote at the end also

Lynam of Northwell said he's worried about what lies ahead. “You look back on the 1918 Spanish flu and the majority of victims from that died in the second wave. … We don't know what's coming on the second wave. There may be some folks who say you're paranoid, but you've got to be prepared for the worst."
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Just adding an article that came out 2 hours ago.

voiceofoc.org

As OC Coronavirus Hospitalizations Soar, Questions Over Ability to Handle Spike Surface

As Orange County’s Coronavirus cases continue to spike, worries over a lack of hospital staffing and resources to deal with rising hospitalizations are surfacing.
voiceofoc.org voiceofoc.org
 
The camp workaround was just a hopefully ploy that even Cal south tried to exploit as one of the phases, amazing they jumped on that and announced return to play without clearance from the state. Now you know how much they really care about players, fees, CRL $$, scheduling without fields, and took out a huge PPP loan that all of us taxpayers will foot the bill for while there double and triple dipping, what a racket.

In accordance with California Department of Public Health direction, youth sports practices are postponed. https://bit.ly/YouthSportsPostponed

OC Health Care Agency | Orange County California - Health Care Agency

www.ochealthinfo.com www.ochealthinfo.com
 
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