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  • SD under day camp guidance

    Votes: 10 18.9%

  • SD without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • OC under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OC without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • LA under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • LA without day camp guidance

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • OTH under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OTH without day camp guidance

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • ALL No dates have be given

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Tournament or full game play in July or August.

    Votes: 9 17.0%
  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .
MacDre said:
The hospitals in NorCal were laying folks off. My wife volunteered to take a month of vacation so others more in need wouldn’t be laid off.
You see, the good thing about growing up poor, is that I don’t trip on material things. As long as I have my health and can get whatever I lose back. Man makes money, money doesn’t make the man.

Are you to good to eat beans, rice, & cornbread until things get better. Or do you want some cheese to go with that WINE?
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That's funny... a black man accusing someone else of "whining".
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
This is not going to stop parents from taking kids to do private lessons, or just go to the park and kick the ball. If people can go to gyms and places like Walmart or Home Depot, There’s no reason why we can’t get our kids to do some practice drills with a small group of friends.
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Lawsuits and more lawsuits. This has to blow up and all the healthy clubs and all these real good coaches like Coach Doug and Coach Buck need to create a new way to get the girls to scrimmage. I'm all in and my dd just wants to play soccer games with friends. We need to start a grass roots. Maybe have Varsity level and JV. Mix the girls all up and go have fun. We ((the girls)) can go play soccer you guys.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
This is not going to stop parents from taking kids to do private lessons, or just go to the park and kick the ball. If people can go to gyms and places like Walmart or Home Depot, There’s no reason why we can’t get our kids to do some practice drills with a small group of friends.
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Nor it should'nt there are several different ways to keep participating, practicing, having fun. My kids played pick up soccer for years before even having a coach or knowing about organized sports.

Pick-up soccer on private property or private facilities should still be a option I would think and there's parks and beaches also.
 
Ellejustus said:
@Grace T and only for Grace T. I wrote this over in the off topic section in response to Messy thinking t is a spy for Russia. Disregard that part. Can you help me if it's true that as a parent in Cali for 2020-2021 school year I can't get money to home school or
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Sorry me and my ilk do private school. The way things are headed and since newsom seems especially wanting to give the finger to t I think we may have paid for some very expensive online schooling. At least they’ll have in person instruction all 5 days and can unwind it fast after the election (yes Im there already...I’ve become that cynical but I also think things will break in SoCal now by mid to late september). Still not worth what we paid for. Parents were already up in arms about things at our school. The hellstorm that’s about to land on the school admin is not pretty.

It wouldn’t surprise me though. The budget was crafted at the last minute to prevent a train wreck in the local school districts. Lots of pain is deferred until 2021-2022 and the assumption is a Biden government will give them a massive bailout. So it wouldn’t shock me if they took out new home school money which would torch the budget if everyone in well off districts did it (looking at you oc).

Sons school soccer camp cancelled today. At least he won’t have to have a Covid test.
 
Dof3 said:
In your inquiries into the COVID issues, have you come across any actual data or studies indicating that outdoor youth sports are actually resulting in any increased risk of transmission, whether by or among kids or parents? We know that this shutdown has not been good for kids. My kids' teams tonight were so down about things being suspended again. Their parents were down. I am not an unreasonable person. If there is science that shows that these activities are resulting in people getting sick in some disproportionate way, then I can accept that and explain it to my kids. Absent some empirical support showing that outdoor youth sports are actually a problem, then this feels like more incoherent, reactionary nonsense policy to me. So, please, share the data on transmissions through youth sports. Or through kids generally. I am sorry if I missed it in an earlier post. If there is none, then why are we allowing this to be done to our kids? Kids need activity and socialization. Humans need it. We all know that.

When experts are telling us that a vaccine may or may not be available for 12-18 months or ever, life in America is supposed to look like this for how long? And don't say November 4 because I am trying not to be that cynical. So, how long? As a result of a virus that kills less than 1% of the population?
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The closest I’ve found is a cluster on a high school baseball team.

www.koin.com

8 COVID-19 cases connected to Newberg baseball team

At least 8 people from a Newberg baseball team tested positive for COVID-19 after playing in a tournament in Roseburg.
www.koin.com www.koin.com

No word on whether the team also got together for a party or movie night. (we don’t know if it was outdoor or indoor transmission)

I haven’t been able to find reports of an elementary age cluster of any kind- indoor or outdoor.
 
Keepermom2 said:
I have done my own analysis of risk on sports outside which is why I have always believed there was no good reason for soccer to not start as I have stated multiple times. Tonight after finding out the announcement about no youth sports I looked at the CDC guidance. All of the protocols put in place for soccer teams made it a "Low Risk" activity. Soccer teams even put more protocols in place than what the CDC called for to make it low risk. This action has nothing to do with science. What it has to do with is some ding dong reporter that decided to do an investigation for no good reason which made the State realize they did not issue guidance. Each county health approved it so the fact the State health is pulling it so they can issue guidance because they were late to the game is unconscionable given how many kids are impacted by this ludicrous reason.
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Just to add something new to the mix, saw on the news this morning that covid may cause brain damage. Patients who have recovered are experiencing neurological problems. Hope it is temporary! This would make sense because of the ACE2 receptors in the the brain along with other organs.
 
dad4 said:
Also a 10 year old case from a basketball tournament in Missouri.

www.wral.com

Girl tests positive for COVID-19 after playing in basketball tournament :: WRAL.com

A mom in Missouri says her daughter tested positive for COVID-19 after playing in a basketball tournament.
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There's also been some cases of transmission in camps (I think Arkansas and Georgia). Yes, those were sleep away camps so kids basically living together. But it's also clear there isn't 0 transmission. Even if we get to reopen the schools (which is LA, OC and Ventura Counties isn't looking too good right now), they are going to get constantly reclosed because some kid catches it from his parents and everyone has to quarantine. We're really at the point where either we just say to hell with it and accept the risks, or we don't (and California seems to be saying we don't). The experts don't want to say that, so they've handed down a bunch of rules which are unworkable and no one can meet, which is why everyone is spinning their wheels, and why t jumped into the fray and the CDC responded by just confusing things even more.

The plans to reopen the Thatcher and Cate boarding schools are interesting. No day schoolers will be allowed. You have to board. Students will be hard shut and isolated on campus until thanksgiving as will a lot of the teachers and admin who are moving on campus. They don't say, though, what happens to the service workers (kitchen workers, cleaning staff, security, horse groomers). At a very minimum they'll be vets coming in and out of the Thatcher to care for the horses so not sure how tight that bubble can be, or if the state will sign off on their plans.
 
Grace T. said:
Even if we get to reopen the schools (which is LA, OC and Ventura Counties isn't looking too good right now), they are going to get constantly reclosed because some kid catches it from his parents and everyone has to quarantine. We're really at the point where either we just say to hell with it and accept the risks, or we don't (and California seems to be saying we don't). The experts don't want to say that, so they've handed down a bunch of rules which are unworkable and no one can meet, which is why everyone is spinning their wheels, and why t jumped into the fray and the CDC responded by just confusing things even more.
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It isn't just schools. We see it with biz. Some employee gets it and the place shuts down for some deep cleaning.

You cannot live like this.

The views from Cate are nice. My DD has done some One Soccer Camps there in the past.
 
Copa9 said:
Just to add something new to the mix, saw on the news this morning that covid may cause brain damage. Patients who have recovered are experiencing neurological problems. Hope it is temporary! This would make sense because of the ACE2 receptors in the the brain along with other organs.
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Interesting....I wonder if they will find out the neurological problems are related.
 
Grace T. said:
There's also been some cases of transmission in camps (I think Arkansas and Georgia). Yes, those were sleep away camps so kids basically living together. But it's also clear there isn't 0 transmission. Even if we get to reopen the schools (which is LA, OC and Ventura Counties isn't looking too good right now), they are going to get constantly reclosed because some kid catches it from his parents and everyone has to quarantine. We're really at the point where either we just say to hell with it and accept the risks, or we don't (and California seems to be saying we don't). The experts don't want to say that, so they've handed down a bunch of rules which are unworkable and no one can meet, which is why everyone is spinning their wheels, and why t jumped into the fray and the CDC responded by just confusing things even more.

The plans to reopen the Thatcher and Cate boarding schools are interesting. No day schoolers will be allowed. You have to board. Students will be hard shut and isolated on campus until thanksgiving as will a lot of the teachers and admin who are moving on campus. They don't say, though, what happens to the service workers (kitchen workers, cleaning staff, security, horse groomers). At a very minimum they'll be vets coming in and out of the Thatcher to care for the horses so not sure how tight that bubble can be, or if the state will sign off on their plans.
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age of kids at the sleepaway camp clusters? The ones I have seen are mostly HS.
 
dad4 said:
age of kids at the sleepaway camp clusters? The ones I have seen are mostly HS.
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Can't find the article now but IIRC the median was middle schoolers. Not too many younger elementary school kids do sleep away nor older teens (unless they are counselors)
 
Copa9 said:
Just to add something new to the mix, saw on the news this morning that covid may cause brain damage. Patients who have recovered are experiencing neurological problems. Hope it is temporary! This would make sense because of the ACE2 receptors in the the brain along with other organs.
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I hope you sleep well at night. I will let me friend know that he might have brain damage now when he let's me know he's positive. Thanks for the information. BTW, if that is true, then we all need to go inside now. Brain damage for the first repsonders and risk takers and everyone else can stay home so they live? This is so whacko bird BS!!!! I also heard some woman who got the virus when she was prego had a Bat Baby. Half bat and human.
 
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Grace T. said:
Can't find the article now but IIRC the median was middle schoolers. Not too many younger elementary school kids do sleep away nor older teens (unless they are counselors)
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church sleep-away camp is often HS. I’ll look for articles.
 
Copa9 said:
Just to add something new to the mix, saw on the news this morning that covid may cause brain damage. Patients who have recovered are experiencing neurological problems. Hope it is temporary! This would make sense because of the ACE2 receptors in the the brain along with other organs.
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Is that mean that you already had covid?
 
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