Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process

It's ridiculous that girls are committing before their Junior year. 14, 15, and 16 year old girls should not be put in the position to make these decisions so early. Let them grow up some more before they need to decide where they want to spend 4 years of their life and what major they want to study. Plus there is no guarantee that coaches recruiting them will even be still at the school by the time the finally get there. In our process we had several coaches tell us that they wish they still had money or spots upon for their 2019 class but they way the system works right now they have to be focused on the 2020 and 2021 classes already.

With the new rules banning in person recruiting discussions really anywhere before the start of the Junior year all that is left the ability to talk to a coach via a phone call initiated by the player. Now girls will be pressured to verbally commit early without ever having an in person recruiting discussion because the top schools will not want to wait unit the start of the Junior year. I personally believe they should just come out and ban any sort of recruiting discussions prior to the start of the Junior year in any format.

Also don't expect that schools will pay for your recruiting trip. It's unlikely since you only get one paid trip to a school (and only 5 trips to D1's). Most schools will want to use this trip during your kids senior year to bring all of the commits in together at once.
I agree that offers and commits should not be allowed until Junior year but i did like the flexibility of being able to visit the campus, being shown the facilities and getting to meet the staff on campus at my expense. That way you can spread the cost over several years and you don't have to scramble their junior year to see the various campus's. If you did allow the unofficial visit's from freshman year on but did not allow offers and commits it would be better for everyone. Colleges wouldn't feel like they have to take chances on 8th, 9th and 10th graders and student/players wouldn't have to make a decision before they are prepared or mature enough to make that decision. It seems simple to me but that's just my opinion, i'm sure others would disagree.

I also haven't heard of any woman's soccer program paying for an official "recruiting" visit except in the case that you mentioned, bringing all of the commits together during their senior year. If anyone has had a different experience I would like to hear about it.
 
I agree that offers and commits should not be allowed until Junior year but i did like the flexibility of being able to visit the campus, being shown the facilities and getting to meet the staff on campus at my expense. That way you can spread the cost over several years and you don't have to scramble their junior year to see the various campus's. If you did allow the unofficial visit's from freshman year on but did not allow offers and commits it would be better for everyone. Colleges wouldn't feel like they have to take chances on 8th, 9th and 10th graders and student/players wouldn't have to make a decision before they are prepared or mature enough to make that decision. It seems simple to me but that's just my opinion, i'm sure others would disagree.

I also haven't heard of any woman's soccer program paying for an official "recruiting" visit except in the case that you mentioned, bringing all of the commits together during their senior year. If anyone has had a different experience I would like to hear about it.

You can still visit before the start of their Junior year. Just schedule your visit for the schools open visitor day and you will be shown around. The coach just can't be involved. You won't get to see inside the locker room or get a presentation for the coach but you can see enough to know whether you kid would be interested.

We did have one Power 5 D1 school offer to pay the cost of a recruiting trip. This was not a school my dd had written. It was very late in their recruiting cycle and they had very little money left. This school is super expensive. I think they offered to pay for the trip since they had little else left to offer. We declined to visit.
 
I don’t think anyone wants to decide as a freshman or early sophomore, but I suspect bad things will happen if neither the college coach nor the kid can obtain any firsthand knowledge about each other until start of junior year. First, I don't like the extremely compressed timeframe to meet coaches, go on visits, and commit under pressure before roster spots fill up that the NCAA seems to be pushing. Before the rule changes, families at least had time to visit as many mutually-interested coaches and their programs as they wanted for at least a year without running a risk that roster spots would be gone in a span of days or weeks. That's a much more leisurely pace compared to the NCAA's current direction. It also means club coaches will turn even more into de facto agents, and families will need to rely even more on them to identify who is a good fit, whose personalities mesh, and also broker visits the first couple weeks of junior year in anticipation of the inevitable free-for-all starting the first day of recruiting, when kids should instead be focusing on school and the SAT and college coaches on soccer season. There’s already a lot of reliance on club coaches, but at least we were able to meet coaches and form our own opinions. And the new rules haven't seemed to deter kids from committing early, only they're presumably committing now without having ever met the coach or visited the program. How is that a good thing?

I get that freshman year is early to decide where to go to college but, in reality, does it really matter most of the time? The schools that fill all their roster spots with freshman and sophomores are not exactly the types of institutions that are ever a bad idea. Sure, the coach might leave, but that’s surprisingly unusual in girls soccer and, well, s**t happens. Personally, I'd rather run that risk than the risk under the new rules that she can't commit until junior year but blows out her knee as a sophomore and misses out on guaranteed admission to a elite academic school and the money they offered her as a freshman.

There's no perfect solution for everyone, but I think limiting a family’s access to information that is critical to making an important life decision for their kid is a really bad idea, and even worse when you replace it with the judgment of a youth soccer coach. It’s better to face the reality that everyone has a pretty good idea during freshman year of HS what kind of player a girl will be in college, and to have rules that work based on reality. In the elite girls soccer player demographic, kids rarely jump the rails and fail to qualify academically, commit a felony, give up soccer, get fat unexpectedly or develop substance abuse problems. Maybe they don't turn out as great as expected, but rarely do HS freshman commits end up being so bad in college that they aren't helpful. But even if half seriously underperform, a college still has 15 kids on the roster playing as expected or better, and that’s plenty. Which means colleges will always at least scout 8-10th graders whether we think it’s too early or not, and they’ll be ready to drop all their offers the first day of junior year or use, which will inevitably turn into the kind of free-for-all that isn’t good for anyone.
 
I don’t think anyone wants to decide as a freshman or early sophomore, but I suspect bad things will happen if neither the college coach nor the kid can obtain any firsthand knowledge about each other until start of junior year. First, I don't like the extremely compressed timeframe to meet coaches, go on visits, and commit under pressure before roster spots fill up that the NCAA seems to be pushing. Before the rule changes, families at least had time to visit as many mutually-interested coaches and their programs as they wanted for at least a year without running a risk that roster spots would be gone in a span of days or weeks. That's a much more leisurely pace compared to the NCAA's current direction. It also means club coaches will turn even more into de facto agents, and families will need to rely even more on them to identify who is a good fit, whose personalities mesh, and also broker visits the first couple weeks of junior year in anticipation of the inevitable free-for-all starting the first day of recruiting, when kids should instead be focusing on school and the SAT and college coaches on soccer season. There’s already a lot of reliance on club coaches, but at least we were able to meet coaches and form our own opinions. And the new rules haven't seemed to deter kids from committing early, only they're presumably committing now without having ever met the coach or visited the program. How is that a good thing?

I get that freshman year is early to decide where to go to college but, in reality, does it really matter most of the time? The schools that fill all their roster spots with freshman and sophomores are not exactly the types of institutions that are ever a bad idea. Sure, the coach might leave, but that’s surprisingly unusual in girls soccer and, well, s**t happens. Personally, I'd rather run that risk than the risk under the new rules that she can't commit until junior year but blows out her knee as a sophomore and misses out on guaranteed admission to a elite academic school and the money they offered her as a freshman.

There's no perfect solution for everyone, but I think limiting a family’s access to information that is critical to making an important life decision for their kid is a really bad idea, and even worse when you replace it with the judgment of a youth soccer coach. It’s better to face the reality that everyone has a pretty good idea during freshman year of HS what kind of player a girl will be in college, and to have rules that work based on reality. In the elite girls soccer player demographic, kids rarely jump the rails and fail to qualify academically, commit a felony, give up soccer, get fat unexpectedly or develop substance abuse problems. Maybe they don't turn out as great as expected, but rarely do HS freshman commits end up being so bad in college that they aren't helpful. But even if half seriously underperform, a college still has 15 kids on the roster playing as expected or better, and that’s plenty. Which means colleges will always at least scout 8-10th graders whether we think it’s too early or not, and they’ll be ready to drop all their offers the first day of junior year or use, which will inevitably turn into the kind of free-for-all that isn’t good for anyone.

Truth.
 
I don’t think anyone wants to decide as a freshman or early sophomore, but I suspect bad things will happen if neither the college coach nor the kid can obtain any firsthand knowledge about each other until start of junior year. First, I don't like the extremely compressed timeframe to meet coaches, go on visits, and commit under pressure before roster spots fill up that the NCAA seems to be pushing. Before the rule changes, families at least had time to visit as many mutually-interested coaches and their programs as they wanted for at least a year without running a risk that roster spots would be gone in a span of days or weeks. That's a much more leisurely pace compared to the NCAA's current direction. It also means club coaches will turn even more into de facto agents, and families will need to rely even more on them to identify who is a good fit, whose personalities mesh, and also broker visits the first couple weeks of junior year in anticipation of the inevitable free-for-all starting the first day of recruiting, when kids should instead be focusing on school and the SAT and college coaches on soccer season. There’s already a lot of reliance on club coaches, but at least we were able to meet coaches and form our own opinions. And the new rules haven't seemed to deter kids from committing early, only they're presumably committing now without having ever met the coach or visited the program. How is that a good thing?

I get that freshman year is early to decide where to go to college but, in reality, does it really matter most of the time? The schools that fill all their roster spots with freshman and sophomores are not exactly the types of institutions that are ever a bad idea. Sure, the coach might leave, but that’s surprisingly unusual in girls soccer and, well, s**t happens. Personally, I'd rather run that risk than the risk under the new rules that she can't commit until junior year but blows out her knee as a sophomore and misses out on guaranteed admission to a elite academic school and the money they offered her as a freshman.

There's no perfect solution for everyone, but I think limiting a family’s access to information that is critical to making an important life decision for their kid is a really bad idea, and even worse when you replace it with the judgment of a youth soccer coach. It’s better to face the reality that everyone has a pretty good idea during freshman year of HS what kind of player a girl will be in college, and to have rules that work based on reality. In the elite girls soccer player demographic, kids rarely jump the rails and fail to qualify academically, commit a felony, give up soccer, get fat unexpectedly or develop substance abuse problems. Maybe they don't turn out as great as expected, but rarely do HS freshman commits end up being so bad in college that they aren't helpful. But even if half seriously underperform, a college still has 15 kids on the roster playing as expected or better, and that’s plenty. Which means colleges will always at least scout 8-10th graders whether we think it’s too early or not, and they’ll be ready to drop all their offers the first day of junior year or use, which will inevitably turn into the kind of free-for-all that isn’t good for anyone.


Most of this years Freshman commits started the process prior to the rule change. So, it’s not as blind as one might thing. But, you are right, I would rather my DD roll the dice earlier on. Like you said anything can happen.
 
Do my baby is away as a college freshman this year.
They are 5 weeks into soccer/ school and said everyone is getting home sick. Even the local girls. They love the team and even their classes.
I never noticed this when my boys left to school
Is this a girl thing? Anyone else noticing homesickness 4-6 weeks in?
Many tell me it takes about 2 months to get through it.
 
Not yet. My eldest is a freshmen (not playing college soccer) and I have not seen her in 4 weeks (Facetime does not count). It's likely harder on me then her.
 
Do my baby is away as a college freshman this year.
They are 5 weeks into soccer/ school and said everyone is getting home sick. Even the local girls. They love the team and even their classes.
I never noticed this when my boys left to school
Is this a girl thing? Anyone else noticing homesickness 4-6 weeks in?
Many tell me it takes about 2 months to get through it.

Dropped my daughter off at Cal Poly SLO 4 days ago, seriously home sick and its only been 3 days of being there without parents. Her twin (Cal State San Marcos) handled it by ghosting us, she just killed us in her mind and was fine ... so there is that solution.
 
Can college coaches respond to emails from Junior prospects at this point, or no?
Yes, emails can be sent from a college coach starting a prospect’s junior year of high school. Prior to that, email communication from the coach is filtered thru the club coach.
 
I figured that I would create a place for parents that have been through the process to share insights and answer questions for parents just starting the process or looking ahead to the start of the process. With so much misinformation out there I thought that having a thread to sort it out might be useful.
Is there an age or year restriction on when a college can talk to a player while they are in High School? New to this. Thanks.
 
Is there an age or year restriction on when a college can talk to a player while they are in High School? New to this. Thanks.

Player and parents can initiate communication at any time. There are restrictions when a coach or school representative can contact a player, but not the other way.
 
Player and parents can initiate communication at any time. There are restrictions when a coach or school representative can contact a player, but not the other way.
Remember, they cannot reply to you, call you back, or talk specifics about your recruiting off their campus until junior year. So a call from your player to them, at a time arranged by your club coach, is really the best way to initiate early contact.

If you do not think your club coach able to arrange this, your player is older than 12, and they want to play in college, change teams to one that can.
 
I also haven't heard of any woman's soccer program paying for an official "recruiting" visit except in the case that you mentioned, bringing all of the commits together during their senior year. If anyone has had a different experience I would like to hear about it.
It isn't common but does happen. Depends on your player and the school and what the situation is. There are many pathways and circumstances.
 
I also haven't heard of any woman's soccer program paying for an official "recruiting" visit except in the case that you mentioned, bringing all of the commits together during their senior year. If anyone has had a different experience I would like to hear about it.

One of my players went on THREE in 2010. All were paid including airfare. She didn't commit until December of her senior year so yes, it does happen.
 
I remember for years seeing parents and players U10-U13 wearing Stanford, North Carolina, UCLA, USC, Virginia, and whoever else was one of the top teams in the country. I always said during those ages if you asked a parent or player where do you plan on going to school? Almost all said a top 10 program. It's no wonder every year when our daughters get to HS age and start the recruiting process parents and players are I'll prepared for the reality of how difficult it is to play women's college socccer, only 9% make it and only 2% make a D1 school. So if your daughter is one of the 9% who play college soccer or the 2% that plays D1 congrats on an incredible accomplishment and if your daughter is one of the 91% that don't make it for whatever reasons injury, burn out, or never got recruited you are in the overwhelming majority. http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
 
I remember for years seeing parents and players U10-U13 wearing Stanford, North Carolina, UCLA, USC, Virginia, and whoever else was one of the top teams in the country. I always said during those ages if you asked a parent or player where do you plan on going to school? Almost all said a top 10 program. It's no wonder every year when our daughters get to HS age and start the recruiting process parents and players are I'll prepared for the reality of how difficult it is to play women's college socccer, only 9% make it and only 2% make a D1 school. So if your daughter is one of the 9% who play college soccer or the 2% that plays D1 congrats on an incredible accomplishment and if your daughter is one of the 91% that don't make it for whatever reasons injury, burn out, or never got recruited you are in the overwhelming majority. http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
I wonder what the percentages/ratios are for getting recruited to play for a Power 5 conference program? Less than 1%?
 
I wonder what the percentages/ratios are for getting recruited to play for a Power 5 conference program? Less than 1%?

Even among the Power 5 conferences, only a few of those teams are actually competing for an NCAA championship. You can determine the numerator for this group without needing a calculator. It is a meaningful denominator that is hard to figure to try to calculate any of these percentages.
 
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