Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process

They are not alone. I'm sure it will be a mad dash for the rest of the month. Agree on your comment about having that very direct conversation with the coaches. Wish there was a much more sensible approach to all of this.
 
I just read this and it looks like contact via telephone, text and off campus contact are all still legal. Looks like everything continues as is except official & unofficial visits. Am I reading that correctly?
 
when do the new regulations go into effect? i read the article, but what constitutes the next school year? August, September, July?
 
Dubs said:
I just read this and it looks like contact via telephone, text and off campus contact are all still legal. Looks like everything continues as is except official & unofficial visits. Am I reading that correctly?
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Yes. I was told that the Sept 1st visit requirement goes live at the end of this month. Changes regarding verbal commitments have been tabled for the time being. Very minor change...players/family can still visit the campus unofficially, but conversations/meetings with soccer staff are prohibited.
 
CaliKlines said:
Yes. I was told that the Sept 1st visit requirement goes live at the end of this month. Changes regarding verbal commitments have been tabled for the time being. Very minor change...players/family can still visit the campus unofficially, but conversations/meetings with soccer staff are prohibited.
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Meeting at the camps or on campus are prohibited, but doesn't everything else still work the same? Seems like nothing much has changed. Players can still reach out to coach via email or calls. Am I missing something?
 
Per a soccer parent text chain I am in:
rule takes effect next Wednesday (april 25th).
Practically it means you can do an unofficial visit to a campus but cannot meet/talk to the coaches. So if you are on vacation and want to check out a campus you can, but can't go see the coaches.
You can call coaches like always and they can offer you/you can commit
You can go to camps anytime but coaches can't specifically talk recruiting to your kid (unless they are a junior)

That's the 411 we got from a parent who was communicating with a college coach about it.

We will see. I think the top kids will still be sought after early in high school and will still commit to lock in that money. I know the intent is to slow the process down but it's not very well thought out. Why allow kids to still call coaches but not allow on campus communication? If the rule specified NO CONTACT at all then that would make sense, or even NO FINANCIAL OFFERS before sept 1, then that makes sense...but there's so much wiggle room here.

The coaches that cheat now (cough cough JS) will still cheat.
Club coaches will now be brokers for kids passing messages such as "USC has a full ride for your DD when she's ready to commit" which sucks.
Maybe it will be magical and slow things down but who knows.
Coaches will need to be ready Sept 1 to contact who they want to bring on campus.
Trying to think through other results of this.

I know kids are rushing to get in visits this next week. And most top schools are done through this year's sophomores and even a lot of freshman so they might have some free time on their hands!
 
shales1002 said:
Meeting at the camps or on campus are prohibited, but doesn't everything else still work the same? Seems like nothing much has changed. Players can still reach out to coach via email or calls. Am I missing something?
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You are correct. Player initiated contact is still permitted. College coaches will still talk with club coaches as well.
 
It's actually a bummer that they eliminated the on campus unofficial. Meeting with the coaches face to face seems an invaluable part of the process. Many of my friends' DD were able to eliminate schools based on that unofficial, and also had schools they wouldn't have considered after getting to know the staff for an extended period of time. I am hopeful that kids wait to decide long enough to get those impressions and have a good sense of who they are committing to.
 
full90 said:
It's actually a bummer that they eliminated the on campus unofficial. Meeting with the coaches face to face seems an invaluable part of the process. Many of my friends' DD were able to eliminate schools based on that unofficial, and also had schools they wouldn't have considered after getting to know the staff for an extended period of time. I am hopeful that kids wait to decide long enough to get those impressions and have a good sense of who they are committing to.
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The group that the new NCAA rule seems to affect the most will be the 03's. Many of the 03's have scrambled to commit in order to secure athletic money that might not be available by their junior year. With the exception of a couple of unicorns, the 04's have not committed, the 02's are finishing their sophomore year and will be ready to commit in Sept. and many of them already have offers.
 
Totally agree. Seems like too much power/responsibility in the club coaches hands. I would like to think most will do the right thing with this power, but inevitably others will use the power in the wrong way. This rule literally makes them an agent.
 
Dubs said:
Totally agree. Seems like too much power/responsibility in the club coaches hands. I would like to think most will do the right thing with this power, but inevitably others will use the power in the wrong way. This rule literally makes them an agent.
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If you can't trust your kid's coach they shouldn't be coaching your kid. My kid's coach was amazing and still shows up to some of her college games even though he coaches boys academy teams now.
 
MAP, What exactly should the coach be doing in this case? Can you speak to specfics about how your kid's coach helped her through the process?
 
Dubs said:
MAP, What exactly should the coach be doing in this case? Can you speak to specfics about how your kid's coach helped her through the process?
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It should be an interaction between you, your player, her club coach and the coaches of the teams that she is interested in and that are interested in her. In my player's case her club coach would act as the mouthpiece for her current college coaches. Letting her know when to call. Giving them feedback on her play when she is unable to get ahold of them due to timing/scheduling. My player's coach was the first to confirm our belief that our player was in the upper pool of players in her graduating class even though she committed to her school over a year before she got her first YNT call up. Our coach even spoke with the current U20 coach when she was the U19 coach at the Players Showcase and had her watch her play which lead to her inclusion in the program. My players coach also had her play her college position even though there were plenty of times where she could have helped him win games by playing another position. I appreciate so much that he put her personal development ahead of any other agenda and he so believed in my player and her potential at 12/13 years old that he pushed her to believe in and pursue her greatness. She heard all these things her whole life from us but to hear it from someone as accomplished as him, and to see him hold her to such a high standard of expectations has only further fueled her drive to excel.

That's what a great coach did for my kid. Good luck to you and your player.
 
Thank you for that. It's great the coach was such an advocate for your daughter. My kid has that to a degree, but not completely what you describe. I don't know how often she is advocating for her, in terms of being proactive. We'll see how it all plays out...
 
GoWest said:
Any insight on Florida State from a recruitment and player perspective? Mark seems genuine.
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I can only say a few things. Look at how many international players they get and how many domestic players (mostly former or current YNT players) transfer after a year or two. One of my daughter's friends who was a former teammate went there as a freshman and transferred after one year. Out of all the other top programs they have by far the highest transfer rate. Kids happily sit the bench at many top programs. Kids that play leave Florida State. I will leave it at that.
 
From what I’ve seen and heard the new rule change hasn’t changed things all that much. I can’t speak for DA teams, but I know of a couple of ‘03 and ‘02 ECNL teams that have had multiple college coaches attend their practices and games since the rule went into effect. Sounds like there is still a great deal of interest in the younger groups.
 
Nothing has changed other than the "unofficial visit". They can't have that until Junior year, which is dumb, because they moved the "offiial visit" also to the Junior year. Everything else for now is the same. However, come August or thereabouts, they will rule on the contact rules (text, phone calls, etc...). Until then same rules apply.
 
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