Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process

With coaches always telling their recruits and parents to not share their info, how do you know for sure they were at 100% short of sharing their NLI with you. If they did, the next question is why kids and parents share. Just a good way to cause problems in the future.
I was told by a Doc that my dd deal was "hush hush and don't tell anyone, shhhhhhh" because no one ever got a deal like her and other parents would get jealous. TMs get this info as well and they do tell and gossip. I think it sucks to be all "hush hush" by that's just moo. Transparency is the best way to do this. It's tough on a dad like me because so many parents had way more $$$$ to pay to play and "leap" a head of the line bro and get their kids on these lists. Soon all will be xposed!
 
With coaches always telling their recruits and parents to not share their info, how do you know for sure they were at 100% short of sharing their NLI with you. If they did, the next question is why kids and parents share. Just a good way to cause problems in the future.
I’m talking about my own DD - there was no sharing of the info - the NLI was sent to us for signatures
 
I was told by a Doc that my dd deal was "hush hush and don't tell anyone, shhhhhhh" because no one ever got a deal like her and other parents would get jealous. TMs get this info as well and they do tell and gossip. I think it sucks to be all "hush hush" by that's just moo. Transparency is the best way to do this. It's tough on a dad like me because so many parents had way more $$$$ to pay to play and "leap" a head of the line bro and get their kids on these lists. Soon all will be xposed!

The DOC was probably right. I also have never heard of someone paying a club in Europe to play "professional" soccer. The last time I checked, the clubs typically paid the players, not the other way around.
 
I’m talking about my own DD - there was no sharing of the info - the NLI was sent to us for signatures
Man I'm getting old. Somehow I completely misread a couple messages. First, congrats. Second, do you worry at all about sharing the offer with people? Even with some of the people I private message here and know who their kids are and they know mine, I don't share that, mainly because my wife told me the coach said not to share it, and I've learned to listen to her. ;) That is another thing, I've never even spoke to the head coach. I'll miss that about college as I've always enjoyed talking soccer with my daughters coaches.

For anyone with 2023's, there are still some colleges looking for players. Good luck.
 
Deion Sanders looks for ‘dual parent’ homes in QB recruits, ‘single mama’ households in defensive linemen.....

Deion knows what he's talking about. I had three soccer Docs tell me the coaches look at the mama of the player to see what the future will look like. I told my wife to get in the gym and lose 30lbs before she comes to the showcases.....lol.

I had to send this to my daughter. So funny yet so true!
 
Man I'm getting old. Somehow I completely misread a couple messages. First, congrats. Second, do you worry at all about sharing the offer with people? Even with some of the people I private message here and know who their kids are and they know mine, I don't share that, mainly because my wife told me the coach said not to share it, and I've learned to listen to her. ;) That is another thing, I've never even spoke to the head coach. I'll miss that about college as I've always enjoyed talking soccer with my daughters coaches.

For anyone with 2023's, there are still some colleges looking for players. Good luck.
First, this is an anonymous forum for the most part, second, we have shared with family and friends but not really discussed in the soccer arena with teammates and other soccer parents. Third, there are more details to our situation that I don't share to keep things private. Yes, there is all this secrecy about your arrangements which is pretty dumb. I guess it is like at work when you're not supposed to share what you are getting paid for your job. The players know more about each other's scholarship situations than they let on.
 
First, this is an anonymous forum for the most part, second, we have shared with family and friends but not really discussed in the soccer arena with teammates and other soccer parents. Third, there are more details to our situation that I don't share to keep things private. Yes, there is all this secrecy about your arrangements which is pretty dumb. I guess it is like at work when you're not supposed to share what you are getting paid for your job. The players know more about each other's scholarship situations than they let on.
California's new transparency law is starting to make things interesting here with work.

I have joked on here that sharing info with Grandpa meant everyone was going to find out. You are probably right about the players eventually finding out, I'm just trying to keep my head down and stay out of things as she gets ready to start her first year.
 
The DOC was probably right. I also have never heard of someone paying a club in Europe to play "professional" soccer. The last time I checked, the clubs typically paid the players, not the other way around.

Do you think that European academies are blind to the revenue that comes from affluent American families willing to pay to be part of a pseudo professional team? Times are changing. Corruption in soccer is not exclusive to the US.
 
A couple of naive questions for those who have been through the process:

- are scholarships typically negotiated based on $ value or percentage of full scholarship?

- if percentage, is it typically an overall % of full ride or separate % for tuition and room & board, etc.?
 


If you are American Indian and using soccer to get college, you are doing it wrong. Try Dartmouth Home | Native American Program (dartmouth.edu)
(you need to look up Dartmouth charter)
If you are none of that and get 800 math SAT (when SAT mattered) you stand less than 50% chance of getting in.

Yeah after a near genocide, generations of oppresssion, and cultural erasure you would think American Indians would have the audacity to get into college on their merit. Little Karen's soccer scholarship is a real apt comparision for this, bravo buddy!
 
A couple of naive questions for those who have been through the process:

- are scholarships typically negotiated based on $ value or percentage of full scholarship?

- if percentage, is it typically an overall % of full ride or separate % for tuition and room & board, etc.?
When my daughter verbally committed back in June 2022, they told my daughter and wife a percentage, who called me to confirm and I said heck yah. The head coach followed up with a text to my daughter verifying what they had talked about.

Forward to November 2022, my daughter got an email with her NLI offer, signed by the head coach and the AD. Page 2 was Athletics Grant in Aid Agreement that included a matrix that has rows titled Full, Partial, Other, plus columns that had Tuition & Fees, R&B, NRT, USHIP, Orientation Fee, Books, and Total. This was then filled out.

Every school has a different format. When you are discussing and an offer has been made, make sure you clarify what is and isn't included so no surprises later.

Good luck.
 
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When my daughter verbally committed back in June 2022, they told my daughter and wife a percentage, who called me to confirm and I said heck yah. The head coach followed up with a text to my daughter verifying what they had talked about.

Forward to November 2022, my daughter got an email with her NLI offer, signed by the head coach and the AD. Page 2 was Athletics Grant in Aid Agreement that included a matrix that has rows titled Full, Partial, Other, plus columns that had Tuition & Fees, R&B, NRT, USHIP, Orientation Fee, Books, and Total. This was then filled out.

Every school has a different format. When you are discussing and an offer has been made, make sure you clarify what is and isn't included so no surprises later.

Good luck.
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Any tips on college camps? How early should players start to attend (9th, 10th grade)? Assuming top schools like UCLA/Stanford don't recruit from their own camps but other colleges actually do look for players at their camps?
 
Any tips on college camps? How early should players start to attend (9th, 10th grade)? Assuming top schools like UCLA/Stanford don't recruit from their own camps but other colleges actually do look for players at their camps?
Don't go to a camp where your player will not be a standout player. In the camps and similar tryouts I have observed it was pretty easy to sort out the players worth looking at in the first 30 minutes or so.

Edit, after further thought -- it might be a good idea to go to a camp early in high school to get some idea of what level of play, speed, fitness, etc that is expected at those camps.
 
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Don't go to a camp where your player will not be a standout player. In the camps and similar tryouts I have observed it was pretty easy to sort out the players worth looking at in the first 30 minutes or so.

Edit, after further thought -- it might be a good idea to go to a camp early in high school to get some idea of what level of play, speed, fitness, etc that is expected at those camps.

I agree here. Every camp my kid attended, we emailed the coach and said, "are you hosting any standout players?" and used that information to filter our selections. On one occasion, at the 31 minute mark, my kid noticed a standout player and we just left.
 
UCLA and Stanford recruit from the National Program because some Euro identified those players when they were 12.
True story from the Legend himself, lol! I had two top Docs that said, "if your kid wants to play at UCLA, you better make that list in 7th or 8th grade and they both had accents. That was 7 years ago so maybe anyone can walk on to make the team.
 
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Yeah after a near genocide, generations of oppresssion, and cultural erasure you would think American Indians would have the audacity to get into college on their merit. Little Karen's soccer scholarship is a real apt comparision for this, bravo buddy!
The oppression is a bit off topic. That college is not merit based was/is my point.
I posted a pic a few pages back, not about Indians.

If you don't have merit and a girl - row. Lots of seats available.
There are angles all around.
 
If you are American Indian and using soccer to get college, you are doing it wrong. Try Dartmouth Home | Native American Program (dartmouth.edu)
(you need to look up Dartmouth charter)
If you are none of that and get 800 math SAT (when SAT mattered) you stand less than 50% chance of getting in.
The Dartmouth situation is kind of unique since it was originally founded as an institution to educate Native Americans. Its motto "Vox clamantis in deserto" translates as "A voice crying in the wilderness", since at the time of its founding Hanover NH was frontier territory. Service to Native Americans is still part of its tradition, despite the fact that there are few such students enrolled there.

There are some other strange ways to get into Dartmouth -- for example, if you are a resident of Wheelock, Vermont and graduate from high school, you can attend Dartmouth tuition-free because the entire township of Wheelock (named after Dartmouth's founder Eleazar Wheelock) was granted to the College so they could sell the land to help fund the college, and the college agreed to the free tuition deal in return.

On the other hand, memories of experience as a Dartmouth student are partially the inspiration for National Lampoon's Animal House.
 
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Don't go to a camp where your player will not be a standout player. In the camps and similar tryouts I have observed it was pretty easy to sort out the players worth looking at in the first 30 minutes or so.

Edit, after further thought -- it might be a good idea to go to a camp early in high school to get some idea of what level of play, speed, fitness, etc that is expected at those camps.
Agree on using a camp to figure out where your kid belongs. If your kid wants to play with the best, competing vs them is a good start.
 
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