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NorCalDad said:
For sure, but Trump has given them a platform. He's given them a reason to rise up.
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Maybe - they've always had a platform, albeit not mainstream. trump was easy and permissive. They hate him as much as anyone in government. They'll retreat back into the margins and shadows. This will blow over in a few months and the government will get back to the business of being inefficient and spending money.

These arrests that are happening right now are good. They also provide comfort to many and that is good enough for some of our esteemed and hard working leaders in congress.
 
Grace T. said:
Oh the lefties are the first to push certain crimes like enhancing them if they are hate crimes, consumer fraud, civil rights violations, antitrust, and corporate management regulations. I guess that makes me a communist because I think the US government now needs to come down on apple/google for colluding against parler. :p :p :p
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Alleged collusion :) In all seriousness, I doubt it was a coordinated effort. I think they all started to go "Oh shit, we can't have blood on our hands...we got to get out of here".
 
NorCalDad said:
Yeah being sarcastic. That video was reminiscent of scenes out of Fallujah. I know, a bit of a stretch, but that crowd didn't give a rat's ass they were killing an officer just trying to do his job.
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I get ya. There is zero excuse and no quarter IAW the law should be given.

It's unfortunate the officer didn't have protective gear on/available. There were plenty of similar incidents over the summer where officers were attacked and would have been severely injured or killed if they didn't have gear.
 
Grace T. said:
I remember when Powell spoke at commencement at my university and the students protested him for being a bigot, a war monger, and a right wing fascist. They tried to drown him out with jeers when he spoke. If my current self could go back in time and tell my 21 year old self that it's not even close, she'd wouldn't believe me. I wouldn't even tell her the censorship wasn't even close to what would happen.... she'd call me "cuckoo".
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He still gets that reaction and always will.
 
EOTL said:
trumpanzee

The idea that he is too dumb to be accountable for his behavior is a poor argument.
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Who is suggesting he shouldn't be held accountable? Dumb people should be held accountable. You are propping him up on a pedestal. The best way to combat an egomaniac is to downplay his ego while delivering punishment. But you politico types prefer to drink lattes and say bad words.

And back to the trumpanzee thing - very racist of you. But it's ok, in your world, trumpism is the great equalizer.
 
Grace T. said:
Oh the lefties are the first to push certain crimes like enhancing them if they are hate crimes, consumer fraud, civil rights violations, antitrust, and corporate management regulations. I guess that makes me a communist because I think the US government now needs to come down on apple/google for colluding against parler. :p :p :p
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You didn't answer the question.
 
happy9 said:
I get ya. There is zero excuse and no quarter IAW the law should be given.

It's unfortunate the officer didn't have protective gear on/available. There were plenty of similar incidents over the summer where officers were attacked and would have been severely injured or killed if they didn't have gear.
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I know this is buzzfeed -- but probably some kernels of truth in this:

www.buzzfeednews.com

These Black Capitol Police Officers Describe Fighting Off "Racist-Ass Terrorists"

Two Black officers told BuzzFeed News that their chief and other upper management left them totally unprepared and were nowhere to be found on the day.
www.buzzfeednews.com www.buzzfeednews.com
 
happy9 said:
Who is suggesting he shouldn't be held accountable? Dumb people should be held accountable. You are propping him up on a pedestal. The best way to combat an egomaniac is to downplay his ego while delivering punishment. But you politico types prefer to drink lattes and say bad words.

And back to the trumpanzee thing - very racist of you. But it's ok, in your world, trumpism is the great equalizer.
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Everyone here who believes he should not be impeached in order to appease magats. Who think he deserves a pension or any of the benefits of a former president. Everyone here who doesn’t want him and his family sued and criminally prosecuted into oblivion. Letting him have one second of respite, well, that what puts him on a pedestal. The only way this will ever end is to mock and humiliate him for the remainder of his life, and then his children’s, and then theirs. Bankruptcy, prison, constant lawsuits are the only way.

As for your interpretation of the phrase trumpanzee, you’re wrong about that and you know it. There’s zero racial element to it and the fact that there are pretty much three, well two after Herman Cain, black people who’ve provided their full throated support for the Bronze Baboon is nothing more than coincidence.
 
NorCalDad said:
I know this is buzzfeed -- but probably some kernels of truth in this:

www.buzzfeednews.com

These Black Capitol Police Officers Describe Fighting Off "Racist-Ass Terrorists"

Two Black officers told BuzzFeed News that their chief and other upper management left them totally unprepared and were nowhere to be found on the day.
www.buzzfeednews.com www.buzzfeednews.com
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Let's see what comes out of any investigation into the handling of the entire situation by the Capitol Police.

They turned down DOD assets, didn't secure the building, and did not have the correct internal assets available. This protest had been planned for weeks. The significance of the day was known to all and every federal law enforcement agency was seeing/hearing the same chatter on multiple platforms. It doesn't pass the common sense test. Something smells bad.
 
EOTL said:
Everyone here who believes he should not be impeached in order to appease magats. Who think he deserves a pension or any of the benefits of a former president. Everyone here who doesn’t want him and his family sued and criminally prosecuted into oblivion. Letting him have one second of respite, well, that what puts him on a pedestal. The only way this will ever end is to mock and humiliate him for the remainder of his life, and then his children’s, and then theirs. Bankruptcy, prison, constant lawsuits are the only way.

As for your interpretation of the phrase trumpanzee, you’re wrong about that and you know it. There’s zero racial element to it and the fact that there are pretty much three, well two after Herman Cain, black people who’ve provided their full throated support for the Bronze Baboon is nothing more than coincidence.
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I get it, you hate trump - your choice, free country, continue to froth over the idea - doesn't bother me. He will get what he deserves.

Part dos of your statement is utter BS. There are more than 3 black trump supporters in this country. Your little world consists of your keyboard and the usual social media platforms. Go ahead and pivot on your backfoot and tell me what I should think. It's a racist term. Tell you what, walk down the street, in your hood or another hood, find a black man or woman who supports trump, and call them a trumpanzee. Tell me exactly what them black folk do.
 
NorCalDad said:
This is pretty funny:

techcrunch.com

San Francisco police are prepping for a pro-Trump rally at Twitter headquarters | TechCrunch

San Francisco police are preparing for a pro-Trump protest at Twitter's headquarters, a building which has been essentially abandoned since the start of
techcrunch.com techcrunch.com

Nobody is even there....all of Tech is working remotely right now. I guess Twitter employees will watch the protest on the news.
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A friend and I were just talking about this. This is fairly close to some pretty hardcore areas, (meaning- within driving distance for a lot of places.) This could become a crazy situation.
 
Glitterhater said:
I know it happened- but what other facts do I need to check? All I'm saying is bombing is wrong- how is that debatable? I'm not touching anything else. You can debate the granular, feel free.
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The bombing is a fact, however no evidence was ever presented that she "planted the bomb". She was arrested two years later on a separate charge of possession of weapons and explosives.
 
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