President Joe Biden
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Poor analogy. This is your best friend next door went around tping the neighborhood a few months ago and you not only said nothing but you defended him. Then your neighbors cousin smashes up your kids bike, saying you deserved it because you are an asshat. Your neighbor comes over and apologizes for his cousin's behavior and offers to pay for the bike but you want your neighbor thrown out of the neighbor because he refuses to disavow his cousin strongly enough. You keep taunting your neighbor that his family is garbage, call the police on him and try to organize the rest of the neighborhood never to have anything to do with him.
The Dems are so escalatory, unlike magats who only incite coups and the overthrow of democracy. If things get worse when we come back “locked and loaded”, it’s Dems’ fault. They made us do it.
Glitterhater
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Here's the thing though- this is nothing but anecdotal. Every person on this board has left vs right story.
This is such an "If you can't beat em, join em" attitude to have. I'm actually surprised to see it coming from you.
I'd rather things settle down, Biden be a unifying president and us move on from the Trump mess. It doesn't seem like that's the choice given the now 3 escalations the Ds seem intent on pursuing.
My civil war clock is now at 6 after the events of this weekend. If it comes to that, I'm actually torn as to where I'd go...blue or red America. Lots of pros and cons both ways. I'm currently leaning red, though wouldn't be happy about it. Both sides need each other to balance the worst impulses of each. But the way things seem to be heading, it doesn't look like this marriage may be salvagable (and at least from the poll a substantial number of Americans seem to agree).
There is a difference between tp-ing a neighborhood and beating a police officer to death while overrunning the U.S. Capitol in support of an insurrection. In fact, there is no appropriate “analogy” to a coup.
Glitterhater
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If the R's were smart, (and it seems they are leaning this way,) they would denounce Trump and work on getting into a good position to win in 4 years.
I really think for that to happen they need to sever ties with that whole family.
I'm not sure Biden had 2 terms in him, (despite his age even.) There is a large chunk of "left centrists" that would like go repub with the right candidate. As long as it's not Ted fuck face Cruz, of course. (Sorry, I know he's a friend but he seems slimy as shit.)
This is all the fault of Democrats. Holding people accountable under the law is such an escalation in response to an attempted coup. Can’t we all just let seditionists be seditionists?
Put aside using recent terms like Trumpers etc, the far right wing is more dangerous to the US government than any group in the US. They are better organized, better trained, and truly believe in their cause. They dislike Trump as much as anyone. Trump was/is merely a vehicle of convenience for them. While antifa can be dangerous in spots, they lack the will, the discipline, and the organization to do anymore than what they've been doing. Antifa will sip lattes by day and set off fireworks by night.
Both sides revel in anarchy but the far right is more dangerously committed to their cause - Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City, Eric Rudolph, etc...I could go on. Most recently, the boogalo boys took advantage of the CA BLM riots and killed several law enforcement.
While there were plenty of idiots at the Capitol building, rest assured they will uncover a more sophisticated plot that goes well beyond what the average trumper was capable of. Will DOJ leak any of it out...maybe, The US government has a terrible track record containing these far right groups.
And yes, ANTIFA is a thing. Don't be fooled into the silly narrative about an idea VS a group. They are both and have received plenty of impromptu funding over the last 7-8 months. But they aren't as dangerous. Local law enforcement, when allowed, can easily contain. Until recently hamstrung, Portland and Seattle PD were always effective.
What are you talking about? Grace Karen says they don’t need to do anything. This is all on Democrats.
Glitterhater
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The last sentence of your first para- lol!
But yes- I fully agree. The far right is chillingly dangerous, IMO.
Why some? Being sarcastic?
How many members have ever incited a coup before last week?
Once their unemployment checks go away, they'll go back to their regularly scheduled protests focused around issues they don't really understand.
Many on here credit trump as being this mastermind of weaving together this complex series of right wing groups to carry out his wishes. That's giving him way too much credit. He's not smart enough to even thing that way. He likely doesn't even understand the complexity. People give him wayyy to much credit.
Your average fly over state trump supporter is walking away from what happened at the capitol wondering what the hell happened. Much like your average BLM support is wondering what the hell happened when cities like Minneapolis an Kenosha had city blocks burning for days.
I agree that the Dipshit in Chief is an imbecile. But even as an imbecile, he knew what his trumpanzee followers would do in response to his statements. The idea that he is too dumb to be accountable for his behavior is a poor argument. He is the president of the United States and many, many people around him made it very clear to him time and again over four years what was likely to happen as a result of his rhetoric. Neither he nor anyone get to use the stupidity of a guy with a UofPenn grad degree and who is the purported leader of the free world as an excuse for anything.
I think you totally summed up how I feel. I am much more worried about the extreme right than any antifa movement. The key thing being the extreme right is way more organized.
If magats beating a Capitol police officer to death during an insurrection does not cause the socalsoccer sycophants to question their perspective, let alone their voting history, what makes you think they care what Colin Powell says?
Yeah being sarcastic. That video was reminiscent of scenes out of Fallujah. I know, a bit of a stretch, but that crowd didn't give a rat's ass they were killing an officer just trying to do his job.