President Joe Biden

happy9 said:
Many on here credit trump as being this mastermind of weaving together this complex series of right wing groups to carry out his wishes. That's giving him way too much credit. He's not smart enough to even thing that way. He likely doesn't even understand the complexity. People give him wayyy to much credit.

Your average fly over state trump supporter is walking away from what happened at the capitol wondering what the hell happened. Much like your average BLM support is wondering what the hell happened when cities like Minneapolis an Kenosha had city blocks burning for days.
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For sure, but Trump has given them a platform. He's given them a reason to rise up.
 
espola said:
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I remember when Powell spoke at commencement at my university and the students protested him for being a bigot, a war monger, and a right wing fascist. They tried to drown him out with jeers when he spoke. If my current self could go back in time and tell my 21 year old self that it's not even close, she'd wouldn't believe me. I wouldn't even tell her the censorship wasn't even close to what would happen.... she'd call me "cuckoo".
 
whatithink said:
Pretty sensationalist, definitely stirring the pot and conclusions are pretty delusional. Given how heated people are, concluding that there is a "purge" coming and language like that is just dumping large logs on large fires.

Maybe some of this needs to be reframed, e.g. corporations give free accounts and platforms to people in exchange for their data. They have those people sign T&Cs (which they can change whenever they want and without anyone's permission). Nobody has a "right" to be on these platforms. Nobodies "rights" are being infringed if they decide to boot you off, if they can point to their T&Cs (which they can change whenever they want - and you agreed to that when you clicked "Agree").

If someone wants to be able to post what they want, when they want, if they want, then the technology is there to allow you to create that platform and applications ... but you may need to engage with a Corporate to do it ... and there will be T&Cs, so comply or don't.
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trump could of course just hold a press conference.
 
Grace T. said:
I remember when Powell spoke at commencement at my university and the students protested him for being a bigot, a war monger, and a right wing fascist. They tried to drown him out with jeers when he spoke. If my current self could go back in time and tell my 21 year old self that it's not even close, she'd wouldn't believe me. I wouldn't even tell her the censorship wasn't even close to what would happen.... she'd call me "cuckoo".
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Like I was saying @espola....
 
NorCalDad said:
Yeah being sarcastic. That video was reminiscent of scenes out of Fallujah. I know, a bit of a stretch, but that crowd didn't give a rat's ass they were killing an officer just trying to do his job.
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The thing that gets me is that someone on here said that the far right feels like they are "looked down upon for being uneducated rednecks (not my words) who like their guns and god". Not saying that poster agrees with that, I am just using that as an example.

Uh. Hmm. What part of trying to overrun democracy screams educated? Not only is it so completely stupid, what "god" would agree with stomping on a fellow human being? They are perpetuating their own stereotype! Have they looked in a mirror?
 
Grace T. said:
I new poll from frontier says 71% of trump voters anticipate a new civil war. 40.% of Biden voters think that. The pollster ain’t one of the big ones but numbers are still startling

a few years back I had to get politically involved (I loathe being politically involved) when local govt threatened to shut down my sons schools. I ran into conflict with a lot of people on the left and right (including getting racist and bigoted stuff and surprisingly not all from the right). A lot of nastiness from both sides. I must say though I found the left more open about their nastiness...I appreciated the honesty. The right though was more capable of introspection and able to condemn behavior they thought was over the line...I didn’t see much of that from the left. Nothing on this thread btw disavows me of this belief. If we divide I’d find it hard to decide which way I’d go but at this point I’d sooner take my chances with the right than left.
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Civil war is a far right, confederate sympathizer fantasy. You would lose again.
 
Glitterhater said:
The thing that gets me is that someone on here said that the far right feels like they are "looked down upon for being uneducated rednecks (not my words) who like their guns and god". Not saying that poster agrees with that, I am just using that as an example.

Uh. Hmm. What part of trying to overrun democracy screams educated? Not only is it so completely stupid, what "god" would agree with stomping on a fellow human being? They are perpetuating their own stereotype! Have they looked in a mirror?
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If you're going to call me out, no need to prance around with the passive aggressive talk. Just come out and say what you think.

Grown men who made oaths and then throw down their weapons and allow the nations symobols to be desecrated, are cowards to me. Every officer on duty that day should be fired and they should have their pensions taken away. That's how I feel.
 
tenacious said:
If you're going to call me out, no need to prance around with the passive aggressive talk. Just come out and say what you think.

Grown men who made oaths who throw down their weapons and allow the nations symobols to be desecrated, are cowards to me. Every officer on duty that day should be fired and they should have their pensions taken away. That's how I feel.
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What am I missing here? Calling you out for what?I think we actually agree on this.
 
Glitterhater said:
If the R's were smart, (and it seems they are leaning this way,) they would denounce Trump and work on getting into a good position to win in 4 years.

I really think for that to happen they need to sever ties with that whole family.

I'm not sure Biden had 2 terms in him, (despite his age even.) There is a large chunk of "left centrists" that would like go repub with the right candidate. As long as it's not Ted fuck face Cruz, of course. (Sorry, I know he's a friend but he seems slimy as shit.)
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Kasich
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Civil war is a far right, confederate sympathizer fantasy. You would lose again.
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It's attitudes like this which are going to start it. And in this civil war there will be no winners, only losers.

Besides, as others are pointing out, the right has the guns and is more crazy....the left is smarter and better organized but that will only serve them at the beginning.
 
Grace T. said:
It's attitudes like this which are going to start it. And in this civil war there will be no winners, only losers.

Besides, as others are pointing out, the right has the guns and is more crazy....the left is smarter and better organized but that will only serve them at the beginning.
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p.s. this is the crazy nutter hate I was talking about the left....you don't see it from the right wing trolls....there you have a tendency to see more out and out racism and bigotry....the crazy pound you in the dirt victory at all cost psychotic attitude is what you get from leftist trolls.
 
tenacious said:
Oh... I thought you we're referencing me for saying seeing those cowards get beaten makes me think god might still love America a few pages back.
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Oh no no... I was referencing a different post where someone was saying that this far right group claims they are angry for x,y,z....
 
Grace T. said:
It's attitudes like this which are going to start it. And in this civil war there will be no winners, only losers.

Besides, as others are pointing out, the right has the guns and is more crazy....the left is smarter and better organized but that will only serve them at the beginning.
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The left, America, has the US military.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
The left, America, has the US military.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. :D :D :D :D :D :D That is the dumbest and funniest thing anyone on this thread has posted. You realize that the woman that was shot was former military.

The officers tend to side with the establishment. Many grunts are sympathetic to the right. Few in the military are supportive of the left. Depending on the circumstances of what triggers it, the military would divide.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Civil war is a far right, confederate sympathizer fantasy. You would lose again.
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Law enforcement has been saying that the extreme right are the biggest domestic terror risk for years. The feds have treated them with kids gloves. They should have come down hard on the Bundies when they essentially occupied federal land and had an armed stand off. The same actors did it again in Oregon. They felt it is fine to go to the legislature in MI armed to the hilt - wtf.

this is a perfect excuse to go after whole swathes of these guys who seem to break the law with relative impunity.
 
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