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It would have been politically easier for Obama to wait until after the elections, but then those Americans would have been sitting in Iran that much longer.
If Obama was the great leader he claims to be he would have negotiated their release when he signed the great deal we made with Iran to keep it nuclear free......pfffft.
 
If we were trying to work with elements within Iran that are more friendly to us than others, that would be one such reason to stay quiet...
We are dealing with a government that continues to call for "Death to America", that is the biggest supporter of terrorism in the world, who stopped one of our navel vessels & then humiliated the crew by filming and using for propaganda images of those sailors on their knees with hands above their heads & who continue to show provocative actions by harassing our Navy in international waters. Iran has test fired missiles, they by treaty can't have & yet we clandescently give them money and State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau says the U.S. couldn’t say more about the Jan. 19 payments because of diplomatic sensitivities.???
Screw America's sensitivities.
 
We are dealing with a government that continues to call for "Death to America", that is the biggest supporter of terrorism in the world, who stopped one of our navel vessels & then humiliated the crew by filming and using for propaganda images of those sailors on their knees with hands above their heads & who continue to show provocative actions by harassing our Navy in international waters. Iran has test fired missiles, they by treaty can't have & yet we clandescently give them money and State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau says the U.S. couldn’t say more about the Jan. 19 payments because of diplomatic sensitivities.???
Screw America's sensitivities.

I too am sickened by the extremist Religious wackos that run the show in Iran, but I feel that way about any and all people who take their religion too seriously. Death to America goes back to the fact that we intervened in their Country's political system to install someone friendly to us, we would be shouting the same thing if it were us. You can choose to believe there are nefarious reasons behind this payment, that's your choice, don't make it so.
 
I too am sickened by the extremist Religious wackos that run the show in Iran, but I feel that way about any and all people who take their religion too seriously. Death to America goes back to the fact that we intervened in their Country's political system to install someone friendly to us, we would be shouting the same thing if it were us. You can choose to believe there are nefarious reasons behind this payment, that's your choice, don't make it so.

I'm not alone in feeling that way...if you choose to stick your head in the sand once again, that's your choice and you made it so.
 
I'm not alone in feeling that way...if you choose to stick your head in the sand once again, that's your choice and you made it so.

You probably also feel the nuclear deal with Iran was a mistake, despite most every nuclear proliferation expert agreeing it was the right move...
 
You probably also feel the nuclear deal with Iran was a mistake, despite most every nuclear proliferation expert agreeing it was the right move...
How the deal with North Korea work out?

When it comes to Iran, I say don't trust, definitely verify & the next time one of their little gun boat approaches one of our destroyers...blow it out of the water.
 

To answer your question about how did it go?

"Although the agreement had largely broken down, North Korea did not restart work on the two production size nuclear power plants that were frozen under the agreement. These plants could potentially have produced enough weapons-grade plutonium to produce several nuclear weapons per year. The Agreed Framework was successful in freezing North Korean plutonium production in Yongbyon plutonium complex for eight years From 1994 to December 2002.[43]

Discussions are taking place through the Six-party talks about a replacement agreement, reaching a preliminary accord on September 19, 2005. The accord makes no mention of the U.S. contention that North Korea has a secret, underground enriched uranium program. However the new accord would require North Korea to dismantle all nuclear facilities, not just specific plants as in the Agreed Framework.[44] This has been followed up by the February 13, 2007 agreement which has largely adopted this September 19 statement. Its implementation has been successful so far, with only a slight delay being recorded due to an issue of funds being unfrozen by the US actually reaching North Korea.

On May 31, 2006, KEDO decided to terminate the LWR construction project.[45]"

Doesn't sound so bad? Has something gone way South recently and if so, that doesn't seem to take away from the results of the 1992 agreement?
 
To answer your question about how did it go?

"Although the agreement had largely broken down, North Korea did not restart work on the two production size nuclear power plants that were frozen under the agreement. These plants could potentially have produced enough weapons-grade plutonium to produce several nuclear weapons per year. The Agreed Framework was successful in freezing North Korean plutonium production in Yongbyon plutonium complex for eight years From 1994 to December 2002.[43]

Discussions are taking place through the Six-party talks about a replacement agreement, reaching a preliminary accord on September 19, 2005. The accord makes no mention of the U.S. contention that North Korea has a secret, underground enriched uranium program. However the new accord would require North Korea to dismantle all nuclear facilities, not just specific plants as in the Agreed Framework.[44] This has been followed up by the February 13, 2007 agreement which has largely adopted this September 19 statement. Its implementation has been successful so far, with only a slight delay being recorded due to an issue of funds being unfrozen by the US actually reaching North Korea.

On May 31, 2006, KEDO decided to terminate the LWR construction project.[45]"

Doesn't sound so bad? Has something gone way South recently and if so, that doesn't seem to take away from the results of the 1992 agreement?
They have nuclear weapons and they had them before Bill left office.... doesn't sound so bad?
Well you certainly are entitled to your opinion.
You maybe the only one that thinks a nuclear armed North Korea not a bad deal....

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The Washington Post
Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2015.
North Korea has conducted nuclear tests before, but the nuclear test the country carried out Wednesday could be dramatically different. According to Pyongyang, the device tested was a hydrogen bomb – a type of device that produces a considerably more powerful blast than the previous devices tested. South Korean officials and a number of nuclear experts have cast doubt on the claim, pointing out that the yield recorded in the test seemed to be similar to the previous tests conducted by North Korea.

Despite the doubts, the unexpected nuclear test is yet another reminder of how the U.S.-led nuclear deal with North Korea, brokered under President Bill Clinton in 1994, failed. Isolated, embattled North Korea is the only country to test nuclear weapons in almost 20 years, and it shows no signs of slowing down. Given the controversy surrounding a recent nuclear agreement reached with Iran, it's worth considering exactly how the deal to stop its nuclear ambitions fell apart.
read more:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...w-death-of-the-nuclear-deal-with-north-korea/
 
They have nuclear weapons and they had them before Bill left office.... doesn't sound so bad?
Well you certainly are entitled to your opinion.

There you go with the opinion thing again. Can you refute what I copied and pasted, it was from the link you gave me, you know that right?

...and no, I don't think N. Korea having nukes is good, but could we have stopped that? So far, these deals seem to be about slowing, limiting, making more transparent, not "keeping them from ever getting a nuke"...
 
There you go with the opinion thing again. Can you refute what I copied and pasted, it was from the link you gave me, you know that right?

...and no, I don't think N. Korea having nukes is good, but could we have stopped that? So far, these deals seem to be about slowing, limiting, making more transparent, not "keeping them from ever getting a nuke"...
What a wanker...

North Korea claims it’s now able to nuke the US mainland

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...e-us-mainland/ar-BBw3UB9?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
 
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