Maybe the X-Files was true. Dang, Mulder and Scully were on to something.
Parents from certain teams
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baldref
GOLD
You would think the parent would be embarrassed too
But alas, usually not the case. I’ve had parents want to box on the field after a u13 game. I have given up trying to figure some people out
Surfref
PREMIER
Definitelynotanotherref
SILVER ELITE
Pobrecito. Yeah strange, its almost like parents that are friendly and respectful of authority seem to do weird things like "talk to the referee" and "make him smile"... suspicious wankers.
I like it, keep it “interesante.”
*GOBEARGO*
PREMIER
I heard the aliens have orange skin
Or really thin skin.
MijoPlumber
SILVER
Hey Mijo. Nope not me! That must have been those aliens you were referring to. You have a galactic imagination. Maybe you are seeing things on the field as well.
Let’s be clear we see it happen on a regular basis.
Of the 40-50 games my Mija plays per year I would say at least 10 have horrendous caca de toro referees. Agree some refs and coaches do know each other and clearly some hate each other and some support each other, it’s obvious.
At a game in Norco the center ref was related do one of the players. They called her aunt and the AR was also related! Same situation in Temecula. What a joke!
Your denial this CACA happens shows all of us how blind you choose to be of the facts.
MijoPlumber
SILVER
Mijo, Agree and they look like idiots!
That is no excuse for bad refereeing. Maybe all you honorable refs should get on the bad refs to step up or get out.
baldref
GOLD
MijoPlumber
SILVER
Mijo, I believe you really do care whether the game is managed fair and impartial. You seem to be one of the honorable people and I would it want to be out there getting yelled at needlessly either.
I too would like to see the insane out of control parents shut up. They detract from the game and annoy everyone.
Maybe leagues should institute new policy on parent behavior and fine offending teams.
outside!
DA
MijoPlumber,
I have been videoing both of my kids games for over 5 years now. I am able to go frame by frame on a large monitor. I used to spend a lot of time reviewing "questionable" calls. I found that most of the time, the ref was either absolutely correct, or that it was a close enough call that I could see that the ref made the best call possible in real time without VAR. I have also seen some bad calls, but not as many as you would think. As your player gets older, and if she plays at a higher level, the quality of the referees will get better.
I have been videoing both of my kids games for over 5 years now. I am able to go frame by frame on a large monitor. I used to spend a lot of time reviewing "questionable" calls. I found that most of the time, the ref was either absolutely correct, or that it was a close enough call that I could see that the ref made the best call possible in real time without VAR. I have also seen some bad calls, but not as many as you would think. As your player gets older, and if she plays at a higher level, the quality of the referees will get better.
Surfref
PREMIER
{sarcasm alert} That means you have a lot of video of me making all of the calls in favor of your son and daughter’s teams since I know you.
Surfref
PREMIER
Referees are not supposed to referee a game played by a relative of theirs. The referee should have contacted their assigner and got the assignment changed as soon as they realized they would be refereeing a family member.
I am not saying that there are subpar referees out there, but most of the referees do a good job. Most referees don’t care who wins or loses.
Surfref, I don’t feel you owe this poster an explanation. Keep officiating, running, and drinking good beer.
MijoPlumber
SILVER
Mijo, I video as well having to go through multiple times editing. I would like to believe what you said however even ECNL games when played on one particular home field it is a joke. Just a fact there are some really biased people out there and they are pathetic. I would rather my Mija play down 9 v. 11 than 11 v. 12. It kills the confidence of the players when the ref is the other team’s 12th player.
Again Mijo, doesn’t justify bad parent behavior!
Frank
GOLD
I recommend you get out there and show us how it is done. There is always the need for quality refs.
original805
SILVER
All i can say is we went to nationals and the refs had to qualify through state and regionals to be there and wow what a difference. The quality of refs referring your games makes a huge difference.
Definitelynotanotherref
SILVER ELITE
I think the mental block is that you don't believe that I believe that there are bad referees. Let me put this a different way. I'm goin to categorize the referees and assign a rough percentage to each type of referee based on my years of experience.
Category A (10%): This is a good ref doing a good job that both team think is doing a good job -
(A good referee is one that gets over 95% of the calls right and gets 100% of the major match incidents right). (CLARIFICATION: There are a large amount of calls that can be called either way and still be justified under the laws. A refs "correct" call falls in this allowable range).Category B (15%): This is a good referee doing a good job that one of the teams think is doing a terrible or subpar job
Category C (50%): This is an average referee that gets 80-95% of calls right. They usually lack in one way or another aside from knowledge of the game.
(They can fall short slightly in fitness, experience, confidence, or nuance. These are the referees that Bald, surf, and I try to protect. They have potential and are doing the best job they can. They get major calls right, they just need to learn how to "sell" their calls better. Sometimes they give out cards when a better ref could have used his persona. They have trouble dealing with "personalities" and let games get a little wild because of this. They are still getting most calls right. A referee "letting a game get out of control" is usually not lack of foul recognition, but just an inability to assert his authority.Category D: This is an average referee that misses a major match incident. (5%)
They are told after the game by their peers because they are open to criticism and feel bad they missed it. It is usually lack of experience or courage/confidence to make the right call that makes them swallow their whistle. Everyone has a bad day occasionally.Category E: This is a bad referee (15%)
They are either too new or young or old or fat. Maybe they don't have a full grasp of the laws or tunnel vision hard. They still try to be fair and have fun reffing.Category F: These are (borderline) evil referees. (5%) (probably less though)
Refereeing can attract a certain clientele. These are guys (almost always) whose wives or children or parents don't listen to them at home but now they are the center authority and you have to do what they say. These guys go on a power trip on the field and feed off your helpless whines and tears that are futile because you have to accept their decisions. Be glad that these people only chose refereeing as their outlet to dominate. Unfortunately, they almost never go too far with their power trip to do something that would warrant a revocation of their license. They only never get caught because parents whine too much about Categories B-E.
MijoPlumber
SILVER
Thank you Mijo,
Hey I think most of us really appreciate our referees and most are good people. There is no excuse for any chili in the eye talk for any parents. Most know saying nothing works better at least doesn’t make it worse.
You didn’t mention, category G - Friends and family.
jrcaesar
SILVER ELITE
For every 100 games that you've seen, only 10 times have you seen a good referee doing a good job? What area are you in where 90% of the youth games refereed are subpar?