The POS homophobe can espouse all of the hateful beliefs she wants on the 700 Club. I’m just saying that when she does, she gets to be treated like all good employers treat bigots who also aren’t good enough at their jobs. Feel free to go on tv and tell the world how you feel about your gay co-workers. I’d love to see how that goes for you. The 1st Amendment isn’t going to help you.
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The POS homophobe can espouse all of the hateful beliefs she wants on the 700 Club. I’m just saying that when she does, she gets to be treated like all good employers treat bigots who also aren’t good enough at their jobs. Feel free to go on tv and tell the world how you feel about your gay co-workers. I’d love to see how that goes for you. The 1st Amendment isn’t going to help you.
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Sorry Outlaw! That video doesn't show a lot of resisting to the point where a cops knee is in a mans neck for over 8 mins. For example, it took the cops 45 seconds to handcuff him. 45 second unhand cuffed vs 8 mins with a knee to his neck. See the difference!This is the video taken when he's pulled over. This is when he originally resists and the partner has to come over and assist. This isn't peaceful.
New video appears to show police forcing George Floyd out of his car moments before an officer knelt on his neck for 8 minutes
George Floyd was pinned down by an officer on Monday, during which he became unresponsive and later died.www.insider.com
Wahhh!!!! Hinkle the homophobe has no right to a job, and the 1st Amendment does not help her. She can say whatever she wants in her religious house of bigotry. But she doesn’t get to be an awful person in public without consequences.
Anyone who tells you that kneeling before a flag is treasonous is far reaching and I'm not sure what their basis of treason would be from. When has kneeling before anything ever been interpreted as treasonous? Kneeling is an act of begging, mostly begging for mercy.
Hinkle did take a principled stand - a principled stand to exclude non straight members of society. I support her right to take a stand. Not every principled stand will be supported by your workplace, especially if a lot of your potential future co-workers are gay. Will you get hired at a diverse school as a teacher with a Nazi tattoo on your neck? No. You have a right to that tattoo but you aren't going to make everyone uncomfortable at the school. You may be qualified in so many ways, but if you choose to publicly show your discrimination, your potential future employees don't have a choice but to disqualify you as a candidate.
Thoughtful and appreciated. But I don't think is quite so clear cut since what defines hatred and discrimination is, in many instances, subjective rather than objective. For some, saying that a person's sex is based on that person's physiology rather than that person's perception of self (which some would assert is really gender rather than sex) is a matter of biology and not bigotry. JK Rowling's twitter feed indicates that others view that as discrimination and hatred with a vitriol that any reasonable person would see as much more offensive than a nuanced disagreement over terms. Some people agree that there is racism is America but that it is not so institutionally systemic as others might believe. There is legitimate scholarship on both sides. Does one of those positions constitute discrimination and hatred? Does it depend on who you ask? Who gets to decide who else is righteously cancelled? What makes that judgment so pure and so fair?
I agree that people should absolutely be held accountable for what they say and what they think, so I have no issue with Reebok pulling its association with CrossFit based on what its founder said if that is what it wants to do. People can buy Reebok or not based on their support of its culture or rejection of it or just whether they like what it sells. But exercising that choice does not come at the risk of being characterized as racist, evil, bigoted, etc. Are people who question whether public officials who deem mass protests related to race as necessary and protests of health orders that have innumerable significant consequences as based in white supremacy (really?) are acting in good faith based on science and without a political agenda racist? I did that despite agreeing with the need for all sorts of race-related reforms in this country. For many, that makes me a racist bigot. I do not accept that label.
What now constitutes hate speech - or silence as imputed hate speech - is a problem in my view. There is no longer a space for well-meaning disagreement or even electing not to have anything to say. Is it not possible to criticize a protester's tactics without criticizing the message? If I say looting and destroying property and even killing those who try to protect property is wrong does that mean I think it is OK for cops to choke to death a man in handcuffs? Not to me, but for too many people that amounts to discrimination and hate speech or a denial of the substance of the protest. Am I deflecting to say what about Officer Dorn? If some view the hundreds of millions of losses in property damage and theft as something more than a footnote on the events of the last week, is that discrimination and racism? In my house, no. I don't know about your house, but I do know that in many, many houses, it is.
Can a person no longer choose whether to agree or disagree with another person's perspective? I know a white person whose parents used to eat mayonnaise sandwiches and beans bought on grocery store credit when the father was in the military and who has lived a life with serious disabilities resulting from his combat service - does that person (and certainly that person's parents) not have the right to disagree with Kapernick's or Rapinoe's choice of tactics without being a bigot? Do Kapernick and Rapinoe get to decide how other people must interpret their tactics? The anthem wasn't the point of the protest. Ok, I accept that. Does that mean one can't disagree with the election to use the anthem as a tactic to draw attention to the point of the protest? Why else was the anthem used in the protest but to offend people and garner attention? Is everyone required to agree with that choice or is that disagreement discrimination and hatred? On the continuum of how Kapernick could have expressed himself relative to the anthem, is anything too far? Would sitting down have been too far? Comments from Nate Boyer suggest that his advice to Kapernick was that sitting or laying down would be too far. Sitting is offensive but kneeling is not? To whom? Isn't that up to the person who is the recipient of the presentation? Kapernick and Rapinoe did what he did intentionally because he knew it would be controversial and it would upset people. It was a tactic intended to do exactly what it did. The USWNT now wants US Soccer to acknowledge that it was wrong to prohibit kneeling by players representing the United States during the anthem of the United States. No room there to disagree without it being discrimination and hatred?
Where is the check against the clear desire of more than a few to punish those who disagree? That mentality is counterproductive, unnecessary and divisive. Why would people expect others to just capitulate on the altar of a privilege that many do not feel or believe they enjoy? Why does everyone who disagrees just need to listen and be educated? No arrogance there? If people decide that the only way they can be satisfied is to crush, dominate and persecute those who disagree with them, then I fear for the future. That approach will someday lead to scaled violence.
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There are many of us that take issue with Kaeperprick's protest. I disagree with wearing "cops are pigs" socks, waiting until he was benched after doing ZERO for African Americans when he had the podium and coming to the defense of lifelong criminals that died because they made stupid decisions when confronted by police. I reject him on basic principle.
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The man was 6' 6". The cop had to pull him out and his partner ran around to assist. Again, I'm not defending the cop in ANY way. The knee in the back was totally separate, but what would you say if he got back in the car and drove over 2 children crossing the street because he was loaded on meth and fentanyl? 45 seconds is about 40 seconds longer than it should take to cuff someone. And we don't know what happened while they were wrestling with him in the car, but there is one common denominator in all of these "cop killings". I keep challenging people here to give me names of innocent people and nobody ever does. Even the black gal that was shot in the raid... her boyfriend was buddies with the drug dealer and used her address. Horrible story. I'm sure she did nothing wrong, but there's no long list of innocent black people being murdered by cops. Only career criminals that refused to comply with an arrest."
What sickens me the most is making some kind of hero out of this man. Innocent black people dying all over the place but THIS one is an issue. Not when people don't even know Calvin Munerlyn's name and David Dorn's name because they were killed by other African Americans. Pathetic.
You can say the slave ship had a higher percentage but that doesn’t make it right does it?
Case in point - HBO Max just pulled Gone With the Wind from its movie library because of its portrayal of black people. It is a civil war movie. Hattie McDaniel won the first ever Oscar by a black actress for her role in the film. No room to disagree on this point? HBO says it will return the film to the library but once after it has the opportunity to add an editorial reference denouncing the films depiction of black people as racist. If someone would rather watch the movie without HBO telling them how they should feel about it, they will need to look elsewhere. Until it can't be found elsewhere. How long until the book burning starts? Or is that OK so long as the books that get burned are discriminatory and racist? As decided by whom?
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Right? African Americans make up 13% of the population and 65% of NFL players. That's not enough? Now we can't release black players like they can't be fired from jobs? Kaepernick was trash his final year. He inherited Alex Smith's team in Week 10 because of an injury. Go look at the stats. The phony is unemployed because of his mouth and ego that prevents him from taking backup money.
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They took off Live PD and Cops. Cops has been on for 30 years. Why? TOO much truth? TOO much reality? Ridiculous.
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Colin used it for his own benefit. He got benched and played the victim card. Kid was abandoned by his black father at birth, grew up middle class in a diverse area and turned down a pro baseball contract in high school. He never did a single thing for the African American community when he had the microphone at the Super Bowl. Nothing until he played victim. THEN and ONLY then did he start doing. The "cops are pigs" socks was a joke. It's a bit ludicrous to hear about "white privilege" from a guy that's half white and calls himself black.
And Nate Boyer's expressed pain at him sitting that Nate Boyer feels was ameliorated by him instead kneeling must necessarily be the view of everybody else? One tactic not OK, another OK, as decided for all by Nate Boyer, and disagreement amounts to discrimination and hatred? Really?
Very well said. Unfortunately, the age of reason and common sense appears to be in the rear view mirror. It's all about emotions and how it makes you feel these days. Apparently at some point the right to not be offended was added to the Bill of Rights. For many people the most threatening thing is a dissenting opinion. Good faith debate has fallen victim to name calling and shouting down your opponent. or simply silencing them with the cancel culture. Facts are just inconvenient to the narrative.
Maybe I'm old school, but I wonder what happened to the concepts I was raised with?
"The Golden Rule"
"Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me"
"Two wrongs don't make a right"
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Yep... what'd I say? I suppose too much truth and reality can give people the wrong impression at this "critical" time, right?
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Long-running US TV show 'Cops' is axed after 31 years on screen
Cops, the true-crime docu-series that has run on US TV for 31 years, has been axed by the Paramount Network in the wake of the worldwide Black Lives Matter protests.
Yes, it’s fine for people to burn all the hateful and racist books they want. It’s fine to deface all the hateful racist confederate monuments they want. Also fine to fire bigots from their jobs. Also fine to not show a racist movie, or include editorial references so children of racist dumb-asses might have some hope of being shamed into being better people than their parents. So ironic that you are objecting to HBO using its “right of free speech” to explain that a racist movie is, well, racist. The real problem for you is that you oppose HBO’s free speech rights and the fact that HBO won’t let you continue burying your head in the sand about the systemic racism that has permeated our country from its inception and still does. Well, too bad for you that HBO doesn’t care about your ridiculous defense of bigotry. Fighting racism does not lead to state-sponsored “book burning” fascism. But supporting wannabe fascists who support monuments glorifying racists, stifle the media, and systematically deny voting rights to minorities because its the only way they can stay in power, well, that does support fascism.
You are trying way too hard to portray racist and bigoted pieces of s**t as victims. The 1st Amendment allows HBO to say whatever it wants about Gone With the Wind, with the only “repercussion” that its efforts to promote equality will result in adding two customers for every one POS bigot who cancels his subscription in outrage that HBO won’t “bothsides” support for tiki torch wielding dumbs**ts.
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This isn't about me or "disrespecting" the flag or veterans. It is most definitely about you and your inability to face the facts and realize that it is time for a change in how our police forces are organized and regulated. When some one commits a racist act, they are practicing racism and they are racist.
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No, she actually was handed a few penalties and made the team all about her after kneeling. There was a time she just played and made it about the team. Nobody gives a shit about her personal agenda. Nobody gives a shit about ANY athlete's personal agenda.