Not a minute or penny more!

[EOTL]

I agree with everything you have said above. One can take a stand against looters and violent protestors without being a racist. We all should be against looters and violent protestors. That's black and white. It's ok to support the "open up CA" without being a racist. We should all support people's right to protest to open up - regardless of our view points- because it's an exercise of the 1st amendment. I fully support opening up with social distancing and required face masks - like two months ago. It's ok not to have a view point until you gather more information or simply not have an opinion at all after you gather all the information if you think it's too gray.

I'm sure there will be people who say extreme things and lump things together incorrectly, but don't let those people define your morality and obligations as citizens of this great nation.

There's no room for police brutality. It's wrong no matter how you slice it. It's not ok for 3 police officers to help murder someone because they are just following orders. I don't allow my children to use the excuse that they did it because their peers did too or someone with authority told them it's ok. The buck stops with you kid. I raised you to think on your own and I expect you to. I will not stoop so low as to think that the majority of the police force do not have moral values and are comfortable just following orders to allow murder of it's own citizens like Nazi Germany.

It's not ok to use your police powers to cover up a killing of a human being because he's your friend or peer. I respect most of our police force and I give them leniency and perk to give free get out of jail cards to family and friends for small things, like speeding or vandalism. However, covering up a murder of an innocent jogger amounts to aiding and abetting in a murder. If any common citizen were to cover up a murder crime for family and friends, we would be inside a court defending ourselves against aiding and abetting in a murder case. This is not a gray area.

I do agree that in today's society, we have too many people on the far left and right, who deem too many things as black and white issues. Police brutality using excessive force is is black and white. Now - some people go to the extreme and look at cases where there's not excessive force or where force IS necessary but resulted in a death, and lump it in incorrectly. Don't let those people make you think that being against police brutality is wrong or is a gray issue. They are wrong for lumping it together. An officer, defending himself against lethal violence must use lethal force if necessary and at times s/he might make mistakes and it's ok. An officer, not under real or reasonably perceived lethal threat or great bodily injury, should NEVER be allowed to use physical threat.

Don't confuse the gray areas with the black and white issues. Don't use the gray areas as an excuse not to stand up for the black and white issues.

JK rowlings didn't say anything wrong. Aziz Ansari should never have been added to the MeToo movement. Does that mean we should not be against discrimination or rape? NO - it's still wrong to discriminate or rape.

Kneeling .... name another circumstance in which we ever think kneeling is treasonous and evil? It's an act of submission used for God and your spouse. (don't go there, think proposal)

Somehow, someone, convinced a large group of people and myself for a while, that it's an insult to our flag. What's the logic and reason behind defining kneeling before our flag as treasonous? drop all your annoyance with KAP and RAP. Think about the act itself. It's not burning the flag or cutting it up. It's not vandalizing it with curse words or nazi symbols. It is an act of submission to our great flag. It was an act, which was thoroughly thought out in conjunction with a fellow military peer in order to show respect to the flag and the military.

Don't use the gray areas as an excuse not to stand up for the black and white issues. Police brutality is wrong. Covering up a murder is wrong. Discrimination is wrong. Not holding yourself accountable and your peers accountable is wrong.

Four years ago I’d probably agree with most of what you’re saying. But our Cheeto Hitler changed the rules. He’s shown us that it’s acceptable behavior for our fearless - strike that - fearful (bunker boy) leader and his lunatic neo-Nazi racist tangerine lovers to trample on those who support civil rights and civility in general, so let’s do it. They want divisiveness, and I say let’s give it to them.

 

[mlx]

Who is not served? Black criminals that refuse to comply? In this case, the cop was clearly wrong. What others? Do you have some names that we can discuss? When George Floyd and his thug buddies broke into the home of a black, pregnant woman, and George put the gun against her belly and unborn child, while his buddies robbed her, she called the police and they put the criminals in jail.

It seems that you are the classic racist who only see black "criminals" who deserve the brutality they got. How about Breonna? She was asleep. What about this white guy who is not a criminal?

You don't care or you disregard those police brutality cases becase you see those victims as different than you.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

It seems that you are the classic racist who only see black "criminals" who deserve the brutality they got. How about Breonna? She was asleep. What about this white guy who is not a criminal?

You don't care or you disregard those police brutality cases becase you see those victims as different than you.

I've already addressed this guy. He kept reaching to his waistband and THIS after waving a realistic gun outside the window of his hotel. Frankly, he's a fucking moron.

 

[sascbreakaway83]

Ahh good ol Nationalism the greatest of brainwashes.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Another genius... THIS piece of shit. No, nobody should be rioting and looting because your sorry ass believes you're a perpetual victim. If you support this bitch and her beliefs, YOU are the problem.

And I quote:

“The reason buildings are burning is not just for our brother George Floyd,” Mallory said during that speech. “They’re burning down because people here in Minnesota are saying to people in New York, to people in California, to people in Memphis, to people across this nation, enough is enough.”

“I don’t give a damn if they burn down,” Mallory added. “I don’t give a damn if they burn down Target, because Target should be on the streets with us, calling for the justice that our people deserve.”

Tamika Mallory: 'Movement begins again' when the officers charged with killing George Floyd head to court

There comes a time when it's OK for protesters to go home, says activist Tamika Mallory. But she says that when the court trials of the officers accused in George Floyd's killing begin, so does a new stage of the movement.

www.yahoo.com

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

You are stupid even for a bigot. Yes, Al Sharpton has spoken out about black on black crime many times. Read his eulogy at Michael Brown’s memorial service for example. Regardless, neither black on black crime nor Reverend Al’s important efforts to curb it are excuses for dirty racist white cops to murder innocent black people.

Yes, LeBron James has poured 10s of millions into improving conditions in inner cities, including funding an entire tuition free private school for the underprivileged in his hometown of Akron. LeBron has put so much more money into charitable causes than your buddy Hannity and the entire family of the p**y grabbing Trumplethinskin that it isn’t even close. But LeBron “only” spending tens of millions of his own dollars to improve the lives of thousands of black, underprivileged inner city kids is also not an excuse for dirty racist white cops to murder black people.

Kanye is a MAGAt, so f**k that guy. But even he donates way more than your buddy the bloated orange cheeto child molestor, who takes the charitable donations of others, launders it through his own “foundation” so he can steal most of it and illegally take a tax deduction on the remainder despite not donating a penny himself, and then take credit for what little actually goes where it should. And unlike Cadet Bonespurs, Rev Al and LeBron and their families aren’t legally barred from running a charitable foundation due to their ongoing fraud.

I am not surprised you’re making up lies about black celebrities and reverends given how you obviously feel about black people. Lies are the only way for bigots to refuse giving credit that black people deserve for the charitable work they perform. Just go back to rationalizing how its ok to murder innocent black people.

Al Sharpton is a fucking hack that only speaks when white cops are to blame, can get paid yet refuses to pay his taxes. He's a fucking joke and so are you if you buy into his bullshit. I don't give a fuck about his eulogy. He doesn't give a shit when blacks murder each other 7 times a day.

LeBron is trash. Fucking clown with a high school education whining about white plantation owners in the NBA. Where the fuck would this babbling moron be without the league? Probably shoplifting with Jameis Winston and any number of black felons in the NFL. Lies? LMAO! You can't name ONE thing I've posted that isn't accurate. Keep crying... keep waving your rainbow flag. Keep praying to your Reverend Weave while the rest of us laugh our asses off at him.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Do you see white people protesting white deaths of any kind? Ever? No, you don't. No other race has to blame someone else for their problems. Just 1.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Four years ago I’d probably agree with most of what you’re saying. But our Cheeto Hitler changed the rules. He’s shown us that it’s acceptable behavior for our fearless - strike that - fearful (bunker boy) leader and his lunatic neo-Nazi racist tangerine lovers to trample on those who support civil rights and civility in general, so let’s do it. They want divisiveness, and I say let’s give it to them.

Remember when Obama told black criminals they were victims and could be his own son? Yeah... that sure fixed Chicago, didn't it?

 

[EOTL]

Another genius... THIS piece of shit. No, nobody should be rioting and looting because your sorry ass believes you're a perpetual victim. If you support this bitch and her beliefs, YOU are the problem.

And I quote:

“The reason buildings are burning is not just for our brother George Floyd,” Mallory said during that speech. “They’re burning down because people here in Minnesota are saying to people in New York, to people in California, to people in Memphis, to people across this nation, enough is enough.”

“I don’t give a damn if they burn down,” Mallory added. “I don’t give a damn if they burn down Target, because Target should be on the streets with us, calling for the justice that our people deserve.”

Tamika Mallory: 'Movement begins again' when the officers charged with killing George Floyd head to court

There comes a time when it's OK for protesters to go home, says activist Tamika Mallory. But she says that when the court trials of the officers accused in George Floyd's killing begin, so does a new stage of the movement.

www.yahoo.com

She’s absolutely right. If Chauvin and friends don’t get what they deserve at trial, buildings are going to burn. Your comments here explain not only why it will happen, but also why it is justifiable.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

I sure hate when white cops pull up on a toddler's party. I wonder why the media won't give physical descriptions. We KNOW they're white cops. Hey, do you guys think Al Sharpton will speak?

2 Dead, 3 Injured in Shooting at Child's Birthday Party in Vallejo

Two women died and three other people, including a 10-year-old child, were wounded Tuesday night in a shooting at a toddler’s birthday party in Vallejo, according to police.

www.nbcbayarea.com

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

She’s absolutely right. If Chauvin and friends don’t get what they deserve at trial, buildings are going to burn. Your comments here explain not only why it will happen, but also why it is justifiable.

No, she isn't right, she's a piece of shit. And when they riot this time, I hope the bullets aren't made of rubber.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Damn... another day of those white cops out recklessly shooting innocent people... this time in Chicago. What a bunch of racists. We need to defund them right now! Cops are the problem, I tell you! Hey, you guys think Al Sharpton will speak? Will LeBron pay for some funerals? Will Kanye pay for some college scholarships?

18 murders in 24 hours: Inside the most violent day in 60 years in Chicago

‘We’ve never seen anything like it at all,’ said Max Kapustin, the senior research director at the University of Chicago Crime Lab.

chicago.suntimes.com

 

[dad4]

She’s absolutely right. If Chauvin and friends don’t get what they deserve at trial, buildings are going to burn. Your comments here explain exactly not only why it will happen, but also why it is justifiable.

So, if a guilty man goes free, it is justified to take the life and property of completely unrelated innocent men?

You’ve gone off the deep end. I suspect old Cheeto-head has poisoned your soul. You need to get it back and restore it to good health.

 

[SoccerFan4Life]

Do you see white people protesting white deaths of any kind? Ever? No, you don't. No other race has to blame someone else for their problems. Just 1.

White people do protest for very very important things as well "PETA protest, Climate control, Save the ocean, Occupy Wall Street. Again extremely important stuff and absolutely more important than police brutality where their lives are at risk.

And if they don't protest, white folks just leverage lawsuits.

 

[MicPaPa]

Nothing is “free”, it comes with a cost. Whether social, economic or psychological, there is always a price to be paid.

LOL...back yet again.

 

[Dof3]

I agree with everything you have said above. One can take a stand against looters and violent protestors without being a racist. We all should be against looters and violent protestors. That's black and white. It's ok to support the "open up CA" without being a racist. We should all support people's right to protest to open up - regardless of our view points- because it's an exercise of the 1st amendment. I fully support opening up with social distancing and required face masks - like two months ago. It's ok not to have a view point until you gather more information or simply not have an opinion at all after you gather all the information if you think it's too gray.

I'm sure there will be people who say extreme things and lump things together incorrectly, but don't let those people define your morality and obligations as citizens of this great nation.

There's no room for police brutality. It's wrong no matter how you slice it. It's not ok for 3 police officers to help murder someone because they are just following orders. I don't allow my children to use the excuse that they did it because their peers did too or someone with authority told them it's ok. The buck stops with you kid. I raised you to think on your own and I expect you to. I will not stoop so low as to think that the majority of the police force do not have moral values and are comfortable just following orders to allow murder of it's own citizens like Nazi Germany.

It's not ok to use your police powers to cover up a killing of a human being because he's your friend or peer. I respect most of our police force and I give them leniency and perk to give free get out of jail cards to family and friends for small things, like speeding or vandalism. However, covering up a murder of an innocent jogger amounts to aiding and abetting in a murder. If any common citizen were to cover up a murder crime for family and friends, we would be inside a court defending ourselves against aiding and abetting in a murder case. This is not a gray area.

I do agree that in today's society, we have too many people on the far left and right, who deem too many things as black and white issues. Police brutality using excessive force is is black and white. Now - some people go to the extreme and look at cases where there's not excessive force or where force IS necessary but resulted in a death, and lump it in incorrectly. Don't let those people make you think that being against police brutality is wrong or is a gray issue. They are wrong for lumping it together. An officer, defending himself against lethal violence must use lethal force if necessary and at times s/he might make mistakes and it's ok. An officer, not under real or reasonably perceived lethal threat or great bodily injury, should NEVER be allowed to use physical threat.

Don't confuse the gray areas with the black and white issues. Don't use the gray areas as an excuse not to stand up for the black and white issues.

JK rowlings didn't say anything wrong. Aziz Ansari should never have been added to the MeToo movement. Does that mean we should not be against discrimination or rape? NO - it's still wrong to discriminate or rape.

Kneeling .... name another circumstance in which we ever think kneeling is treasonous and evil? It's an act of submission used for God and your spouse. (don't go there, think proposal)

Somehow, someone, convinced a large group of people and myself for a while, that it's an insult to our flag. What's the logic and reason behind defining kneeling before our flag as treasonous? drop all your annoyance with KAP and RAP. Think about the act itself. It's not burning the flag or cutting it up. It's not vandalizing it with curse words or nazi symbols. It is an act of submission to our great flag. It was an act, which was thoroughly thought out in conjunction with a fellow military peer in order to show respect to the flag and the military.

Don't use the gray areas as an excuse not to stand up for the black and white issues. Police brutality is wrong. Covering up a murder is wrong. Discrimination is wrong. Not holding yourself accountable and your peers accountable is wrong.

Wholeheartedly agree across the board. Thank you for taking the time. Police brutality is wrong. Covering up a murder is wrong. Discrimination is wrong. Not holding yourself accountable and your peers accountable is wrong.

But the cancel culture running wild in America is not OK. This has moved beyond someone being fired for making a racist statement or discriminating against a protected class and is now moved into savagery over disagreeing with any part of someone else's narrative regardless of why. Agree or I unleash the twitter mob. I don't think that is going to be an effective approach over the long term.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

2016 Homicide numbers from the FBI database. 2,870 black murders. 2,570 by other blacks. 90%. Yeah... cops are the problem.

Race of offender​

Race of victim

Total

White

Black/African Amer.

Other

Unknown

White

3,449

2,854

533

40

72

Black/African Amer.

2,870

243

2,570

17

40

Other race

221

56

37

123

5

Unknown race

86

43

16

4

23

 

[EOTL]

Do you see white people protesting white deaths of any kind? Ever? No, you don't. No other race has to blame someone else for their problems. Just 1.

Most often I see white cops making up reasons to murder black people. But not infrequently we see things like white people storming a state capitol because they can’t get a haircut; or carrying tiki torches in Charlottesville to protest black people, well, being alive at all; or mocking the death of a black person to show solidarity with racist cops. Or an entire police department quitting to show support for colleagues who beat up old men who dare to attend a protest against racism. You know, stuff that’s way more important than the systematic persecution of an entire racial demographic.

We also see white folk blaming minorities for pretty much everything all the time. Go read all of your posts, for example. Also take a good look at the wall, or fence, or whatever you call that thing on the border. Since it doesn’t work, it is nothing more than a monument for the purpose of blaming brown people for your problems. There’s also the constant whining about how Asians took all the great manufacturing jobs. Shoot, we’ve even got gringos here going apes**t just because HBO tells people - gasp - that Gone With the Wind does not accurately portray life in the South at the time. We’ve got whiny p**sy gringos crying like babies every time a monument for a treasonous racist traitor to our country gets pulled down. Even today, our whiny orange (but technicaly caucasian) bunker boy spent most of his day complaining how unfair it is to name our military bases after heroes instead if treasonous racist traitors. There is literally nothing too petty or stupid for a white person to protest about.

 

[Dof3]

Most often I see white cops making up reasons to murder black people. But not infrequently we see things like white people storming a state capitol because they can’t get a haircut; or carrying tiki torches in Charlottesville to protest black people, well, being alive at all; or mocking the death of a black person to show solidarity with racist cops. Or an entire police department quitting to show support for colleagues who beat up old men who dare to attend a protest against racism. You know, stuff that’s way more important than the systematic persecution of an entire racial demographic.

We also see white folk blaming minorities for pretty much everything all the time. Go read all of your posts, for example. Also take a good look at the wall, or fence, or whatever you call that thing on the border. Since it doesn’t work, it is nothing more than a monument for the purpose of blaming brown people for your problems. There’s also the constant whining about how Asians took all the great manufacturing jobs. Shoot, we’ve even got gringos here going apes**t just because HBO tells people - gasp - that Gone With the Wind does not accurately portray life in the South at the time. We’ve got whiny p**sy gringos crying like babies every time a monument for a treasonous racist traitor to our country gets pulled down. Even today, our whiny orange (but technicaly caucasian) bunker boy spent most of his day complaining how unfair it is to name our military bases after heroes instead if treasonous racist traitors. There is literally nothing too petty or stupid for a white person to protest about.

Do you not get that you are just the better spoken opposite side of The Outlaw coin? That many would find your language sexist and offensive? That your willful misrepresentation of what others say undermines whatever point you might otherwise make? I suppose setting straw men afire reaffirms for you how smart you are, but it doesn't change minds or even get people to think. Keep shouting. Maybe do it while watching yourself in a mirror...then you can be unquestionably right and handsome all at the same time. But that's enough for me. You get the last word and then the block button.

 

[Emma]

Wholeheartedly agree across the board. Thank you for taking the time. Police brutality is wrong. Covering up a murder is wrong. Discrimination is wrong. Not holding yourself accountable and your peers accountable is wrong.

But the cancel culture running wild in America is not OK. This has moved beyond someone being fired for making a racist statement or discriminating against a protected class and is now moved into savagery over disagreeing with any part of someone else's narrative regardless of why. Agree or I unleash the twitter mob. I don't think that is going to be an effective approach over the long term.

I agree with you about the cancel culture. Someone does it properly and then someone else takes it to the extreme next level. Most cancels should be conversations allowing further details and explanations.

Thanks for taking your time to read all that

 

[EOTL]

So, if a guilty man goes free, it is justified to take the life and property of completely unrelated innocent men?

You’ve gone off the deep end. I suspect old Cheeto-head has poisoned your soul. You need to get it back and restore it to good health.

Well, yes it is. You and your buddy don’t have a problem with collateral damage when it’s an innocent black woman sleeping in her bed. If a bunch of Targets and liquor stores burning to the ground is the price of freedom, that’s a small (and usually insured) price to pay. Maybe a few innocent people also need to die to make sure you and the police finally get the point.