No Soccer - Bad / No School - Catastrophic!

NorcalsoccerYNWA said:
Teachers absolutely don't get paid during the summer. Most take their 45k (my wife's salary) and spread it over 12 months as teachers. They might get a paycheck over summer, but they aren't "paid" for summer work. They do spend the summer in meetings, lesson planning for the season, etc unpaid. My wife also spent a bunch of her paycheck on school supplies, snacks to reward her class, bought a student a pair of shoes last year (didn't own shoes that fit) and other such things. I think we need to cherish our teachers and because some parents don't want to deal with their kid during the day, they should realize many teachers come home to family members that may be high risk. My wife teaches over 100 kids a day in middle school and if 1 kid tests positive for COVID, you are now putting every kid and their families at risk. Many of us are privilidged enough to be able to be home with our kids during the day, but there's many families in this state that will have a much tougher time with this. For those families who depend on school while both parents or single parents work low paid jobs with a lot of hours, they are in a huge bind for this fall. Trying to now afford daycare is going to be a huge issue in our state. Let's bond together in these times, support our teachers and we will all move on. If we are really worried that teachers will be paid for still continuing to teach students online, we have bigger issues. I'm sure teachers will gladly swap salaries or take your donations to pay for classroom equipment or other resources they pay for out of their pocket.
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Is that part time? What state? All my friends make over $90,000-$100,000 a year. They do have a Masters so i think that helps.
 
Soccerfan2 said:
Charter school teachers are generally the ones who couldn’t get hired by the nearby public schools. They almost always make less.
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The young talented ones get passed up in the school districts, that is true. My son's first Head Master told all the parents he has thousands resumes and he can sort through the best of best. School district loses big time because it;s politics as usual. You teachers are so funny....lol!!! He picked up some of the top top talent years ago and their still there.....lol! He can fire bad teachers that all the kids said were horrible because?
 
Soccerfan2 said:
No, they don’t. Explore that fully and you will see. Do you have experience with a charter or as an educator or do you have any knowledge in this area?
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Yes, in NYC quite some time ago. I recall it being fairly similar to this more recent Annual State Assessment:

Charter schools in New York City have consistently outperformed their district school counterparts on an annual basis. Most importantly, those results come in communities where districts schools struggle with combating the achievement gap. For example, in the 2017 annual New York State assessments: 53% of New York City charter school students were proficient in English Language Arts (ELA), compared with 38% of NYC district students. In math, 48% of charter students were proficient; 41% of district students were proficient. Among African-Americans: 52% of charter students could do math at grade level, only 20% of district students were proficient. For ELA: 49% of African-American charter students were proficient; 29% of district students were proficient. Among Hispanic students: 48% of charter students were proficient in math; 25% of Hispanic district school students were proficient in math. And in ELA: 45% of Hispanic charter school students could read at grade level; while 30% of Hispanic district students were proficient.
 
Hearing rumors from folks in admin and on my twitter network that the state dept of education may shutter all Cali schools this fall (including school districts that want to have in person instruction and including private schools). Also hearing rules about these joint cooperatives (kids from multiple families getting together to home school) will be cracked down upon since they violate stay at home orders. Nothings been decided and discussions with state health and the governor are supposedly still going on but hearing it’s a possibility. One rationale besides the numbers and teachers union is equity (they can’t have rich suburbs do different than the inner city).
 
Grace T. said:
Hearing rumors from folks in admin and on my twitter network that the state dept of education may shutter all Cali schools this fall (including school districts that want to have in person instruction and including private schools). Also hearing rules about these joint cooperatives (kids from multiple families getting together to home school) will be cracked down upon since they violate stay at home orders. Nothings been decided and discussions with state health and the governor are supposedly still going on but hearing it’s a possibility. One rationale besides the numbers and teachers union is equity (they can’t have rich suburbs do different than the inner city).
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Rumor is the same rumor I heard. My connection is real and this is real folks. The demands are clear. 1) No in class teaching until 14 days of know knew cases of Corona. Teachers lives are at stake they say and they cant and wont teach until the following happens. 2) No more charter schools. 3) Defund the police. They no what's best for your child. They will teach and you will shut up!!!
 
Ellejustus said:
Rumor is the same rumor I heard. My connection is real and this is real folks. The demands are clear. 1) No in class teaching until 14 days of know knew cases of Corona. Teachers lives are at stake they say and they cant and wont teach until the following happens. 2) No more charter schools. 3) Defund the police. They no what's best for your child. They will teach and you will shut up!!!
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What a liberal blessing coronavirus has been. They’ll get rid of Trump, defund police, and get rid of charter schools which has always been a thorn on their side.
 
I just have to say this. Not all teachers are like this so dont take it personal if this doesn't apply to you. I new when I came here this place had lot's of teachers and lawyers. Some teachers and Admin people are control freaks, SOB, OCD, mean, intimidating, harsh, insensitive, vindictive, super political, abusive and retaliate on kids who speak up and have opinion. Teacher is always right and kid is wrong.
 
Soccerfan2 said:
No, they don’t. Explore that fully and you will see. Do you have experience with a charter or as an educator or do you have any knowledge in this area?
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great question. Lets ask someone with actual experience. Ask the parents and kids of charter schools why they don't go back to the school the left.
 
MSK357 said:
My kids are in a more privileged school that racist democrat leaders like Joe Biden want to keep segregated from people of color. From some of the complaints i hear, some of them do need to go though.
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Thank you for honestly responding with your full knowledge of this topic.
 
espola said:
Thank you for honestly responding with your full knowledge of this topic.
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No Problem, but dont just take my word for it, ask the overwhelming people of color in inner cities that choose charter schools over their failing zoned regular schools.
 
espola said:
Thank you for honestly responding with your full knowledge of this topic.
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If you have any heart in this topic at all and not just trying to be a troll, i seriously challenge you in asking the parents and kids why they choose to go to a charter school as opposed to a local regular public school in their zone. If there is truely no difference in test scores or quality, why go through the trouble to leave and most of the time travel to a charter school? I dont think you know anyone that actually has kids in a charter school. Everyone that i know that has a kid in a charter school is very grateful they exist and are happy with their choice compared to the alternative. These are liberal families to by the way.
 
EOTL said:
neatoday.org

Racial Isolation of Charter School Students Exacerbating Resegregation | NEA

Charter schools are among the most segregated in the nation. Experts say the justifications offered by many charter leaders are troubling and undermine the promise of equal opportunity for every student.
neatoday.org neatoday.org
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This is an instance of "You are getting affirmation for the viewpoint that you already have". It's like watching Fox News if you are Republican. NEA has a vested interest in disparaging charter schools. If you want actual facts, seek out the opposition's articles as well as NEA and the truth is somewhere in the middle.
 
MSK357 said:
If you have any heart in this topic at all and not just trying to be a troll, i seriously challenge you in asking the parents and kids why they choose to go to a charter school as opposed to a local regular public school in their zone. If there is truely no difference in test scores or quality, why go through the trouble to leave and most of the time travel to a charter school? I dont think you know anyone that actually has kids in a charter school. Everyone that i know that has a kid in a charter school is very grateful they exist and are happy with their choice compared to the alternative. These are liberal families to by the way.
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I believe you truly believe this, but your past posts on their forum lead me to not believe it for myself.
 
MicPaPa said:
Weren't you recently posting on another thread crying about all the off topic threads and disparaging posters for partaking in other than soccer discussions? Yet here you are partaking.
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I respond to, but I do not initiate, offtopic posts in soccer-related threads. In case you haven't noticed, this is not a soccer-related thread and was not intended by the original poster to be one.
 
EOTL said:
neatoday.org

Racial Isolation of Charter School Students Exacerbating Resegregation | NEA

Charter schools are among the most segregated in the nation. Experts say the justifications offered by many charter leaders are troubling and undermine the promise of equal opportunity for every student.
neatoday.org neatoday.org
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That is funny. Because when my kids go play for their HS charter school vs others in the poorer areas, those teams are made up of mainly minorities. And those kids are getting a top notch education. They get the same curriculum my kids do.

That curriculum is far more challenging vs the local public schools.

These charter schools are allowing people a chance to get out of the crappy local public schools and get a real education.
 
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