No Soccer - Bad / No School - Catastrophic!

You know how much you are getting paid each year, right? When I taught, they spread out that salary over the whole year - including the summer. Would you prefer that or do you prefer having the "summer" money up front? Sounds like your union was better than mine.
Things seem to be a little for flexible now. Spread it out over the year, good for people who don't know how to save (me in the beginning :)) , save on your own, or do a summer saver account. You have to be really disciplined being paid once a month and not touching what you put away for summer. It really depends on the individual.
 
I Wonder how many of those LAUSD folks thank an essential business cashier or store employee making not much more than minimum wage to face hundreds of people daily for the benefit of all and display the grit, heart and spine to go to work everyday for others. What a concept.
Yes they are brave, thank goodness they are protected by a plastic shield plus their own protective masks, gloves and time after each customer to sanitize. One person at a time.
 
Bozo, it's called return my taxes so I can choose....you know, like taxpayer funded choice...or it's my kid, my taxes, my choice! You know that, but you clowns play the selective choice game.

“Your” taxes paid for public school opportunity. That you choose not to utilize that benefit is your problem. Regardless, that money isn’t yours. It is the government’s. And I can assure you that my taxes and those of like minded Californians would greatly outweigh the financial power of you and your like-minded friends. I’d greatly enjoy being able to make a la carte decisions with my tax dollars. You wouldn’t have a street in front of your house, the UC or CSU school subsidy if your kids end up there, police of fire protection, etc. I’d just keep all that for myself and the overwhelming number of libs who pay for all that stuff.
 
This is an instance of "You are getting affirmation for the viewpoint that you already have". It's like watching Fox News if you are Republican. NEA has a vested interest in disparaging charter schools. If you want actual facts, seek out the opposition's articles as well as NEA and the truth is somewhere in the middle.
From my own experience, parents who have tried charter schools then come back and have said the academics just weren't there. They certainly have more flexibility and little accountability. That isn't for everyone.
 
In other words, if you want to teach something minor, like soccer, you put them with a subject matter expert and group by effort and ability.

If you want to teach something important, like math or writing, you put them with a generalist and group them at random.

I agree they are dissimilar, but I think you have them backwards.

Your daughter playing soccer does not have any meaningful negative impact on anyone else. Tax dollars don’t pay for your kid’s youth soccer club, nor does it take away dollars used to educate others.
 
Yes they are brave, thank goodness they are protected by a plastic shield plus their own protective masks, gloves and time after each customer to sanitize. One person at a time.
So why not make teacher to be present in a classroom behind Plexiglas, wearing a mask or a hazmat suit, if this makes them feel safer? They don't have to be touching students or be in close contact with them.
 
Maybe parents of studious kids don’t want their kid in a class with some slacker who won’t do the work?

It isn’t segregation by color. It‘s segregation by ability and effort.
Kind of like what an adult has to put up with at work. It definitely is frustrating. But at least as an adult, the employee can be fired.
 
So why not make teacher to be present in a classroom behind Plexiglas, wearing a mask or a hazmat suit, if this makes them feel safer? They don't have to be touching students or be in close contact with them.
The difference is with young children they need help and yes you do need to be close to them ,they frequently don't understand the problem they are having to even verbalize it. Also, you are in a room with many students not just one at a time. Hey, behind a plastic shield one student at a time, maybe 20 minutes with that student, move them out, sanitize, next, so on and so on, that might work. Info only, in study after study, the dirtiest surface people can encounter is not a door knob, a phone, a counter, a faucet, it is desks of students.
 
Charters dont want PG kids either.

Who wants to pay for an Algebra teacher for two third graders?
Just so we are clear, Charter schools are public schools as well. The difference is you can shut down a Charter school a lot easier and fire a bad teacher a lot easier. Charter schools are required by law to take in all kids with special needs. If they lie and say that dont have space or resources they can be reported and shut down. the fact that espola posted an article that said only 8% of charter schools were shut down says a lot about the quality of charter schools. The same article said charter schools had an advantage by bringing up the average quality of charter schools because public schools cant be shut down the same way. Also note he posted that article not in support of charter schools.
 
Kind of like what an adult has to put up with at work. It definitely is frustrating. But at least as an adult, the employee can be fired.
Adults at work are totally segregated by ability and effort. At a tech company, you can go weeks and never have a work conversation with someone who doesn’t have at least one STEM degree.
 
So why not make teacher to be present in a classroom behind Plexiglas, wearing a mask or a hazmat suit, if this makes them feel safer? They don't have to be touching students or be in close contact with them.
Hey, here's another thought, you might actually be on to something. Let's surround each student desk, all sides, with plexiglass. LAUSD has over 600,000 students. I wonder how quickly they can do that. Capo only has about 53,000 students so maybe we could get that done in the next 30 days. I would go for that plus have students wear masks and gloves when using the bathroom, recess or leaving the room for any reason. Also, hire all the laid off nurses so we could have a full time nurse at every school. Our school had six hundred students so the nurse would be pretty busy.
 
You have just identified the problem with charter schools more succinctly than I ever could. Privileged people systematically denying opportunity to disadvantaged people they’ve labeled in advance as slackers who won’t do the work when the reality is: (1) many of them will but for the lack of opportunity that they have ever had; and (2) it’s easier to not give a s**t about anyone else. Charter schools often make things worse by turning limited opportunity for those in disadvantaged groups to no opportunity. Many of the “best” systematically exclude anyone who isn’t already easy, taking the already limited funds available at the schools where they’re stuck, and leaving them surrounded by an even higher percentage of disadvantaged kids, which only exacerbates the lack of systematic opportunity for disadvantaged groups. Pointing to 10 minorities who benefited from charter schools who usually weren’t particularly disadvantaged to begin with and ignoring the many others whose situations were made worse because of it is, well, the American Way to pretend inequality isn’t the problem it is.

And yes, it is segregation by color when this happens. You call it “ability and effort”, but it’s just code for “opportunity.” The mere fact that a charter school won’t even bother with those who need help the most, or even those who just need a slight boost in that direction, is the problem, and that is very racial even if not explicitly stated in your charter school’s charter.

I get that the “American Way” is a ridiculously selfish “what is best for me right now” without regard for others, society at large, or even the long term implications for your own children, no matter how petty or undisruptive of your life. Wearing a mask is an annoyance, so our kids get no team sports or school. Supporting protection of confederate monuments that people didn’t even know existed until someone tore them down, or at least their ”lawful” removal by local governments that are often blatantly racist, results in less than civil disobedience. Wanting your kid surrounded only by the “right kind” of kids to make their lives easy now is harmful when done in a large scale as is the case here. When they’re adults, your kids get to deal with the financial and social consequences of societal decisions that are exacerbating inequality in the U.S.
Sorry but that just isnt true. Charter schools are required by law to take any kid that applies as long as there is room. If they lie and say there is no room, lie and say they dont have resources when they do, they can be shut down. what you posted are excuses why charter schools outperform public schools that squander their resources because you have superintendents making $400k+. What we need is more charter schools to replace the bad failing schools that are protected by unions. Its no wonder the greedy public school system with their unions can't spare $2,800 of the $12,000 it takes to educate a child. They want to keep every penny even if its to a failing school districts where it barely trickles down to students.
 
I will probably get flamed for this but since when did parents become assholes for wanting the best for their kids? Both my children are Charter school students-We chose this path because we didn't want to deal with some of the BS going on in the public school that was detracting from class time. My youngest went through cancer treatment for several years, the smaller classes and more personalized instruction was tantamount to his success. Not all Charter schools are racist, cesspools-JFC!
 
So why not make teacher to be present in a classroom behind Plexiglas, wearing a mask or a hazmat suit, if this makes them feel safer? They don't have to be touching students or be in close contact with them.
They are. It’s usually referred to as Zoom or Google Classroom.
 
I will probably get flamed for this but since when did parents become assholes for wanting the best for their kids? Both my children are Charter school students-We chose this path because we didn't want to deal with some of the BS going on in the public school that was detracting from class time. My youngest went through cancer treatment for several years, the smaller classes and more personalized instruction was tantamount to his success. Not all Charter schools are racist, cesspools-JFC!
Very true. However, I think the point they are making is that the “token success stories” like yours and mine are the exception and not the rule.
 
They are. It’s usually referred to as Zoom or Google Classroom.
Sorry but school unions are saying thats not possible. Their excuse is the following: Not every student has a computer, Not all districts can afford to give a kid a laptop to use, Not every student has great internet connection, Not every teacher has great internet connection, What about teachers with kids? they cant teach over zoom while their kids need to be attended to (or pet), If everyone doesnt have the same access then no one will because they want to be equitable which means 100% online learning without zoom or live instruction. It will be something like khan academy and checking in on emails.
 
Very true. However, I think the point they are making is that the “token success stories” like yours and mine are the exception and not the rule.
They seem like the rule minus the 8% of charter schools that shut down, while failing public schools remain open.
 
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