New Research on Covid Transmission

Just take a cruise thru Venice, Downtown, Sherman Oaks and check out the condition the city is in, it is scary
 
The issue is people are using emotion vs looking at the data. A lot on this board refuse to look at the data.

Data: 180,000 dead so far and still tracking about 400,000 over 12 months.

Not Data: Literally every word from Dr. Aldous’s whiny op-ed commentary, whoever the f**k she is. Zero. Zippo. Zilch. All emotion.

I wonder where she got the “people are sayin’” garbage rhetorical technique from?
 
Yep, testing, I get it and don't disagree. Again, bureaucrats will mumble and stumble their way to inaction, paralyzed by analysis and listening to ridiculous requests from unions that demonstrate their complete lack of interest in becoming part of the solution. Have fun in California getting anything done until post election and beyond. It's a sad state of affairs in CA and the trend is accelerating exponentially. Literally and figuratively burning down.
That's funny. California has fires every year. This year is no different. And as for "figuratively" burning down, what does that mean? The testing issue is entirely a national issue...anybody knows how the USA tackles disease and epidemics...at the national level.
 
Happy said "It's like watching a train wreck - and if it goes on for a length of time, the impact is going to very sad to see.

Charter is on fire and Private schools are turning away folks. I know a big money guy who never makes mistakes with his money and he's going to be starting a new kind of school. Were meeting tomorrow for cocktails. I might invest in this. I promised not to share but you would want your kid in this program from the sounds of it.....

This sounds like a great opportunity. Is your friend a Nigerian prince by chance?
 
"someone take responsibility" exactly! It's F'n August, you're right! Unbeleivable isn't it? Who calls the shot at your house? I know my wife and I call the shots in mine, and we are responsible for ALL of the tough decisions we make. You are finger pointing at everybody but the parent in charge. You don't have the balls to call out the person who is supposed to be leading this crap. That you can't do that is so F'n weak and disappointing its pathetic.

"the trend is accelerating exponentially. Literally and figuratively burning down." Yeah, I call this doomsday alarmist Bull Shit. Who's the scaredy cat??

Dude, you crack me up but I'll play along.

Quite the silly comparison and how it's even pertinent to this discussion is beyond me - but have at it. Not having balls to call someone out has nothing to do with anything and again gets nothing done. Sounds like you are comfortable with bureaucracy. In my house (to use your comparison, which is still silly by the way), we get stuff done - wife, kids, dog, leopard geckos, the whole shebang. No reason to waste time bitching and moaning about how the bad actors are keeping us from doing what we need to do.

I don't know where you think my balls went, looked down and they were there. Who is this person you want me to call out? If you think I am a fan of the federal government in my life, you are sorely mistaken. To further politicize something that has been so overly politicized is beyond me. Leave it up to people like you to pump your fist in anger and waste energy on the blame game (goes for both sides by the way).


And by the way, certainly not scared and it's silly to bring it up. It's called observation, opinion, and choice - gotta love the ol constitution. Don't worry, I'll still come visit, CA has great weather most of the year and is a fantastic vacation destination. What I am scared of is ideology spreading eastward. If you call me a scaredy cat in that regard, then we are in agreement.
 
That's funny. California has fires every year. This year is no different. And as for "figuratively" burning down, what does that mean? The testing issue is entirely a national issue...anybody knows how the USA tackles disease and epidemics...at the national level.
You are right, testing is a national issue, but there are other issues that can be handled, planned at the local level.
 
Data: 180,000 dead so far and still tracking about 400,000 over 12 months.

Not Data: Literally every word from Dr. Aldous’s whiny op-ed commentary, whoever the f**k she is. Zero. Zippo. Zilch. All emotion.

I wonder where she got the “people are sayin’” garbage rhetorical technique from?
Grim statistic but From a Macro level it equals about 0.001% of the population IF we hit the 400k mark you speak of. Which is still below Cancer and Heart Disease.

My point isn’t that C19 is fake or that we shouldn’t take precautions, it is simply perspective.
 
This sounds like a great opportunity. Is your friend a Nigerian prince by chance?
No, but my wife's grandma got an email from someone claiming to have inherited millions from Nigeria. The hang up was the guy needed someone from the USA and their bank account info to get their % of the loot. She called me for advice and I told her it was all one big hoax. It was a close one. He's a black American with some money and he's super super smart. Does not jump into anything without a 99% chance of success. All that means ETOL, he doesnt piss his money away. I'll let you know how it goes :)
 
Yep, testing, I get it and don't disagree. Again, bureaucrats will mumble and stumble their way to inaction, paralyzed by analysis and listening to ridiculous requests from unions that demonstrate their complete lack of interest in becoming part of the solution. Have fun in California getting anything done until post election and beyond. It's a sad state of affairs in CA and the trend is accelerating exponentially. Literally and figuratively burning down.

What triggered that rant?
 
Grim statistic but From a Macro level it equals about 0.001% of the population IF we hit the 400k mark you speak of. Which is still below Cancer and Heart Disease.

My point isn’t that C19 is fake or that we shouldn’t take precautions, it is simply perspective.

Grim statistic, but whatevs. What’s 400k more dead people, even when it’s preventable? It’s the price they must pay so I can go to a bar and live vicariously through my daughter.
 
Grim statistic, but whatevs. What’s 400k more dead people, even when it’s preventable? It’s the price they must pay so I can go to a bar and live vicariously through my daughter.
Spin it how you’d like, but it really isn’t preventable. Curbable likely, but not preventable. If it was preventable, we would not have any deaths from the seasonal flu.

I’m more focused on getting people back to work and some semblance of normalcy for my kids. I realize that doesn’t affect you but it does MILLIONS of others.

Have a day!
 
Spin it how you’d like, but it really isn’t preventable. Curbable likely, but not preventable. If it was preventable, we would not have any deaths from the seasonal flu.

I’m more focused on getting people back to work and some semblance of normalcy for my kids. I realize that doesn’t affect you but it does MILLIONS of others.

Have a day!
Why not preventable? CO and NM are doing much better than AZ and TX. SD and SJ are doing better than OC and LA. Germany handled this better than France or Italy.

This isn't just fate. Our actions matter. Right now, by our actions, we are collectively choosing whether we end up with 200,000 deaths or 400,000 deaths.
 
More evidence that kids likely aren't super spreaders.

Median age 5 years. More evidence that elementary age kids, with precautions, are not major spreaders.

Still good news. Just dont use to justify your teenager's pool party.
 
Again, bureaucrats will mumble and stumble their way to inaction, paralyzed by analysis and listening to ridiculous requests from unions that demonstrate their complete lack of interest in becoming part of the solution. Have fun in California getting anything done until post election and beyond.

Ah, who started the blame game?? "bureaucrats, unions, and post election." Gee, I wonder who you're blaming? So if you're going to go down the blame game route, grow a pair, and blame the person ultimately responsible. Sounds like you are pumping your fist in anger and wasting energy.

Not having balls to call someone out has nothing to do with anything and again gets nothing done. Sounds like you are comfortable with bureaucracy. In my house (to use your comparison, which is still silly by the way), we get stuff done - wife, kids, dog, leopard geckos, the whole shebang. No reason to waste time bitching and moaning about how the bad actors are keeping us from doing what we need to do.

This is exactly why I am calling you a pussy. You can't give a straight answer to a straight question. You dodge and weave ONLY so you don't have to OWN it and blame the person that needs to be blamed. You have to bring in your dogs, geckos, and kids to dodge a question? Grow a pair brother, grow a pair.
 
Just take a cruise thru Venice, Downtown, Sherman Oaks and check out the condition the city is in, it is scary

I'm assuming you're referring to the homeless issue. The homeless issue has been around forever, especially in the big cities. Are there more homeless in Southern California now than ever before? Yes.

Kicker, I have lunch about once a week at the Fisherman's Outlet on 5th and Central, a hard core homeless area. I grew up in Boyle Heights, walking distance to Downtown (I walked to a couple Laker's parades in the 80's). My dad attended AA meetings in skid row and I went to a few Al-Anon meetings there in the late 70's. I used to accompany my dad all over downtown to the garment district, jewelry district, and electronics district. I've seen homeless my entire life. The homeless that I see Downtown now is about triple what I remember seeing back in the 70's-90's.

But ask me if I spend one mili-second losing sleep over the homeless issue? The honest answer is I don't. I may be more immune than others, but it doesn't phase me one bit. Now, when I see it, it's not aesthetically pleasing, but as soon as I'm passed it, it is completely gone from my mind. I would bet the house that that is the way it is for everybody on this forum. None of us stay awake at night thinking, god that was a great goal my little Suzy scored, but man, that homeless problem has me worried.

So when people talk about the homeless, do they really give a shit about it, or is it just politics? Do we just point it out to talk smack about the opposing party or not? I think you know my answer.
 
Ah, who started the blame game?? "bureaucrats, unions, and post election." Gee, I wonder who you're blaming? So if you're going to go down the blame game route, grow a pair, and blame the person ultimately responsible. Sounds like you are pumping your fist in anger and wasting energy.



This is exactly why I am calling you a pussy. You can't give a straight answer to a straight question. You dodge and weave ONLY so you don't have to OWN it and blame the person that needs to be blamed. You have to bring in your dogs, geckos, and kids to dodge a question? Grow a pair brother, grow a pair.

Who is it that you hate specifically? And who is it that you blame specifically? What am I supposed to own? You should have an understanding by now where my position lies. If your idea of getting things done means more divisive rhetoric between factions, then so be it.

I don't know why body parts are even part of this discussion but if it makes you feel like you have a bigger pair of bolas, then so be it, you are entitled to that feeling. Me blaming someone else doesn't make me feel better - do something about it - go vote, set up a petition, talk to the school district, volunteer.

And it's one dog, but two geckos. Not multiple dogs.
 
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