How’s the 2024-2025 season going?

[Carlsbad7]

(City GA would be ranked 10 ahead of Pats fwiw)

While this is true from the rankings app perspective. City SC would be higher if they had more local games against highly ranked clubs. When you consistently play highly ranked teams you get in a rhythm + understanding about what it takes to play at that level. City only gets to play big GA clubs like Tophat 2x a year. Other than that they play local clubs who aren't ranked as highly.

Options to get around this are friendlies or playing against boys teams. But that involves time and effort. FWIW City does play friendlies against Socal ECNL clubs and tends to do fairly well but these aren't recorded in the ranking app + parents don't discuss very much because both groups like the games and want them to continue.

 

[Culer]

Agreed also...here is the updated list...I think the top 3 are clear, spots 5 to 10 are really close...LAFC got smashed this weekend and have a lot of coach changes, Slammers and Breakers tied and Beach and Blues tied too....the closing weeks of the season will tell the final tale...and then there is tryout madness just around the corner

1.)KOGE
2.)SURF
3.)LEGENDS
4.)BEACH
5.)LAFC
6.)SLAMMERS
7.)BREAKERS
8.)BLUES
9.)PATS
10.)HEAT

Interesting scenarios from 5-8.

5. Pats (21 points): 3 games left vs SD Surf, Legends and Legends SD: My guess is max 3 points (W1-L2-D0). Total 24 points.
6. LAFC (22 points): 2 games left vs Blues and Breakers: My guess is max 3 points (W1-L1-D0). Total 25 points.
7. Blues (20points): 3 games left vs LAFC, Rebels and Heat Surf: My guess is max 4 points (W1-L1-D1): Total 24 points.
8. Heat Surf (19 points): 3 games left vs Legends SD, Blues and Phoenix: My guess is max 4 points (W1-L0-D1). Total 24 points.
9. Slammers (19 points): 2 games left vs Sporting and Legends: My guess is max 3 points (W1-L1-D0): Total 22 points.
10. Rebels (16 points): 4 games left vs Beach, Legends, Blues and SD Surf: My guess is 0 points (W0-L0-D0): Total 16 points.
11. Breakers (17 points): 3 games left vs Legends SD, LAFC and Arizona Arsenal: My guess is 6 points (W2-L1-D0): Total 23 points.

Playoffs:
1. HBK
2. Surf
3. Legends
4. Beach
5. LAFC
6. Blues
7. Pats
8. Heat Surf
9. Breakers
10. Slammers
11. Rebels

Just my humble opinion...

 

[TeamDadJokes]

Interesting scenarios from 5-8.

5. Pats (21 points): 3 games left vs SD Surf, Legends and Legends SD: My guess is max 3 points (W1-L2-D0). Total 24 points.
6. LAFC (22 points): 2 games left vs Blues and Breakers: My guess is max 3 points (W1-L1-D0). Total 25 points.
7. Blues (20points): 3 games left vs LAFC, Rebels and Heat Surf: My guess is max 4 points (W1-L1-D1): Total 24 points.
8. Heat Surf (19 points): 3 games left vs Legends SD, Blues and Phoenix: My guess is max 4 points (W1-L0-D1). Total 24 points.
9. Slammers (19 points): 2 games left vs Sporting and Legends: My guess is max 3 points (W1-L1-D0): Total 22 points.
10. Rebels (16 points): 4 games left vs Beach, Legends, Blues and SD Surf: My guess is 0 points (W0-L0-D0): Total 16 points.
11. Breakers (17 points): 3 games left vs Legends SD, LAFC and Arizona Arsenal: My guess is 6 points (W2-L1-D0): Total 23 points.

Playoffs:
1. HBK
2. Surf
3. Legends
4. Beach
5. LAFC
6. Blues
7. Pats
8. Heat Surf
9. Breakers
10. Slammers
11. Rebels

Just my humble opinion...

I have pats earning 1 point putting them at 22 points on the season. Last time they played SD Legends, Pats lost 1-2. I think this game ends as a tie unless pats offense figures out how to turn to goal and take more shots on frame.

I agree with the rest of your predictions, pretty spot on.

 

[Culer]

I have pats earning 1 point putting them at 22 points on the season. Last time they played SD Legends, Pats lost 1-2. I think this game ends as a tie unless pats offense figures out how to turn to goal and take more shots on frame.

I agree with the rest of your predictions, pretty spot on.

I do wonder if Pats coach will remain with the 2010 team next season. He's done the same thing in the past where he picks up players midseason and changes the dynamic and chemistry of the team. They were doing well and now winless in 6 straight games and most likely extend to 8 in the next couple of games.

 

[HE>I]

I do wonder if Pats coach will remain with the 2010 team next season. He's done the same thing in the past where he picks up players midseason and changes the dynamic and chemistry of the team. They were doing well and now winless in 6 straight games and most likely extend to 8 in the nex

I do wonder if Pats coach will remain with the 2010 team next season. He's done the same thing in the past where he picks up players midseason and changes the dynamic and chemistry of the team. They were doing well and now winless in 6 straight games and most likely extend to 8 in the next couple of games.

MM has done the same thing every season. They start well, he adds and cuts players at the break and they completely fall off. Maybe the second half of their schedule has been tougher every year I don’t know, but it’s time for that team to move on to a new voice in my opinion. I was very surprised to hear he is keeping them for a 4th straight year. Nothing official has been announced so we will see but that’s what I’ve heard.

 

[jimmys]

MM has done the same thing every season. They start well, he adds and cuts players at the break and they completely fall off. Maybe the second half of their schedule has been tougher every year I don’t know, but it’s time for that team to move on to a new voice in my opinion. I was very surprised to hear he is keeping them for a 4th straight year. Nothing official has been announced so we will see but that’s what I’ve heard.

Are you guys talking about the pats NL team? Didn’t the Pats ‘10 NL team win only a single game just 2 years ago and as of today sits in 5th place?

 

[Culer]

Are you guys talking about the pats NL team? Didn’t the Pats ‘10 NL team win only a single game just 2 years ago and as of today sits in 5th place?

Yes. The same MM coach that adds players mid-season and messes up the team dynamic/chemistry 2H of the season, similar to last year and happening again this year... with better talent each year.

 

[jimmys]

Yes. The same MM coach that adds players mid-season and messes up the team dynamic/chemistry 2H of the season, similar to last year and happening again this year... with better talent each year.

Got it. Wanted to make sure we are talking the same team. Unless all the girls hate each other and are ready to quit soccer, going from the cellar winning just 1 game in 23 only 2 years ago to 5th place with only 3 games left as of today to me says someone’s doing something right. Looks like they are 1-1-2 in league since the break with 3 to play. Will see how they finish. I agree team chemistry is super important but if adding players throughout the year ruins chemistry then there isn’t a single team in this league with chemistry. Player movement at any time should be expected at the ecnl level. It is a tough pill for parents to swallow though.

 

[Culer]

Got it. Wanted to make sure we are talking the same team. Unless all the girls hate each other and are ready to quit soccer, going from the cellar winning just 1 game in 23 only 2 years ago to 5th place with only 3 games left as of today to me says someone’s doing something right. Looks like they are 1-1-2 in league since the break with 3 to play. Will see how they finish. I agree team chemistry is super important but if adding players throughout the year ruins chemistry then there isn’t a single team in this league with chemistry. Player movement at any time should be expected at the ecnl level. It is a tough pill for parents to swallow though.

I get your point but season performance is based on current result. They are temporarily on 5th with big games ahead. Yes, adding players is part of the grueling season for every team, and sometimes successful if the message is done and delivered correctly. Definitely tough pill for some players/parents when roster is at 20.

 

[4kidssake]

On paper Pats are a top 5 club. But on the field it's been a whole different story. 0-1-2 at the PHX showcase -1 goal differential
0-0 showing against Sporting. With some big pick-ups after the bk...looks like there's going to be a lot of scoreboard watching the next few wks. That should make it fun!

 

[Culer]

On paper Pats are a top 5 club. But on the field it's been a whole different story. 0-1-2 at the PHX showcase -1 goal differential
0-0 showing against Sporting. With some big pick-ups after the bk...looks like there's going to be a lot of scoreboard watching the next few wks. That should make it fun!

Agree. On paper, they have better talent compared to previous years.

 

[jimmys]

I get your point but season performance is based on current result. They are temporarily on 5th with big games ahead. Yes, adding players is part of the grueling season for every team, and sometimes successful if the message is done and delivered correctly. Definitely tough pill for some players/parents when roster is at 20.

I just looked and see 21 names on that roster! I don’t know what they started the season with or if some of those players have left the team or had season ending injuries, but if he’s gone beyond 18 and kids aren’t dressing every week (especially kids who’ve been there all season) that’s just wrong and would be a chemistry killer no doubt. To me it makes sense at the oldest 2 age groups to maybe go beyond 18 but not till then. If you get in a pinch pull up an RL player or two.

 

[TeamDadJokes]

I just looked and see 21 names on that roster! I don’t know what they started the season with or if some of those players have left the team or had season ending injuries, but if he’s gone beyond 18 and kids aren’t dressing every week (especially kids who’ve been there all season) that’s just wrong and would be a chemistry killer no doubt. To me it makes sense at the oldest 2 age groups to maybe go beyond 18 but not till then. If you get in a pinch pull up an RL player or two.

What I was told was no one was cut, but instead were offered different playing options such as getting minutes with the 08 or 2010 RL teams and continuing practice with the NL team, but essentially, not dressing for NL games.

I take it most of those parents weren’t happy with those offers and I’m not sure what each of them decided to do after being presented with that option.

I’m not aware of any season ending injuries but I am aware of one player who got hurt and essentially was given above offer who didn’t return to the team. Another returned from ACL surgery and is trying to work their way into rotation playing with RLs.

 

[Lemmon Pepper Lou]

I just looked and see 21 names on that roster! I don’t know what they started the season with or if some of those players have left the team or had season ending injuries, but if he’s gone beyond 18 and kids aren’t dressing every week (especially kids who’ve been there all season) that’s just wrong and would be a chemistry killer no doubt. To me it makes sense at the oldest 2 age groups to maybe go beyond 18 but not till then. If you get in a pinch pull up an RL player or two.

If its not a top 5 program in the nation and you have a roster over 18 - ITS A RED FLAG. Starters need to develop on the field and log minutes to advance playing the top competition. You cant get better on the bench and you cant get better playing against the bottom half of a team at practice who's scratching for 5-10 minutes of playing time. A teams better off cutting the dead weight but most of these clubs care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ instead of development so why not make ECNL rosters a minimum of 25 and start handing out participation awards so everyone feels better at the end of the season?

Here is my list of 2025-2026 Transparent ECNL Fee's if you want your kid to go D1. This is straight from rainbow road so my time may be limited after posting this. If its my last post for a bit ill be on the run. Understand , these poor clubs only get the enrolment.

$7500 - Enrolment to the Club. (25x$7500 = $187,500 per team) but you get a full uniform kit and deformed NIKE Soccer ball
$5000 - Starter Fee (pay to plays the name of the game here)
$3500 - Bench Player Fee
$10000 - Susy needs to play the entire game Fee
$20000 - My kid sucks but my ego needs them to be on this team and play Fee
$500 - My kid takes the PK Fee (This ones per game)
$250 - Free Kick Fee (Another one per game but one bad kick and its $500 next time)
$2500 - ODP Nomination Fee (imaging the water cooler clout for such a prestigious nomination)
$5000 - YNT ID Camp (This fee goes directly to the DOC and can only be in cash - cash app not accepted)
$10000 - Team Manager Fee (bargain for those who want a little more control.)
$200 - Privates with the coach (This is per hour and not limited to player participation only - moms love this one)
$3000 - The club will hire 3 randoms at $1000 each for the weekend to sit in a white chair to watch U13 ECNL games
$5000 - Team party host Fee. (nothing flexes the bank account more than showing off your house to the brass)
$1000 - Coaches contact information fee on recruiting video

** These fees can be higher in Orange and Sandiego Counties and are subject to possible credit monitoring. Home equity is required by the clubs incase a players resources cant keep up with the Jonses. At times, a second or a third mortgage could or will be necessary throughout the season. Under a clubs discretion any team can request a new coach for any reason at anytime with a unanimous vote. Every vote will cost $5000 and will be pooled and delivered to the DOC in form of cashiers check made out to "CASH". The proceeds for the fund raiser will go as a welcoming and parting gift for the old coach who will now take over the youngest team for their level of experience. A DOC is subject to receive 35% of all team fees collected over the season and is not limited to receiving a fully paid 24 month BMW lease per new player added to the roster after 12/15. There's a 7 car limit on this one due to only having 7 days a week. Afterall we want coaches to work less for their money and not harder. Development is only a term used to get your money. Fake English accents may and will be used to fool you into believing your kid is good when its really just about the money.
***Please see club director directly for current monthly specials and private training opportunities. Bribes are expected and players are required to pay if they want to play.

 

[crush]

If its not a top 5 program in the nation and you have a roster over 18 - ITS A RED FLAG. Starters need to develop on the field and log minutes to advance playing the top competition. You cant get better on the bench and you cant get better playing against the bottom half of a team at practice who's scratching for 5-10 minutes of playing time. A teams better off cutting the dead weight but most of these clubs care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ instead of development so why not make ECNL rosters a minimum of 25 and start handing out participation awards so everyone feels better at the end of the season?

Here is my list of 2025-2026 Transparent ECNL Fee's if you want your kid to go D1. This is straight from rainbow road so my time may be limited after posting this. If its my last post for a bit ill be on the run. Understand , these poor clubs only get the enrolment.

$7500 - Enrolment to the Club. (25x$7500 = $187,500 per team) but you get a full uniform kit and deformed NIKE Soccer ball
$5000 - Starter Fee (pay to plays the name of the game here)
$3500 - Bench Player Fee
$10000 - Susy needs to play the entire game Fee
$20000 - My kid sucks but my ego needs them to be on this team and play Fee
$500 - My kid takes the PK Fee (This ones per game)
$250 - Free Kick Fee (Another one per game but one bad kick and its $500 next time)
$2500 - ODP Nomination Fee (imaging the water cooler clout for such a prestigious nomination)
$5000 - YNT ID Camp (This fee goes directly to the DOC and can only be in cash - cash app not accepted)
$10000 - Team Manager Fee (bargain for those who want a little more control.)
$200 - Privates with the coach (This is per hour and not limited to player participation only - moms love this one)
$3000 - The club will hire 3 randoms at $1000 each for the weekend to sit in a white chair to watch U13 ECNL games
$5000 - Team party host Fee. (nothing flexes the bank account more than showing off your house to the brass)
$1000 - Coaches contact information fee on recruiting video

** These fees can be higher in Orange and Sandiego Counties and are subject to possible credit monitoring. Home equity is required by the clubs incase a players resources cant keep up with the Jonses. At times, a second or a third mortgage could or will be necessary throughout the season. Under a clubs discretion any team can request a new coach for any reason at anytime with a unanimous vote. Every vote will cost $5000 and will be pooled and delivered to the DOC in form of cashiers check made out to "CASH". The proceeds for the fund raiser will go as a welcoming and parting gift for the old coach who will now take over the youngest team for their level of experience. A DOC is subject to receive 35% of all team fees collected over the season and is not limited to receiving a fully paid 24 month BMW lease per new player added to the roster after 12/15. There's a 7 car limit on this one due to only having 7 days a week. Afterall we want coaches to work less for their money and not harder. Development is only a term used to get your money. Fake English accents may and will be used to fool you into believing your kid is good when its really just about the money.
***Please see club director directly for current monthly specials and private training opportunities. Bribes are expected and players are required to pay if they want to play.

A La Cart now?

 

[4kidssake]

If its not a top 5 program in the nation and you have a roster over 18 - ITS A RED FLAG. Starters need to develop on the field and log minutes to advance playing the top competition. You cant get better on the bench and you cant get better playing against the bottom half of a team at practice who's scratching for 5-10 minutes of playing time. A teams better off cutting the dead weight but most of these clubs care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ instead of development so why not make ECNL rosters a minimum of 25 and start handing out participation awards so everyone feels better at the end of the season?

Here is my list of 2025-2026 Transparent ECNL Fee's if you want your kid to go D1. This is straight from rainbow road so my time may be limited after posting this. If its my last post for a bit ill be on the run. Understand , these poor clubs only get the enrolment.

$7500 - Enrolment to the Club. (25x$7500 = $187,500 per team) but you get a full uniform kit and deformed NIKE Soccer ball
$5000 - Starter Fee (pay to plays the name of the game here)
$3500 - Bench Player Fee
$10000 - Susy needs to play the entire game Fee
$20000 - My kid sucks but my ego needs them to be on this team and play Fee
$500 - My kid takes the PK Fee (This ones per game)
$250 - Free Kick Fee (Another one per game but one bad kick and its $500 next time)
$2500 - ODP Nomination Fee (imaging the water cooler clout for such a prestigious nomination)
$5000 - YNT ID Camp (This fee goes directly to the DOC and can only be in cash - cash app not accepted)
$10000 - Team Manager Fee (bargain for those who want a little more control.)
$200 - Privates with the coach (This is per hour and not limited to player participation only - moms love this one)
$3000 - The club will hire 3 randoms at $1000 each for the weekend to sit in a white chair to watch U13 ECNL games
$5000 - Team party host Fee. (nothing flexes the bank account more than showing off your house to the brass)
$1000 - Coaches contact information fee on recruiting video

** These fees can be higher in Orange and Sandiego Counties and are subject to possible credit monitoring. Home equity is required by the clubs incase a players resources cant keep up with the Jonses. At times, a second or a third mortgage could or will be necessary throughout the season. Under a clubs discretion any team can request a new coach for any reason at anytime with a unanimous vote. Every vote will cost $5000 and will be pooled and delivered to the DOC in form of cashiers check made out to "CASH". The proceeds for the fund raiser will go as a welcoming and parting gift for the old coach who will now take over the youngest team for their level of experience. A DOC is subject to receive 35% of all team fees collected over the season and is not limited to receiving a fully paid 24 month BMW lease per new player added to the roster after 12/15. There's a 7 car limit on this one due to only having 7 days a week. Afterall we want coaches to work less for their money and not harder. Development is only a term used to get your money. Fake English accents may and will be used to fool you into believing your kid is good when its really just about the money.
***Please see club director directly for current monthly specials and private training opportunities. Bribes are expected and players are required to pay if they want to play.

 

[4kidssake]

If its not a top 5 program in the nation and you have a roster over 18 - ITS A RED FLAG. Starters need to develop on the field and log minutes to advance playing the top competition. You cant get better on the bench and you cant get better playing against the bottom half of a team at practice who's scratching for 5-10 minutes of playing time. A teams better off cutting the dead weight but most of these clubs care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ instead of development so why not make ECNL rosters a minimum of 25 and start handing out participation awards so everyone feels better at the end of the season?

Here is my list of 2025-2026 Transparent ECNL Fee's if you want your kid to go D1. This is straight from rainbow road so my time may be limited after posting this. If its my last post for a bit ill be on the run. Understand , these poor clubs only get the enrolment.

$7500 - Enrolment to the Club. (25x$7500 = $187,500 per team) but you get a full uniform kit and deformed NIKE Soccer ball
$5000 - Starter Fee (pay to plays the name of the game here)
$3500 - Bench Player Fee
$10000 - Susy needs to play the entire game Fee
$20000 - My kid sucks but my ego needs them to be on this team and play Fee
$500 - My kid takes the PK Fee (This ones per game)
$250 - Free Kick Fee (Another one per game but one bad kick and its $500 next time)
$2500 - ODP Nomination Fee (imaging the water cooler clout for such a prestigious nomination)
$5000 - YNT ID Camp (This fee goes directly to the DOC and can only be in cash - cash app not accepted)
$10000 - Team Manager Fee (bargain for those who want a little more control.)
$200 - Privates with the coach (This is per hour and not limited to player participation only - moms love this one)
$3000 - The club will hire 3 randoms at $1000 each for the weekend to sit in a white chair to watch U13 ECNL games
$5000 - Team party host Fee. (nothing flexes the bank account more than showing off your house to the brass)
$1000 - Coaches contact information fee on recruiting video

** These fees can be higher in Orange and Sandiego Counties and are subject to possible credit monitoring. Home equity is required by the clubs incase a players resources cant keep up with the Jonses. At times, a second or a third mortgage could or will be necessary throughout the season. Under a clubs discretion any team can request a new coach for any reason at anytime with a unanimous vote. Every vote will cost $5000 and will be pooled and delivered to the DOC in form of cashiers check made out to "CASH". The proceeds for the fund raiser will go as a welcoming and parting gift for the old coach who will now take over the youngest team for their level of experience. A DOC is subject to receive 35% of all team fees collected over the season and is not limited to receiving a fully paid 24 month BMW lease per new player added to the roster after 12/15. There's a 7 car limit on this one due to only having 7 days a week. Afterall we want coaches to work less for their money and not harder. Development is only a term used to get your money. Fake English accents may and will be used to fool you into believing your kid is good when its really just about the money.
***Please see club director directly for current monthly specials and private training opportunities. Bribes are expected and players are required to pay if they want to play.

Nice list....you just forgot how much $$$ for the ...ECNL patch???

 

[Lemmon Pepper Lou]

Nice list....you just forgot how much $$$ for the ...ECNL patch???

You cant buy the patch. It must be earned - by backstabbing "friends" from the grass root levels and bribing coaches. One must sit at the big table to receive the all mighty patch.

 

[crush]

You cant buy the patch. It must be earned - by backstabbing "friends" from the grass root levels and bribing coaches. One must sit at the big table to receive the all mighty patch.

 

[futboldad1]

Let’s get back on topic geez….Rebels 1 Beach 1 yesterday was an interesting one

 

[Lemmon Pepper Lou]

Let’s get back on topic geez….Rebels 1 Beach 1 yesterday was an interesting one

What do you mean get back on topic? You cant fix the current state of soccer without first exposing and eliminating the corruption. People cant be that blind on why the US keeps falling further and further behind in the sport.