How’s the 2024-2025 season going?

If its not a top 5 program in the nation and you have a roster over 18 - ITS A RED FLAG. Starters need to develop on the field and log minutes to advance playing the top competition. You cant get better on the bench and you cant get better playing against the bottom half of a team at practice who's scratching for 5-10 minutes of playing time. A teams better off cutting the dead weight but most of these clubs care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ instead of development so why not make ECNL rosters a minimum of 25 and start handing out participation awards so everyone feels better at the end of the season?

Here is my list of 2025-2026 Transparent ECNL Fee's if you want your kid to go D1. This is straight from rainbow road so my time may be limited after posting this. If its my last post for a bit ill be on the run. Understand , these poor clubs only get the enrolment.

$7500 - Enrolment to the Club. (25x$7500 = $187,500 per team) but you get a full uniform kit and deformed NIKE Soccer ball
$5000 - Starter Fee (pay to plays the name of the game here)
$3500 - Bench Player Fee
$10000 - Susy needs to play the entire game Fee
$20000 - My kid sucks but my ego needs them to be on this team and play Fee
$500 - My kid takes the PK Fee (This ones per game)
$250 - Free Kick Fee (Another one per game but one bad kick and its $500 next time)
$2500 - ODP Nomination Fee (imaging the water cooler clout for such a prestigious nomination)
$5000 - YNT ID Camp (This fee goes directly to the DOC and can only be in cash - cash app not accepted)
$10000 - Team Manager Fee (bargain for those who want a little more control.)
$200 - Privates with the coach (This is per hour and not limited to player participation only - moms love this one)
$3000 - The club will hire 3 randoms at $1000 each for the weekend to sit in a white chair to watch U13 ECNL games
$5000 - Team party host Fee. (nothing flexes the bank account more than showing off your house to the brass)
$1000 - Coaches contact information fee on recruiting video

** These fees can be higher in Orange and Sandiego Counties and are subject to possible credit monitoring. Home equity is required by the clubs incase a players resources cant keep up with the Jonses. At times, a second or a third mortgage could or will be necessary throughout the season. Under a clubs discretion any team can request a new coach for any reason at anytime with a unanimous vote. Every vote will cost $5000 and will be pooled and delivered to the DOC in form of cashiers check made out to "CASH". The proceeds for the fund raiser will go as a welcoming and parting gift for the old coach who will now take over the youngest team for their level of experience. A DOC is subject to receive 35% of all team fees collected over the season and is not limited to receiving a fully paid 24 month BMW lease per new player added to the roster after 12/15. There's a 7 car limit on this one due to only having 7 days a week. Afterall we want coaches to work less for their money and not harder. Development is only a term used to get your money. Fake English accents may and will be used to fool you into believing your kid is good when its really just about the money.
***Please see club director directly for current monthly specials and private training opportunities. Bribes are expected and players are required to pay if they want to play.
A La Cart now?
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If its not a top 5 program in the nation and you have a roster over 18 - ITS A RED FLAG. Starters need to develop on the field and log minutes to advance playing the top competition. You cant get better on the bench and you cant get better playing against the bottom half of a team at practice who's scratching for 5-10 minutes of playing time. A teams better off cutting the dead weight but most of these clubs care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ instead of development so why not make ECNL rosters a minimum of 25 and start handing out participation awards so everyone feels better at the end of the season?

Here is my list of 2025-2026 Transparent ECNL Fee's if you want your kid to go D1. This is straight from rainbow road so my time may be limited after posting this. If its my last post for a bit ill be on the run. Understand , these poor clubs only get the enrolment.

$7500 - Enrolment to the Club. (25x$7500 = $187,500 per team) but you get a full uniform kit and deformed NIKE Soccer ball
$5000 - Starter Fee (pay to plays the name of the game here)
$3500 - Bench Player Fee
$10000 - Susy needs to play the entire game Fee
$20000 - My kid sucks but my ego needs them to be on this team and play Fee
$500 - My kid takes the PK Fee (This ones per game)
$250 - Free Kick Fee (Another one per game but one bad kick and its $500 next time)
$2500 - ODP Nomination Fee (imaging the water cooler clout for such a prestigious nomination)
$5000 - YNT ID Camp (This fee goes directly to the DOC and can only be in cash - cash app not accepted)
$10000 - Team Manager Fee (bargain for those who want a little more control.)
$200 - Privates with the coach (This is per hour and not limited to player participation only - moms love this one)
$3000 - The club will hire 3 randoms at $1000 each for the weekend to sit in a white chair to watch U13 ECNL games
$5000 - Team party host Fee. (nothing flexes the bank account more than showing off your house to the brass)
$1000 - Coaches contact information fee on recruiting video

** These fees can be higher in Orange and Sandiego Counties and are subject to possible credit monitoring. Home equity is required by the clubs incase a players resources cant keep up with the Jonses. At times, a second or a third mortgage could or will be necessary throughout the season. Under a clubs discretion any team can request a new coach for any reason at anytime with a unanimous vote. Every vote will cost $5000 and will be pooled and delivered to the DOC in form of cashiers check made out to "CASH". The proceeds for the fund raiser will go as a welcoming and parting gift for the old coach who will now take over the youngest team for their level of experience. A DOC is subject to receive 35% of all team fees collected over the season and is not limited to receiving a fully paid 24 month BMW lease per new player added to the roster after 12/15. There's a 7 car limit on this one due to only having 7 days a week. Afterall we want coaches to work less for their money and not harder. Development is only a term used to get your money. Fake English accents may and will be used to fool you into believing your kid is good when its really just about the money.
***Please see club director directly for current monthly specials and private training opportunities. Bribes are expected and players are required to pay if they want to play.
 
If its not a top 5 program in the nation and you have a roster over 18 - ITS A RED FLAG. Starters need to develop on the field and log minutes to advance playing the top competition. You cant get better on the bench and you cant get better playing against the bottom half of a team at practice who's scratching for 5-10 minutes of playing time. A teams better off cutting the dead weight but most of these clubs care about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ instead of development so why not make ECNL rosters a minimum of 25 and start handing out participation awards so everyone feels better at the end of the season?

Here is my list of 2025-2026 Transparent ECNL Fee's if you want your kid to go D1. This is straight from rainbow road so my time may be limited after posting this. If its my last post for a bit ill be on the run. Understand , these poor clubs only get the enrolment.

$7500 - Enrolment to the Club. (25x$7500 = $187,500 per team) but you get a full uniform kit and deformed NIKE Soccer ball
$5000 - Starter Fee (pay to plays the name of the game here)
$3500 - Bench Player Fee
$10000 - Susy needs to play the entire game Fee
$20000 - My kid sucks but my ego needs them to be on this team and play Fee
$500 - My kid takes the PK Fee (This ones per game)
$250 - Free Kick Fee (Another one per game but one bad kick and its $500 next time)
$2500 - ODP Nomination Fee (imaging the water cooler clout for such a prestigious nomination)
$5000 - YNT ID Camp (This fee goes directly to the DOC and can only be in cash - cash app not accepted)
$10000 - Team Manager Fee (bargain for those who want a little more control.)
$200 - Privates with the coach (This is per hour and not limited to player participation only - moms love this one)
$3000 - The club will hire 3 randoms at $1000 each for the weekend to sit in a white chair to watch U13 ECNL games
$5000 - Team party host Fee. (nothing flexes the bank account more than showing off your house to the brass)
$1000 - Coaches contact information fee on recruiting video

** These fees can be higher in Orange and Sandiego Counties and are subject to possible credit monitoring. Home equity is required by the clubs incase a players resources cant keep up with the Jonses. At times, a second or a third mortgage could or will be necessary throughout the season. Under a clubs discretion any team can request a new coach for any reason at anytime with a unanimous vote. Every vote will cost $5000 and will be pooled and delivered to the DOC in form of cashiers check made out to "CASH". The proceeds for the fund raiser will go as a welcoming and parting gift for the old coach who will now take over the youngest team for their level of experience. A DOC is subject to receive 35% of all team fees collected over the season and is not limited to receiving a fully paid 24 month BMW lease per new player added to the roster after 12/15. There's a 7 car limit on this one due to only having 7 days a week. Afterall we want coaches to work less for their money and not harder. Development is only a term used to get your money. Fake English accents may and will be used to fool you into believing your kid is good when its really just about the money.
***Please see club director directly for current monthly specials and private training opportunities. Bribes are expected and players are required to pay if they want to play.
Nice list....you just forgot how much $$$ for the ...ECNL patch???
 
Let’s get back on topic geez….Rebels 1 Beach 1 yesterday was an interesting one 🧐
What do you mean get back on topic? You cant fix the current state of soccer without first exposing and eliminating the corruption. People cant be that blind on why the US keeps falling further and further behind in the sport.
 
How about we talk about Tryout Week for ECNL!!! Or... the formality of ECNL tryouts so the clubs can officially say they held tryouts:)

It's a real tryout. Just not for the top team.

If a unicorn went to a big tryout, the club would find the parents and get the kid sorted to the right spot. It just rarely happens, since most kids aren't unicorns, and most unicorns no longer go to tryouts.
 
It's a real tryout. Just not for the top team.

If a unicorn went to a big tryout, the club would find the parents and get the kid sorted to the right spot. It just rarely happens, since most kids aren't unicorns, and most unicorns no longer go to tryouts.
100%, More like tryouts for RL, and RL2.
 
Not a loaded question but does anyone believe there is a glass ceiling for top RL players to get to a legit NL team?
Facing that situation with my daughter.
Absolutely there is. It’s like any job that you want to have a supervisor role in, you have to apply outside to be considered as a legitimate candidate because clubs don’t promote from within. But that being said, I know of 4 clubs who have promoted from the RL team to NL from the 2010 age group from within the same club (2 from Sporting, 3 from Slammers FC, 2 from Legends, 1 from Blues). Everyone else who made the jump had to switch clubs.
 
Absolutely there is. It’s like any job that you want to have a supervisor role in, you have to apply outside to be considered as a legitimate candidate because clubs don’t promote from within. But that being said, I know of 4 clubs who have promoted from the RL team to NL from the 2010 age group from within the same club (2 from Sporting, 3 from Slammers FC, 2 from Legends, 1 from Blues). Everyone else who made the jump had to switch clubs.
Clubs have a financial incentive to bring on a player from the outside if there's an equivalent player they can bring up from within. Also often coaches get bonuses for bringing on new players to the club.

The odds are stacked against 2nd team players from working their way up to the top team. However if you're looking to get noticed to get recruited for a top team it's much easier to shine on 2nd team.

This is why people reccommend going to all the different club tryouts + make connections in other clubs. Maybe your current club isn't interested but others might be. Also you can leverage a first team offer at another club to a first team spot on your current club.
 
Not a loaded question but does anyone believe there is a glass ceiling for top RL players to get to a legit NL team?
Facing that situation with my daughter.
Imo unless the team manager or coach invited you personally chances are you are not going to be noticed or be reached out too. 1) there's way to many bodies for coach to do a real observation. 2) your trying out with a bunch of non ecnl players. So opening up, passes, movement, awareness
May put you in bad situations and make you look bad bc of the players around you....
 
Not a loaded question but does anyone believe there is a glass ceiling for top RL players to get to a legit NL team?
Facing that situation with my daughter.
No glass ceiling. Our NL team has a couple players who used to be RL. We also play against NL teams who recruited from our RL team. So it happens.

That said, it’s not easy. Even if she has the skills, she might have to accept a lower status club in order to make the jump.
 
Got it. Wanted to make sure we are talking the same team. Unless all the girls hate each other and are ready to quit soccer, going from the cellar winning just 1 game in 23 only 2 years ago to 5th place with only 3 games left as of today to me says someone’s doing something right. Looks like they are 1-1-2 in league since the break with 3 to play. Will see how they finish. I agree team chemistry is super important but if adding players throughout the year ruins chemistry then there isn’t a single team in this league with chemistry. Player movement at any time should be expected at the ecnl level. It is a tough pill for parents to swallow though.
Not convinced with MM’s coaching. Got whooped again today and will most likely get the same against Legends. Supposedly added more talent but doing worst. They’ll be lucky to get the 8th spot IMO.
 
Not convinced with MM’s coaching. Got whooped again today and will most likely get the same against Legends. Supposedly added more talent but doing worst. They’ll be lucky to get the 8th spot IMO.
Do you have a kid on this team? Seems like you have an axe to grind with Mr. MM. Kid cut? Not offered a spot next year? There were 6 2010 games this weekend. I know some of this game yesterday and I wouldn't say they where "whooped". It was 1-0 at half and Surf scored off a corner in the last minute of the first half. Eventually a defense is going to take chances if their offense can not get it done and perhaps that was what was going on here? Formation changes in the second half? Maybe it was MM? Don't know. Lets review some stats on what I can find though. Since the break Surf had played 6 league games. They have scored 33 goals and given up 1 and that was by Koge. I would say this team is a bit dialed in at the moment. They beat Slammers 6-0 and some would say Slammers have been on a roll since the break as that was their only loss in league since the break. I understand that Pats yes have added some pieces since the break but they are obviously still missing something. Looking at the stats again its painfully obvious they need scoring. They have not scored in their last 3 league games and their showcase was more of the same. It is a bit of a head scratcher since the break as they ended the first half of league only loosing to Koge 1-0 in a very well played game (game is on veo live on Koges page for anyone to view). It does seem like they are in a collision course with a low playoff seed but if they do make it in and they do figure out their scoring issues I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of clubs out there hoping they do not draw them in their group. Seems like a good opportunity in being in the tryout window for some hungry offensive girls to come out and turn the team around. I wonder if some of those Slammers RL girls that have been tearing it up were out there?
 
2 games left for most teams. Here's how I project the end of season standings:

RankingTeamGPGRMax PPGFGAGDPTSOpp 1Opp 2Opp 3Max PotentialTDJ Projected
1​
Surf
15​
1​
3​
58​
7​
51​
40​
Rebels
43​
43​
2​
Koge
14​
2​
6​
45​
6​
39​
38​
SportingLegends
44​
42​
3​
Legends
14​
2​
6​
40​
10​
30​
32​
PatsKoge
38​
36​
4​
Beach
14​
2​
6​
27​
14​
13​
25​
SlammersSporting
31​
29​
5​
Blues
14​
2​
6​
19​
20​
-1​
23​
RebelsHeat
29​
27​
6​
Heat
13​
3​
9​
26​
25​
1​
19​
SharksBluesPhoenix
28​
26​
7​
Breakers
14​
2​
6​
24​
23​
1​
20​
LAFCAz Arsenal
26​
26​
8​
Eagles
15​
1​
3​
19​
21​
-2​
21​
Az Arsenal
24​
24​
9​
Slammers
15​
1​
3​
32​
29​
3​
22​
Beach
25​
23​
10​
Pats
14​
2​
6​
22​
24​
-2​
21​
LegendsSharks
27​
22​
11​
LAFC
15​
1​
3​
18​
21​
-3​
22​
LA Breakers
25​
22​
12​
Rebels
14​
2​
6​
19​
23​
-4​
17​
BluesSurf
23​
17​
13​
Phoenix
14​
2​
6​
14​
25​
-11​
14​
Az ArsenalHeat
20​
17​
14​
SD Legends
14​
2​
6​
14​
30​
-16​
12​
HeatPats
18​
13​
 
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2 games left for most teams. Here's how I project the end of season standings:

RankingTeamGPGRMax PPGFGAGDPTSOpp 1Opp 2Opp 3Max PotentialTDJ Projected
1​
Surf
15​
1​
3​
58​
7​
51​
40​
Rebels
43​
43​
2​
Koge
14​
2​
6​
45​
6​
39​
38​
SportingLegends
44​
42​
3​
Legends
14​
2​
6​
40​
10​
30​
32​
PatsKoge
38​
36​
4​
Beach
14​
2​
6​
27​
14​
13​
25​
SlammersSporting
31​
29​
5​
Blues
14​
2​
6​
19​
20​
-1​
23​
RebelsHeat
29​
27​
6​
Heat
13​
3​
9​
26​
25​
1​
19​
SharksBluesPhoenix
28​
26​
7​
Breakers
14​
2​
6​
24​
23​
1​
20​
LAFCAz Arsenal
26​
26​
8​
Eagles
15​
1​
3​
19​
21​
-2​
21​
Az Arsenal
24​
24​
9​
Slammers
15​
1​
3​
32​
29​
3​
22​
Beach
25​
23​
10​
Pats
14​
2​
6​
22​
24​
-2​
21​
LegendsSharks
27​
22​
11​
LAFC
15​
1​
3​
18​
21​
-3​
22​
LA Breakers
25​
22​
12​
Rebels
14​
2​
6​
19​
23​
-4​
17​
BluesSurf
23​
17​
13​
Phoenix
14​
2​
6​
14​
25​
-11​
14​
Az ArsenalHeat
20​
17​
14​
SD Legends
14​
2​
6​
14​
30​
-16​
12​
HeatPats
18​
13​
Looks like you have Pats tying sharks so if that’s the case they shouldn’t go. I have them winning that game and tying eagles and taking the head to head tie breaker for the 8th spot. Going to be a wild ride for all!!!
 
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