PurpleCrush
BRONZE
Yes and no. Teams can choose what they want to do, although your current club may not allow for that decision, there is always another club that is more than willing to take your team and allow them to come over together.
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Yes and no. Teams can choose what they want to do, although your current club may not allow for that decision, there is always another club that is more than willing to take your team and allow them to come over together.
PurpleCrush
BRONZE
Also in addition to this, I do agree band-aid will be ripped off quickly -- SOCAL clubs are all subject to tryout guidelines and now that will be impacted.
Posing rumors as if they were true before different leagues made a statement?
You don't see how that's an issue?
People were/are trying to use rumors to sway opinion.
Also the AYSO USYS and US Club statement doesn't mean BY to SY is in the bag. It does mean that if given the choice they would prefer isn't made by US Soccer that they could leave US Soccer and control 80% of youth players.
It will depend on the level of the team/club.
If the club is already socially focused, the values are just different. Kids are there to be with their friends. Take away the friends, and you no longer have a team. That makes keeping teams together a higher priority. Double that for clubs in rural areas.
For a high end comp team? They’ll move you where they need you. Don’t bother complaining about it.
whatithink
GOLD
Sure, but you need everyone on board, and you need another club willing to accept your entire team. At lower levels that may work, as you are just cash to the club. At the top level, you are shit out of luck. No ECNL club will be dictated to by a bunch of parents. There are also winners and losers, so your starters are committed, but the rest, maybe not so much so. If the non-starters are on the younger side and will now probably be starters in the new grouping, they are gone.
RandomSoccerFan
GOLD
You were the one saying that they were saying they were posting the rumor as true. Not them. You don't see how that's an issue? See: self-awareness.
Sure - but that seems pretty unlikely.
Rollonyoubears
BRONZE
US Club Soccer sent out an email to coaches and staff today of our club stating that the next US Board of Directors meeting is on 11/22 and they anticipate this decision to be on the agenda, with a formal and public decision by the end of the calendar year.
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I literally gave up on not posting rumors and went with the crowd because it didn't seem like people wanted confirmed info. Also it seemed like leagues were leaking info purposefully.
I agree that US Soccer is highly unlikely to not approve switching from BY to SY. When groups that represent 80% of the player pool want something they're probabaly going to get it.
I'm happy that leaders from the different groups made a statement so everyone can make plans and move on.
PurpleCrush
BRONZE
Oh correct.
ECNL and that level, you’re at the mercy of the club. My response was more geared to that of SOCAL teams.
I think the other aspect is this gives a lot of players and families a chance to hit the escape button. So many players are worried about leaving a coach and how to go about it, some are about to find that reason.
whatithink
GOLD
For sure, and it also allows clubs to hit the coach reset button (saw this last time also), whereby they move them around and remove that parent/coach attachment, which makes it easier for the clubs to manage the change. At the end of the day, the clubs/coaches will just say "hate it too", "not my decision", "we're with you but ..." and then make the changes as otherwise they have to deal with it for multiple years and that really makes no sense from a club perspective tbh.
Rollonyoubears
BRONZE
I've heard from multiple people that it is going to get approved. The real question is which clubs will allow current teams to stick together with kids "playing up" or explode them. It will definitely affect my son's 2016 team, who is 50/50 with the new cutoff.
RandomSoccerFan
GOLD
I can't imagine many clubs would ignore the opportunity to set teams at the new cut-offs, and instead choose to play up as a matter of course. Set up new teams with the new age ranges, and then see what things look like for existing rosters as applied to the new rules. In some cases, the team makeup might not change much at all. In others, there may be huge changes. All of this is tied to both the birthdays of the team members, and where each individual sits on the sliding scale of suitability/desire to play up or not.
I heard from multiple sources as well.
However, you can see that GA and DPL aren't excited for the change which is why DPL made the statement that they will align with whatever decision US Soccer makes. Which is another way of saying that they dont want to switch from BY but dont feel strongly enough about it to fight against the change.
Ironically as of last Wednesday several high level Coaches and DOCs were not aware of whats going on. I'm sure this has all changed now that official statements have been made and communicated to club leaders.
TheMountie
BRONZE
"rumors"
Clubs have already started communication with parents about the change. There's no way they would have done this if there were still any doubt.
Rollonyoubears
BRONZE
Oops, late to the party with the email from US Club Soccer... My bad
The coaches and DOCs that I speak with with had no clue. They are all focused on their current team.
I'm sure this is all changing rapidly and potential trapped players are being identified.
Rollonyoubears
BRONZE
This is our scenario, and my opinion on the matter would be very different if my son was in his teens. A few of our younger 2016 boys are in the top half of skill on our team. 3 of them are in the top 4 of goal scorers and one is a great centerback. Playing down will benefit them from some folk's perspective, but is that really the case? Sure, they will be able to dominate in theory as the older half of the age group next year, but what's better for long term development? I've always been of the opinion that if my son is the best player on the team, then it's likely not the team we want to be on. I want him to play with better kids. He's an early year birthday and a top player, so at the end of the day i'm good with the change, but I REALLY don't want to break this team up becasue we love our coach and the parent group is good.
RandomSoccerFan
GOLD
US Soccer thought it would be an improvement in the development and recruiting of soccer talent in the US (all the way up to USMNT, USWNT). Alignment with how FIFA and much of the rest of the world does it (birth year), seemed to make sense. Since then, it seems that in their view the improvements they had hoped for didn't pan out.
I wonder if this change will drive some players to quit soccer. Specifically, for the players that fall into the following: Jan-Jul bday, bottom-end starter or bench player.
After the change, there will be a group of older Aug-Dec joining the team. Where will the Jan-Jul bottom-end player go? They can't drop down to the next year like the trapped players. Only options are to club-hop, drop to a lower level team (ENCL to ECRL, flight 1 to flight 2, etc.), or quit soccer. Club-hopping might not be a viable option as most teams will likely be going through this.
There's probably a handful or so players in this group on each team. End of they day, I think this change will really hurt this group of players.
After the change, there will be a group of older Aug-Dec joining the team. Where will the Jan-Jul bottom-end player go? They can't drop down to the next year like the trapped players. Only options are to club-hop, drop to a lower level team (ENCL to ECRL, flight 1 to flight 2, etc.), or quit soccer. Club-hopping might not be a viable option as most teams will likely be going through this.
There's probably a handful or so players in this group on each team. End of they day, I think this change will really hurt this group of players.